Plan to track down justice's children (Kenneth W. Leaming)

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With a lot of these guys, application of such a policy would result in a sentence that violates the Rule against Perpetuities.
OK, so we sentence them to life plus 20 years, and the problem is avoided.
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Paul wrote:
With a lot of these guys, application of such a policy would result in a sentence that violates the Rule against Perpetuities.
OK, so we sentence them to life plus 20 years, and the problem is avoided.
Just sentence them to Somalia for a year.
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Yesterday Judge Leighton sentenced Leaming to eight years, and codefendant David Stephenson (who is already serving an eight-year sentence) to ten more. Nothing yet in PACER, but the govt has issued a press release.

Still papering the court with pro se BS, Leaming has now picked up Marc Stevens' canard about "no evidence of jurisdiction". Guess what: it didn't work.
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From the U.S. Attorney's press release:
.....As for LEAMING, prosecutors provided information to the court about his repeatedly holding himself out to victims as a lawyer who could solve their problems, when in fact his actions may have damaged their case. About the crimes from the March 2013 conviction prosecutors wrote: “Defendant’s possession of firearms is particularly disturbing in light of several facts. First is obviously his disdain for government. Second is his possession of various items of police equipment, including numerous badges, light bars, and a Crown Victoria sedan modified to appear to be a police vehicle. Last but not least is Defendant’s repeated invocation of the shooting of government officials in Southern California by a disgruntled former police officer - which again appeared to be a veiled threat to engage in violence himself if he is prevented from pursuing his “‘petitions for redress,’” prosecutors wrote in their sentencing memo....
--Press release, May 24, 2013, U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Washington, at

http://www.justice.gov/usao/waw/press/2 ... aming.html
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Disturbing is the very least of what it all is. The fact that he has the things he does in his possession, and with what he has spouted at various times, he is not a nice person, or one I would want out running around loose. The police paraphernalia is the one that bothers me the most, we've had two of those in the last few years who were basically mobile rapists, and were escalating in their activities, and this one is already escalated more than enough.
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Yeah-- in some places you can be arrested for having "drug paraphernalia", why not "police impersonation paraphernalia"?
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In many jurisdictions you can. I don't remember right off the top of my mind if my state finally made it a felony to possess with the intent to impersonate, but they certainly talked about it when we were having the earlier issues, and it is a felony to impersonate here. I do know that buying or renting anything in state that has the appearance of a police uniform is a NO NO.
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I don't know about arrested but you can be ticketed for having certain items visible in your vehicle here. Such as a gumball machine (flashing light) with red, blue or white lenses instead of yellow since they are emergency only colors. Having blue lights period is a ticketable offense if the officers chooses to press it. Possession of a "badge" is an arrestable offense IIRC here, fake or not, again, if the officer feels the need to do so. I was told before that certain types of LED lights can be restricted if they mimic an emergency vehicle's lights.
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In Massachusetts, you need a permit to display blue or red lights on a motor vehicle.
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Fifty-seven year old Kenneth Wayne Leaming is now inmate # 34928-086 at the Federal Detention Center - Sea Tac at Seattle, Washington, and is scheduled for release on December 5, 2018.

EDIT: Leaming's cohort, fifty-seven year old David Carroll Stephenson, is now inmate # 34448-086, at the same facility. Stephenson's projected release date has not been posted yet.
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So you've been convicted. Your common-law remedies all failed. The treasonous judge not only ignored your brilliant pro-se filings, but sentenced to you eight years in federal prison. Is it time to reflect on the course your life has taken? Is it time to reassess things in which you believed that failed you? Is it time to dedicate yourself to educating people who listened to you about how well your stuff worked?

No! It's time to send the Court a bill for $20,000! Still, as a token of good faith, why don't you make them a "SPECIAL OFFER: One time Only"? Tell them that, if they release you immediately, give you back all your stuff and seal the all the records, you'll reduce the bill to 200 troy ounces of 99.9% pure silver?

It seems only right.
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Well, it certainly adds a certain amount of humor to the mix, and just think of how much it will add to future reviews of his case.
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wserra wrote:So you've been convicted. Your common-law remedies all failed. The treasonous judge not only ignored your brilliant pro-se filings, but sentenced to you eight years in federal prison. Is it time to reflect on the course your life has taken? Is it time to reassess things in which you believed that failed you? Is it time to dedicate yourself to educating people who listened to you about how well your stuff worked?

No! It's time to send the Court a bill for $20,000! Still, as a token of good faith, why don't you make them a "SPECIAL OFFER: One time Only"? Tell them that, if they release you immediately, give you back all your stuff and seal the all the records, you'll reduce the bill to 200 troy ounces of 99.9% pure silver?

It seems only right.
The date of Kenny's bill is April 30, 2013. So, let's proceed from there. He's scheduled to be released on December 5, 2018. From April 30, 2013 to December 5, 2018 is 2,045 days. Let's say, very, very, very conservatively, that the cost to house and feed this scum bag is only $20 a day in the facilities of the Federal Bureau of Prisons. So, that's $20 per day times 2,045 days, or a total of $40,900 for which the taxpayers of America should expect reimbursement.

Um, that's payable in advance, Kenny-poo......

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EDIT: OK, here goes.....

Oh, it seems that our friend, Kenny Leaming,
Is now really upset -- oh, he's steaming!
Yes, he sent us a bill,
But the payment is nil.
If he thinks that we'd pay, then he's dreaming.
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In other news, Kenneth Leaming's cohort, David C. Stephenson, is now scheduled for release from Federal prison on September 25, 2021.
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If only he had offered to settle up with dinars instead of silver...
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Ken Leaming has been pretty much stripped of his various tricks, including fake badges:

http://www.patrickpretty.com/2013/12/02 ... t-records/
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Kenneth Wayne Leaming has been moved to the United States Penitentiary at Marion, Illinois. And his projected release date has been delayed; it's now February 13, 2019.

Not good news for Federal Bureau of Prisons inmate # 34928-086.

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United States Penitentiary at Marion, Illinois.
From what I've heard, that is one nasty place to be.
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Dr. Caligari wrote:
United States Penitentiary at Marion, Illinois.
From what I've heard, that is one nasty place to be.
My understanding is that Marion used to be the very end of the line -- the last place you would want to be sent to in the Federal Prison System (the very highest security level of all in the Federal system). I think that's where folks like Manuel Noriega and John Gotti were held.

But, I believe that with the opening of the United States Penitentiary, Administrative Maximum Facility (ADX Florence) at Florence, Colorado in 1994, ADX Florence is now the end of the line.
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