. Brown says that she and her husband initiated an action seven years ago that they believed would advance the “cause of justice.” They wanted to “right a wrong in our government” that would benefit others who had been victimized by government, she wrote.
Elaine Brown wrote:“Now, seven years later, I realize the wrong I have done to you all. One cannot do the wrong thing for the right reason.”
Now, at the age of 73, Elaine still has plenty of time to think about the whole thing. Her projected release date from Federal prison is November 8, 2042, when she would be about 101 years old.Elaine Brown wrote:“Now, seven years later, I realize the wrong I have done to you all. One cannot do the wrong thing for the right reason.”
The problem is that, even if Elaine makes it to the end of her sentence, that she will probably never acknowledge that she was wrong about every single element of her position - including her belief about being not liable for taxes. With that kind of attittude, she is closing the door even on the slimmest chance of being considered for a presidential pardon (and yes, I know it would never happen anyways - just sayin').Famspear wrote:Now, at the age of 73, Elaine still has plenty of time to think about the whole thing.
As of June 6, 2014:Four individuals who assisted Ed and Elaine Brown in the standoff were convicted in connection with the matter. Danny Riley of Cohoes, New York was sentenced to 36 years in federal prison, after having been convicted of helping to supply the Browns, and of stockpiling weapons and threatening law enforcement officials. Riley was convicted of conspiracy, aiding and abetting, and using guns and bombs in connection with the standoff. Also convicted in other trials were Jason Gerhard of Brookhaven, New York (sentenced to twenty years in prison), Cirino Gonzalez of Alice, Texas (sentenced to eight years in prison), and Robert Wolffe of Randolph, Vermont.
I agree that Elaine is an extremely unlikely candidate for a pardon, but I don't think that her continued belief that she was right about her underlying position is necessarily disqualifying. See e.g. Marc Rich, Richard Nixon (and I'm sure many others).The Observer wrote:
The problem is that, even if Elaine makes it to the end of her sentence, that she will probably never acknowledge that she was wrong about every single element of her position - including her belief about being not liable for taxes. With that kind of attittude, she is closing the door even on the slimmest chance of being considered for a presidential pardon (and yes, I know it would never happen anyways - just sayin').
Hey, I guess that's today, June 7th, right?grixit wrote:We should institute some sort of Day of Remembrance......
I further suggest that that day be the anniversary of the Dogwalk.
---from Maddie Hanna & Margot Sanger-Katz, "Feds gather; Browns unscathed," June 8, 2007, Concord Monitor (Concord, New Hampshire).....While agents searched and secured the office building [the building that had been the location of Elaine Brown's dental practice] in the morning [of June 7, 2007], Monier [United States Marshal Stephen Monier] said, marshals patrolled the perimeter of the Browns' 110-acre property. During the surveillance, a marshal encountered a man whom he identified as a Brown supporter [Danny Riley] walking a dog. The man, who was not named, was detained and questioned, Monier said. He was released yesterday afternoon......
Eva Sydel was a dentist;fortinbras wrote:Elaine Brown is a dentist.
Richard Unger ("Dr. Sam Kennedy") is a dentist.
Orly Taitz is a dentist.
Does anyone see a pattern developing?
fortinbras wrote:Elaine Brown is a dentist.
Richard Unger ("Dr. Sam Kennedy") is a dentist.
Orly Taitz is a dentist.
Does anyone see a pattern developing?
A zillion years ago (late 1970s or early 80s, when I was a young associate at a law firm), I was representing a tax shelter promoter being investigated by a federal grand jury in West Virginia. The Assistant U.S. Attorney handling the investigation had a sign on the wall of his office that said, "Most tax shelters are so bad that no one but a doctor will buy them. But every once in a while, a tax shelter is SO bad that you can't sell it to anyone but a dentist."fortinbras wrote:Elaine Brown is a dentist.
Richard Unger ("Dr. Sam Kennedy") is a dentist.
Orly Taitz is a dentist.
Does anyone see a pattern developing?
Announcer: Tonight, on Extreme Homesteading, meet the Garvin Brothers. Joe Garvin and his brother Jerry have been in the construction business for 15 years building custom houses for others, now they want their own. This condemned property is their opportunity!. wrote:Not surprised on the house. Assuming that nobody is crazy enough to want to live in the hideous monstrosity designed (and booby-trapped) by Ed, it has a negative value -- whatever it would cost to demolish it and haul away the rubble, plus the cost of certifying that there are no remaining gifts from Ed like explosives or other bad stuff in the rubble so that the local dump will accept the rubble.
Which leaves the land. Which may have little value after taking into account the cost of verifying that there are no other remaining gifts from Ed like explosives, mines, chemicals or other nasty stuff anywhere on it. The remaining land value minus the cost of getting rid of the house may leave the total property with a net negative value.
The place is kind of a residential version of an EPA Super-fund site -- nobody wants anything to do with it if it ain't 100% cleaned up, and the clean-up cost may be prohibitive.