SwissIndo : The Scam exposed
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SwissIndo : The Scam exposed
SwissIndo : The Scam Exposed
These two videos may "lay to rest" an apparent scam out of Indonesia.
This little scam has been popular amongst New Agers for many months, and especially those who fell for the OPPT scam last year. A few months ago, SI's Mr Sino began hovering up some of the more vocal OPPT supporters by offering them roles as "delegates" within his organization.
I understand they were promised $1.2 million each for their help. But no money was offered upfront, it was said to come: "sometime in the future." No one has yet seen any money - but S.I. did manage to pull off a sort of PR coup last month: a Global UN / SwissIndo conference - which proved to be a great photo opportunity.
I am not at all sure that the UN had even the awareness of this even, though it seem to be a prominent part of the branding, and in many of the photos. Those who attended the conference are still pumping out videos showing how wonderful it all was.
Mr Sino has claimed for over one year. that he controls some truly massive amounts. The impossibility of his money claims was addressed in a Video published on April 3rd:
Swiss-Indo : Where is Mr Sino's Money?
/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emHsHtqjTek /
Description:
Come on, dear people. I want positive change too. But I don't want to be overwhelmed by fantasy. Look into the facts. Run the numbers. And it is very obvious that Swiss-Indo does not have the money that it claims. Let's stick to reality, and move the world forward in truly positive ways.
The video has attracted over 240 views so far, and some interesting comments from all over the world. In fact, one of the comments from a poster in Indonesia led to a second video:
Swissindo: Foreign delegates, are they "window dressing"?
/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjV2fjVtoQM /
This one solves the Mystery of Swissindo - which is:
WHAT DOES MR SINO GAIN by promising to give away huge sums of money to people all around the world? As it turns out, the answer was found within Indonesia itself.
Here's an excerpt from a YT comment from a poster located within Indonesia:
"The (news) report says they are taking money from people selling promises that they will get huge amount in return. As far as I know, there is no money. Sino probably has managed to get some money, I honestly don't know. There is no news about him in local TVs nor newspapers that I know of. If he really is what he says he is, there should be headlines everywhere, eh?
The Soekarno treasure scam has been going on in Indonesia for years. That include things like burried gold, bank certificates (oh and Swiss is the favorite, of course), people claiming that they hold the "key" etc. There is always a mystical background because Indonesians believe in such things and Soekarno is to many, many Indonesians a mystical figure.
Many many people have lost their money, and believe it or not, including a couple of my friends with university degrees. It's not difficult to imagine that a whole bunch of people will easily fall for that. Alas, people are desperate. So sad."
And this is from the Video too - a comment from the Video's maker, Geologic:
"So there you have it:
An Indonesian, who can read the local papers is saying that Swissindo may be a scam. And they are reported to be taking money from people inside Indonesia - and promising huge returns. This would explain where Mr Sino got the money to stage the conference. And it would also explain why all the photos and youtube videos talking about Swissindo, are so very valuable to Mr Sino and his team.
They act as "bait" to catch some bigger fish. Perhaps the Indonesians think, if all these wealthy foreigners are flying in to attend conferences, and are putting up well-produced videos on Youtube, then maybe Mr Sino really has the big money that he claims to have. That's what the unfortunate dupes may be thinking.
There's a real irony here. People like Ron Van Dyke are claiming that they want to help the world. But instead, they may be making it easier for a clever con-artist to dupe his victims. How very sad this story may turn out."
Haha.
What was that scam in 1972-film The Sting called? 'The Big Carni' or something?
The idea was to create a show, an off-track illegal horse betting club, and make it look real. Then the punters would put up their money, expecting easy gains. But the game was rigged. And so before anyone could collect their gains, the phony scam fell apart.
Is that where Swissindo is headed?
A sad thing is that those being used as Window Dressing and the Dupes who are putting up the money are different people. So the dupes are being fooled by people with genuine intent. The obvious "good intentions" of so many of the foreign delegates makes the scam seem more believable to the real marks.
People need to learn to exercise better discernment. And they need to learn not to be used by greedy people who disguise their real intent, packaging them inside of impossible plans that claim they will help the people of the world.
These two videos may "lay to rest" an apparent scam out of Indonesia.
This little scam has been popular amongst New Agers for many months, and especially those who fell for the OPPT scam last year. A few months ago, SI's Mr Sino began hovering up some of the more vocal OPPT supporters by offering them roles as "delegates" within his organization.
I understand they were promised $1.2 million each for their help. But no money was offered upfront, it was said to come: "sometime in the future." No one has yet seen any money - but S.I. did manage to pull off a sort of PR coup last month: a Global UN / SwissIndo conference - which proved to be a great photo opportunity.
I am not at all sure that the UN had even the awareness of this even, though it seem to be a prominent part of the branding, and in many of the photos. Those who attended the conference are still pumping out videos showing how wonderful it all was.
Mr Sino has claimed for over one year. that he controls some truly massive amounts. The impossibility of his money claims was addressed in a Video published on April 3rd:
Swiss-Indo : Where is Mr Sino's Money?
/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emHsHtqjTek /
Description:
Come on, dear people. I want positive change too. But I don't want to be overwhelmed by fantasy. Look into the facts. Run the numbers. And it is very obvious that Swiss-Indo does not have the money that it claims. Let's stick to reality, and move the world forward in truly positive ways.
The video has attracted over 240 views so far, and some interesting comments from all over the world. In fact, one of the comments from a poster in Indonesia led to a second video:
Swissindo: Foreign delegates, are they "window dressing"?
/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjV2fjVtoQM /
This one solves the Mystery of Swissindo - which is:
WHAT DOES MR SINO GAIN by promising to give away huge sums of money to people all around the world? As it turns out, the answer was found within Indonesia itself.
Here's an excerpt from a YT comment from a poster located within Indonesia:
"The (news) report says they are taking money from people selling promises that they will get huge amount in return. As far as I know, there is no money. Sino probably has managed to get some money, I honestly don't know. There is no news about him in local TVs nor newspapers that I know of. If he really is what he says he is, there should be headlines everywhere, eh?
The Soekarno treasure scam has been going on in Indonesia for years. That include things like burried gold, bank certificates (oh and Swiss is the favorite, of course), people claiming that they hold the "key" etc. There is always a mystical background because Indonesians believe in such things and Soekarno is to many, many Indonesians a mystical figure.
Many many people have lost their money, and believe it or not, including a couple of my friends with university degrees. It's not difficult to imagine that a whole bunch of people will easily fall for that. Alas, people are desperate. So sad."
And this is from the Video too - a comment from the Video's maker, Geologic:
"So there you have it:
An Indonesian, who can read the local papers is saying that Swissindo may be a scam. And they are reported to be taking money from people inside Indonesia - and promising huge returns. This would explain where Mr Sino got the money to stage the conference. And it would also explain why all the photos and youtube videos talking about Swissindo, are so very valuable to Mr Sino and his team.
They act as "bait" to catch some bigger fish. Perhaps the Indonesians think, if all these wealthy foreigners are flying in to attend conferences, and are putting up well-produced videos on Youtube, then maybe Mr Sino really has the big money that he claims to have. That's what the unfortunate dupes may be thinking.
There's a real irony here. People like Ron Van Dyke are claiming that they want to help the world. But instead, they may be making it easier for a clever con-artist to dupe his victims. How very sad this story may turn out."
Haha.
What was that scam in 1972-film The Sting called? 'The Big Carni' or something?
The idea was to create a show, an off-track illegal horse betting club, and make it look real. Then the punters would put up their money, expecting easy gains. But the game was rigged. And so before anyone could collect their gains, the phony scam fell apart.
Is that where Swissindo is headed?
A sad thing is that those being used as Window Dressing and the Dupes who are putting up the money are different people. So the dupes are being fooled by people with genuine intent. The obvious "good intentions" of so many of the foreign delegates makes the scam seem more believable to the real marks.
People need to learn to exercise better discernment. And they need to learn not to be used by greedy people who disguise their real intent, packaging them inside of impossible plans that claim they will help the people of the world.
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Re: SwissIndo : The Scam exposed
POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK?
Neal Keenan is another fantasy-maker, who wants you to believe that there is 10X the official amount of gold on this planet (which belong to shadowy "Dragon families"), and that "collateral accounts" hold vast sums - money which is real, but does not somehow show up in the banking system.
Despite these "Fringe" views, he wants you to believe that his fantasies are somehow more real than those of SwissIndo. So here's an EXCERPT from his latest article - debunking S.I.:
The Swissindo cabal fraud is not at all difficult to unmask. The alleged signatory list in the Swissindo “Office Of Military Settlement” reads like a who’s who of the cabal’s committee of 300:
H.E. Ban Ki Moon (Secretary-General of the United Nations);
H.M. Queen Elizabeth II (The British Royal Family)
H.E Pres. Hisashi Owada (The President of the International Court of Justice),
(the list goes on)
Does anybody on the planet think the cabal is going to voluntarily sign over the financial underpinnings of their world hegemony? In any event, these dark players are not stakeholders in the Dragon Family’s gold reserves. It’s like Obama’s State Department signing over the Ukraine to Nazi Zionists – IT’S NOT THEIRS. And, of course, there was no treaty signed by these parties. This “treaty” is a blatant fraud. Had a treaty been signed, thieves do not convert their loot by signing documents.
Swissindo has always been a fraud. They are Stalinists to the core. Their vision is of a one world dictatorship where property is confiscated, and doled out “to each according to their need,” as long as you are toeing the line with their dictates...
= more: http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/04/1 ... enanigans/
Neal Keenan is another fantasy-maker, who wants you to believe that there is 10X the official amount of gold on this planet (which belong to shadowy "Dragon families"), and that "collateral accounts" hold vast sums - money which is real, but does not somehow show up in the banking system.
Despite these "Fringe" views, he wants you to believe that his fantasies are somehow more real than those of SwissIndo. So here's an EXCERPT from his latest article - debunking S.I.:
The Swissindo cabal fraud is not at all difficult to unmask. The alleged signatory list in the Swissindo “Office Of Military Settlement” reads like a who’s who of the cabal’s committee of 300:
H.E. Ban Ki Moon (Secretary-General of the United Nations);
H.M. Queen Elizabeth II (The British Royal Family)
H.E Pres. Hisashi Owada (The President of the International Court of Justice),
(the list goes on)
Does anybody on the planet think the cabal is going to voluntarily sign over the financial underpinnings of their world hegemony? In any event, these dark players are not stakeholders in the Dragon Family’s gold reserves. It’s like Obama’s State Department signing over the Ukraine to Nazi Zionists – IT’S NOT THEIRS. And, of course, there was no treaty signed by these parties. This “treaty” is a blatant fraud. Had a treaty been signed, thieves do not convert their loot by signing documents.
Swissindo has always been a fraud. They are Stalinists to the core. Their vision is of a one world dictatorship where property is confiscated, and doled out “to each according to their need,” as long as you are toeing the line with their dictates...
= more: http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/04/1 ... enanigans/
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Re: SwissIndo : The Scam exposed
The exposing of Swissindo continues... in an interview with a Swissindo insider
Part 1 of 5 : Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k12qYmmYJfo
Oct 9, 2015
CVOT speaks to Peter Van Runt, the former "Prime Minister for Australia" within the Swissindo organization. In this Part 1, PVR reveals a bit about his background and how he learned about Swissindo through OPPT and Ron van Dyke's channel. Like many others he worked long hours as a volunteer with no pay. He saw SI as something that might overturn and change a corrupted system. He put aside his initial rejection of its system of hierarchy and titles to become involved... Here you will learn something of how this strange organization attracted so many people who committed much time, despite never being paid.
The 5-part interview is still being released. And so far, I like the 3rd one best
Part 3 of 5 : Sucking on the Hopium Pipe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDp7rKHbIZ4
There are some good Notes in the description of each video.
Part 1 of 5 : Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k12qYmmYJfo
Oct 9, 2015
CVOT speaks to Peter Van Runt, the former "Prime Minister for Australia" within the Swissindo organization. In this Part 1, PVR reveals a bit about his background and how he learned about Swissindo through OPPT and Ron van Dyke's channel. Like many others he worked long hours as a volunteer with no pay. He saw SI as something that might overturn and change a corrupted system. He put aside his initial rejection of its system of hierarchy and titles to become involved... Here you will learn something of how this strange organization attracted so many people who committed much time, despite never being paid.
The 5-part interview is still being released. And so far, I like the 3rd one best
Part 3 of 5 : Sucking on the Hopium Pipe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDp7rKHbIZ4
There are some good Notes in the description of each video.
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Re: SwissIndo : The Scam exposed
Necroing this thread, Vice has recently covered Swissindo:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/neqn ... orgiveness
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/neqn ... orgiveness
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Re: SwissIndo : The Scam exposed
It might be a very good report, but its 15 1/2 minutes, more than 13 minutes of which are interviews in whatever language they speak in Indonesia and no translation. It doesn't even offer a coherent conclusion, it just says "yeah, its a ripoff, like all the others".
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Re: SwissIndo : The Scam exposed
Update
Police arrested UN Swissindo cult leader Soegiharto Notonegoro and he is currently at the Bareskrim headquarters. ... Thursday, 02 August, 2018 | 21:38 WIB.
“Yes, we apprehended him,” said Grand Commissioner Daniel Tahi Mohang Silitonga in a text message Tempo received on Thursday, August 2. Soegiharto is currently being questioned at Police’s mobile brigade (Brimob) headquarters.
The UN Swissindo has been in operations since 2010 and was established to erase people’s debt worldwide. Its headquarters is located in Cirebon, West Java.
The Financial Services Authority (OJK) issued a public warning on June 20, 2016, against what the cult is promising to the public. The cult is even deemed to have no permits to conduct any form of debt cleaning.
> http://en.tempo.co/read/news/2018/08/02 ... -Swissindo
Police arrested UN Swissindo cult leader Soegiharto Notonegoro and he is currently at the Bareskrim headquarters. ... Thursday, 02 August, 2018 | 21:38 WIB.
“Yes, we apprehended him,” said Grand Commissioner Daniel Tahi Mohang Silitonga in a text message Tempo received on Thursday, August 2. Soegiharto is currently being questioned at Police’s mobile brigade (Brimob) headquarters.
The UN Swissindo has been in operations since 2010 and was established to erase people’s debt worldwide. Its headquarters is located in Cirebon, West Java.
The Financial Services Authority (OJK) issued a public warning on June 20, 2016, against what the cult is promising to the public. The cult is even deemed to have no permits to conduct any form of debt cleaning.
> http://en.tempo.co/read/news/2018/08/02 ... -Swissindo
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He's been pushing this boojwah since at least 2010 and they issued a notice in 2016 and they've just now gotten around to doing something about it? I really have a hard time understanding why they didn't act when that gov't has such a reputation for lack of toleration of just about everything.
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Swissindo expands to South Africa. "It's not a scam," says scammer.
https://city-press.news24.com/News/its- ... e-20181102Diaku Dianzenza is a key figure behind a “UN Swissindo M1 Voucher” programme that convinced more than 500 000 poor and vulnerable people into believing that they would benefit from a grant voucher for life.
The newspaper published an article about the programme on October 15 after being told that the poor were queuing at Bapedi Hall in Meadowlands Zone 3, Soweto, to register to access the voucher at a cost of R50 – broken down into R20 for photos, R20 for a certificate of application and R10 to set up their email account.
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Just even more disgusting.
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Re: SwissIndo : The Scam exposed
Oh Lordy. The scam is still going.
Apparently there was been a Swissindo and UN merger
This site is at least from 14th October 2023.
https://unosim.webnode.co.uk/
Apparently there was been a Swissindo and UN merger
This site is at least from 14th October 2023.
https://unosim.webnode.co.uk/
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Re: SwissIndo : The Scam exposed
This version seems to try and impersonate an actual Indonesian official, Andi Kasman.AnOwlCalledSage wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:42 pm Oh Lordy. The scam is still going.
Apparently there was been a Swissindo and UN merger
This site is at least from 14th October 2023.
https://unosim.webnode.co.uk/
My question is why him? The guy is the head paper pusher, err, the minister in charge of government information services. Why not their finance minister?