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The current state of Darash's home docket - 14cv552, NDNY - is amusing:
05/09/2014 1 NOTICE OF REMOVAL from New York State Supreme Court, Greene County, case number 14-0384 (Filed over the counter, in Albany, NY with no fee paid and no IFP application filed) filed by Unified New York Common Law Grand Jury. (Attachments: # 1 Civil Cover Sheet)(tab) (Entered: 05/16/2014)

05/09/2014 2 NOTICE of FILE ON DEMAND by Unified New York Common Law Grand Jury (tab) (Entered: 05/16/2014)

05/16/2014 3 PRO SE HANDBOOK and NOTICE mailed on 5/16/14 (tab) (Entered: 05/16/2014)

05/21/2014 4 ORDER OF RECUSAL. Magistrate Judge Christian F. Hummel recused. Case reassigned to Magistrate Judge Therese Wiley Dancks for all further proceedings. Signed by Magistrate Judge Christian F. Hummel on 5/21/2014. (amt) [Pltf served via reg. mail] (Entered: 05/21/2014)

05/21/2014 5 Letter Motion from Plaintiff Unified New York Common Law Grand Jury requesting a hearing be scheduled for 6/2/2014 submitted to Judge Suddaby. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit(s), # 2 Exhibit(s) - Bill of Information, # 3 Exhibit(s) - Index, # 4 Memorandum of Law)(amt) (Entered: 05/21/2014)

05/23/2014 6 ORDER Directing Administrative Closure with Opportunity to Comply with Filing Fee Requirement. ORDERED that if plaintiff desires to pursue this action, it must so notify the Court WITHIN 30 DAYS of the filing of this Order and either (1) pay the filing fee for civil actions; or (2) submit a completed and signed in forma pauperis application by an individual;... ORDERED that no hearing will be scheduled for June 2, 2014; plaintiff's letter motion requesting a hearing is DENIED. Signed by Judge Glenn T. Suddaby on 5/23/2014. (lah)[copy of order and blank IFP application mailed to plaintiff's address on docket] (Entered: 05/23/2014)

05/29/2014 7 ***STRICKEN FROM THE DOCKET PURSUANT TO # 15 STRIKE ORDER*** Copy of Petition for Writ of Mandamus filed by Unified New York Common Law Grand Jury. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit(s) - Writ of Error, # 2 Exhibit(s) Proposed Writ, # 3 Mailing Envelope) (amt) Modified on 7/29/2014 (lmw). (Entered: 05/29/2014)

06/13/2014 8 ***STRICKEN FROM THE DOCKET PURSUANT TO # 15 STRIKE ORDER*** Submission from non-party filers regarding the case. (amt) Modified on 7/29/2014 (lmw ). (Entered: 06/13/2014)

06/16/2014 9 ***STRICKEN FROM THE DOCKET PURSUANT TO # 15 STRIKE ORDER*** Submission from non-party filers, addressed to Judge Suddaby, regarding the case (amt) Modified on 7/29/2014 (lmw). (Entered: 06/16/2014)

06/23/2014 10 ***STRICKEN FROM THE DOCKET PURSUANT TO # 15 STRIKE ORDER*** Letter from Dean Carpenter to Judge Sharpe dated 6/16/2014. (amt) Modified on 7/29/2014 (lmw). (Entered: 06/23/2014)

07/01/2014 11 ***STRICKEN FROM THE DOCKET PURSUANT TO # 15 STRIKE ORDER*** AMENDED MOTION for Writ of Mandamus filed by Unified New York Common Law Grand Jury. (tab) Modified on 7/29/2014 (lmw). (Entered: 07/01/2014)

07/01/2014 12 ***STRICKEN FROM THE DOCKET PURSUANT TO # 15 STRIKE ORDER*** FILE ON DEMAND/TRUE BILL/MEMORANDUM OF LAW filed by Unified New York Common Law Grand Jury. (tab) Modified on 7/29/2014 (lmw). (Entered: 07/01/2014)

07/15/2014 13 ***STRICKEN FROM THE DOCKET PURSUANT TO # 15 STRIKE ORDER*** FILE ON DEMAND/BILL OF INFORMATON filed by Unified New York Common Law Grand Jury. (tab) Modified on 7/29/2014 (lmw). (Entered: 07/21/2014)

07/15/2014 14 ***STRICKEN FROM THE DOCKET PURSUANT TO # 15 STRIKE ORDER*** FILE ON DEMAND/TRUE BILLS (1-9) filed by Unified New York Common Law Grand Jury. (tab) Modified on 7/29/2014 (lmw). (Entered: 07/21/2014)

07/29/2014 15 ORDER TO STRIKE the following documents: Petition for Writ of Mandamus (Dkt. No. 7), Submission from non-party filers (Dkt. No. 8), Submission from Non-party filer (Dkt. No. 9), Letter from Dean Carpenter (Dkt. No. 10), Amended Motion for Writ of Mandamus (Dkt. No. 11), File on Demand/True Bill/Memorandum of Law (Dkt. No. 12), File on Demand/Bill of Information (Dkt. No. 13) and File on Demand/True Bills (1-9) (Dkt. No. 14) in the above-entitled action are all stricken from the docket and those documents will not be considered by the Court as there is no case pending in this Court. This case was ordered administratively closed on 5/23/14 (Dkt. No. 6) for the plaintiffs failure to pay this Courts filing fee or file a motion to proceed in forma pauperis. Signed by Judge Glenn T. Suddaby on 7/29/14. (lmw)(Copy served upon pro se plaintiff via regular mail) (Entered: 07/29/2014)
Of the 15 docket entries, 8 have been ordered stricken. Of the remaining 7, one is the dumbass "notice of Removal" of their own state court action (sorry, can't do that, boys); another is the dumbass "Notice" that the Court has to file whatever the boys want filed (see how far that went, boys); another is the dumbass demand for a hearing on the day the boys want (Judge Suddaby: "Fuck no"); and the remaining 4 are Court filings.

Really making an impact.
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LightinDarkness wrote:Oh dear, Darash is very angry with people calling him and other NLA members delusional/conspiracy theorists/mentally ill. So now...wait for it...hes filed yet more gibberish papers commanding judges to acknowledge that sov'runs aren't mentally ill and that conspiracy theorists are correct.Darash's gibberish states that equating sov'runs with the mentally ill is a communist conspiracy called "psychiatry" ( :haha:) that is seeking to silence freedom loving patriots. Again, not kidding, here is the document:
http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/ ... -02-14.pdf

I wonder if anyone in NLA is smart enough to point out that this kind of nutty explanation ("the communist conspiracy of psychiatry") is exactly what we would expect crazy, delusional people to think?
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wserra wrote:Of the 15 docket entries, 8 have been ordered stricken. Of the remaining 7, one is the dumbass "notice of Removal" of their own state court action (sorry, can't do that, boys); another is the dumbass "Notice" that the Court has to file whatever the boys want filed (see how far that went, boys); another is the dumbass demand for a hearing on the day the boys want (Judge Suddaby: "Fuck no"); and the remaining 4 are Court filings.

Really making an impact.
11 out of 15, making a comeback! Oh, wait, the other 4 are actual filings by the court. Oh well, back to the drawing board, still a 100% loss rate.

BTW the court spelled mandumbass wrong

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NLA made the news, but probably not in the way they wanted to. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/03/s ... nd-juries/
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There's a fellow down the street who lets his dog do his business in everyone's yard but his and no cleaning up afterwards. Maybe I should get the neighbors together for a common law grand jury and indict him. That'll work, right? :sarcasmon:
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Slim Cognito wrote:There's a fellow down the street who lets his dog do his business in everyone's yard but his and no cleaning up afterwards. Maybe I should get the neighbors together for a common law grand jury and indict him. That'll work, right? :sarcasmon:
You don't have a HOA? Their ten times worse then Darash at his best.
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PatriotTrue7 wrote:NLA made the news, but probably not in the way they wanted to. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/03/s ... nd-juries/
It's sometimes said that there's no such thing as bad publicity, but having "whacky" in the headline can't be good (unless you're promoting a musical comedy).
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Considering that the article was to put it mildly, highly derisive and dismissive, I can't imagine that supreme grand potentate Darash is going to be best pleased. I would suspect that he and his coterie had best get used to being pointed and laughed at since they are going to become serious objects of derision the more aware people become of them. And then they'll get to sit for their mug shots.
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I'm listening to the latest NLA propaganda - the weekly John Darash Gives Really Bad Sov'run Legal Advice conference call - and right off the bat we have a classic case of how stupid these people are.

The very first person up is some guy who is charged with domestic violence, on a level bad enough that they had to take him to jail. Even though the guy admits he has access to a very good lawyer (because his parents are paying for it), he doesn't use the lawyer and shows up to the court spouting off about common law and that there is no injured party. That is just a breathtaking level of stupidity - you have access to a lawyer (for FREE thanks to mommy and daddy) but you'd rather go sov'run on the court? And there is no injured party when you were accused of VIOLENCE/ABUSING YOUR WIFE, how is your wife not the injured party? Of course the judge is having none of it, and Darash's advice - sue the judge/start filing gibberish - is only going to ensure this guy ends up being convicted or found in contempt Yet another NLA "win."

The second caller is interesting because we may have finally found someone where Darash thinks they've actually committed a crime. This guy was using two social security cards (presumably to collect benefits of some sort, SSDI it sounds like?) for decades. The government finds out and he serves about a year in jail for it and has a felony. Then the guy runs for office, wins, but is told he can't hold the position due to the felony. To my shock, Darash says he'll have to "think about it" because while social security is a fraud (of course he would think that), the guy did appear to have committed a crime! Its kind of interesting the things Darash thinks are not crimes (domestic abuse, elder abuse, burglary, assault) versus the one thing he seems to think is a fraud (collecting double on social security). It also makes no sense based on his own sov'run logic. Where is the VICTIM John, the government cannot be a victim according to you!
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Interesting to say the very least.

So spousal abuse isn't a crime according to him and Darash, not really a surprise as several of the sovrunidjit blowhards I'm familiar with maintain that the spouse and children are essentially property of the husband, so the above opinion definitely follows that, which is why they are always in family court.

I find it interesting that he thought the SSI fraud was fraud, but he'll probably talk himself out of that somewhere along the way.

The thing is, logic and Darash don't have even a nodding acquaintance.
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The hammer she is a beginning to fall.

Terry Trussell, the maverick NLA jury foreman from Dixie county FL, has been removed by Judge Parker from the grand jury he was sitting on, and was later arrested and charged with, wait for it, "simulating a legal process", for convening his own fake grand jury and issuing his "presentments" to the court. Who'd a thunk!!!! :haha: If you're interested in the whackjob version of what happened the below link is a hoot.

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Well, I guess they did make history in Dixie County Florida. Just not the kind the NLA or PFA was hoping for. :snicker:
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I'm hoping for even more in GA and NY, real soon now.
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notorial dissent wrote:and was later arrested and charged with, wait for it, "simulating a legal process", for convening his own fake grand jury and issuing his "presentments" to the court. Who'd a thunk!!!!
I wondered if there was a criminal statue that applied to what they were doing, and "simulating a legal process" is a pretty good way to describe it.

Didn't know there was such a crime, though. And it's not unique to Florida, because a Google search for those words turned up references to at least a dozen states with statutes using those words.

The same search also turned up a 2006 post by Bob Hurt to the "Lawmen" Google group with the text of a letter he claims to have sent to Pinellas County officers accusing the IRS of the same thing because of the "fake liens" that they file.
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In the last twenty years or so, a lot of states have adopted laws aimed at paper terrorism. These include broader and more severe laws about fake legal papers, nuisance liens, and the like. Back in 2008 Congress adopted a law, titled as protecting judges but actually written to cover all federal civil servants, making it a serious felony to use paper terrorism against a govt employee for his official duties.

One of the problems is that, with the rising tide of violent and other crimes, law enforcement and prosecutors feel that stomping out mere paperworker is poor publicity and not a priority.
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There actually is a fairly recent statute in FL regarding "simulating a legal process", I've seen the reference to it, but don't have it at the moment, but they are serious and mean business it would seem. :haha: It's actually becoming more and more common thanks to the actions of some of our favorite sovrunidjits and the NLA wannabes.

FL 843.0855 I believe.

Somehow Bob Hurt doing that doesn't surprise me in the least, once an idiot, always an idiot.
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notorial dissent wrote:The hammer she is a beginning to fall.

Terry Trussell, the maverick NLA jury foreman from Dixie county FL, has been removed by Judge Parker from the grand jury he was sitting on, and was later arrested and charged with, wait for it, "simulating a legal process", for convening his own fake grand jury and issuing his "presentments" to the court. Who'd a thunk!!!! :haha: If you're interested in the whackjob version of what happened the below link is a hoot.

whackjob blog site
Here's some more vintage Trussell, in relation to Operation American Spring. He's one of the wild-eyed types. Eats bat poop for breakfast.
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Something tells me Trussell was a wee bit disappointed the drones didn't appear.
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Even for the National Lunatic Asylum crowd I think Trussell is more than a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

He's real put out that the DA and the judge didn't bow down to his duly constituted common law grand jury, and even more provoked that he got fired, and I'll just bet his jailing didn't go over well since he was the grand jury foreman and all..
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Presently on the RuSA thread, Darash has used an NLA front, The Constitution Club, to warn NLA members about a loose cannon named Jaoquin DeMoreta-Folsh, who evidently is churning out his own crazy pseudolegal papers without Darash's authorization.
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