Ishaq Ibrahim - Sovereign Bank Robber Citizen

[Hilfskreuzer Möwe]

Here's another one:

• Accused Lower Pottsgrove bank robber claims to be a ‘sovereign citizen': http://www.pottsmerc.com/general-news/2 ... gn-citizen

Ishaq Ibrahim argues he cannot be tried for armed bank robbery because:

“I’m a sovereign citizen of a sovereign state and my common law rights have been withheld and denied,”

and of course the search warrant is invalid:

“This is a counterfeit and fraudulent document,” said Ibrahim, holding a copy of the search warrant, adding he’s also being held on “grossly excessive bail.” “I’m stuck in a cell all day, your honor. It hampers my defense.”

His accomplices are not trying this approach. One has already been found guilty (http://www.mainlinemedianews.com/articl ... 598019.txt)

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[notorial dissent]

So we're now going with the "I'm a sovereign citizen you can't arrest me defense" it would seem, and I'd ask "How's that going for you?"? obviously not well from the sounds of it.

What I'm still trying to figure out was since when, or when in fact, was it EVER a common law right to rob a bank, or anyone for that matter? Maybe they would like the old common law punishments to be invoked for their efforts?

[Arthur Rubin]

So we're now going with the "I'm a sovereign citizen you can't arrest me defense" it would seem, and I'd ask "How's that going for you?"? obviously not well from the sounds of it.

Trying for "diplomatic immunity"?

Of course, you need to be a real diplomat from a real country to do that....

[notorial dissent]

And not getting caught for actually having committed a crime might help as well.... but probably not gonna happen.

Maybe on the positive side we'll finally get our very own version of Rook v. Rook, now wouldn't that set the sovcits off!?

[Lambkin]

My name is Sonstar Runner
http://www.pottsmerc.com/general-news/2 ... ed-sonstar

Claiming to be a “sovereign citizen,” an alleged gun toting robber accused of taking part in the holdup of a Lower Pottsgrove bank made a strange request in court, asking a judge to address him by his new name, “sonstar.”

Ishaq Ibrahim, 28, of Philadelphia, even spelled it out for Montgomery County Court officials, carefully and adamantly maintaining his adopted name is spelled with lowercase letters.

“Objection, that’s not my name. He’s committing fraud,” Ibrahim bellowed in court at one point when Assistant District Attorney Gabriel Magee referred to arrest documents that identified him as Ibrahim. “My name is sonstar, for the record. I’m the sovereign man, the living man.”