"Chief Rock Sino General" - Freeman guru-to-be?

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We do hope that Mr. General will comply with the order today as he has suggested to our lawyer.

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Burnaby49 wrote:I'd bet paragraph 8 is painful. Just rubbing it in.
I didn't think being declared an OCPA had any actual legal status attached to it. I thought "vexatious litigant" was the status that prevented court activities without supervision.
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"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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GC_SDNPBC wrote:We do hope that Mr. General will comply with the order today as he has suggested to our lawyer.

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Welcome back Ron, and congratulations on a successful and appropriate court action. I imagine your position limits your postings here but I hope Quatloos gives you some OPCA entertainment to offset some of the OPCA headaches you've had to deal with!
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And what happened with the Chief in terms of complying with the court order?
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A well timed question because, entirely by chance, I ran into the Chief outside the downtown Vancouver courthouse a few days ago and I asked him about that! I was on the way to one of my innumerable Poriskyite hearings. The Chief was, as always, friendly and quite open about things. He said he'd delivered his notary stuff to the Society. However without confirmation from the Society I have no way of verifying exactly what he surrendered. The big item was his fake notary seals.

He was also required to give the Society a client list but I don't know the status of that. He said he planned to appeal the decision and I told him great, entirely within his rights, but be sure and comply with the court order until then. Otherwise he'll trigger the suspended jail term.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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So...wait, wait. I don't understand. The Chief clearly indicates he believes Canadian courts have no power over him. By complying with the order, isn't the Chief indicating that Canadian courts do indeed have proper jurisdiction?

Even if he appeals, why would you do that if (as in his fantasy) your first nation status makes you exempt from the laws of Canada? He will of course lose that appeal, and he knows that, but he also knows most of his sovcit followers will take any loss as a win because were dealing with really stupid people here.

Of course we know what happened in reality: when the Chief finally realized the sovcit bluster was going to result in actual jail time, he was quick to bow to the will of the court. I really hope he proves me wrong by fighting the contempt order and not complying fully - the jail time would be just lovely (and it is what he should have received this time around). But I doubt he will. When push came to shove, the Chief caved.

And so we add yet another loss in the annals of sovcit court cases in Canada...bringing up their success rate to an astonishing 0%. Thanks for adding to the "successes," Chief!
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LightinDarkness wrote:The Chief clearly indicates he believes Canadian courts have no power over him.
Perhaps he finally realized the logic in the fact that:
  • since he notarized documents used in Canadian courts
then:
  • he was responsible for breaching his two canoes treaty
and that by doing so, he put himself into Canadian jurisdiction.
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LightinDarkness wrote:Of course we know what happened in reality: when the Chief finally realized the sovcit bluster was going to result in actual jail time, he was quick to bow to the will of the court.
Here's my take on this: the Chief was pursuing this notary scam as just another way of earning some bucks, regardless of what harms this would cause. If the government got involved, he could try to bluster through it by playing the race card. Maybe the government would back off, maybe it would trigger some support for native causes, maybe he would get some free publicity for his music career. And when jail time finally loomed, he would roll over and give up the notary - and then be able to claim his surrender as another one of those horrible moments in native history where the evil white man government stomped all over native rights.
Hyrion wrote:...he was responsible for breaching his two canoes treaty...
The Chief has been in the breach of that treaty every time he uses a Canadian highway, uses Canadian money, works as a welder in Canadian cities, uses a Canadian bank...the list goes on.
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Here is the contract presented to the judge in lieu of showing up in court for Micah Green by Chief Rock
https://micahgreenestate.wordpress.com/ ... ile-56346/
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Thanks, a bit more history of the Chief's glory days. I've posted nothing about the Chief for about eight years because he dropped all of his sovereign activity as a result of his contempt of court conviction. He now focuses on his music career and the sale of sundries such as clothing. He's working on a website for clothes called "Native By Nature Clothing". I've no idea how successful he's been.

I visit his Face Book page from time to time and he still posts anti-government, alternate lifestyle stuff but nothing of any consequence. He's been posting anti-Teflon videos of late, fluff like that. His latest Face Book posting tells how he just released (online) a new album 14 hours ago;
Sino General updated his profile picture.
14h ·
RedSKin Boy Album now available on all streaming platforms, bandcamp is where you can support and buy the album #redskinboy #chiefrock #chiefy #entertribal #mzshellz
A friend of his has this to say about it.
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This is my friend Sino General’s latest record.

He made it himself. While simultaneously hustling on a dozen other successful fronts including backing his partner Shell Z Runns on her own epic music journey.

Sino defends his and all peoples with a free and independent mind. He doesn’t care about popular opinion, cultural or any other boundaries.

This record was not at all what I was expecting to hear. I was expecting a pretty hard-political, classic Sino rapping record.

It’s however mostly a love record. Which is perfect and exactly what’s needed during dark times.

Thank you Sino for all your hard work in music, your business, family and most of all for your expressing yourself freely and accessibly.

I love you brother.
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Look it's been a while fellas. We should all start a new thread. Have some debates. Also, updates on some activities. Also, I am starting my podcast soon and would absolutely love any of you to come on and have some talks.

That's an invite to anyone who wishes. Especially to Burnaby49.

See you all later. Just appreciate you all checking in on me. Very cool.
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Welcome back Chief, hope you're doing well. I've been intermittently following you on You Tube and watching your music videos. Where was the last Mzshellz video filmed? Didn't seem like the Vancouver area.

If you provide info on your podcast I'll check it out. We were going to have lunch when your sister very unfortunately fell ill and we lost track. Invite's still open if you're interested.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Absolutely, we filmed it in Hollywood. If you want to DM me and we can set something up. But if anyone on the forum wishes to come on my podcast once it's up lmk.

Also my teen daughter was assaulted by security at Guildford mall, wasn't sure if anyone saw that. I.can do the documents needed to start a civil lawsuit but, I been advised to get a legal team who will go to bat for the racial profiling they did. If any of you know of a passionate team who would get this job done be welcomed info. We are going to do a human rights complaint.

Glad this forum is still active.
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Or just email me at chiefrockmusic@gmail.com
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Is this the incident your daughter was involved in?
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2024/11/1 ... ndigenous/
You made it on to major news networks. My advice to you - get a good lawyer and if you reached out on social media, especially twitter, you might get some help. IANAL but I've seen that crap before.
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Yes that was it. A few networks covered it. Like my kid is 16 , didn't steal anything. So we will be go for all those involved, jointly & severally. Just looking for some good recommendations.
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I read an article about the Guildford Mall incident in the Vancouver Sun (my only source of local news) but I hadn't realized the girl involved was your daughter. Sorry, but I can't help with references. The only lawyers I've been acquainted with were the tax lawyers I dealt with while a CRA auditor and that was over fifteen years ago. Eric's advice is as good as any I can give.

While Quatloos is still active the collapse of the sovereign/freeman era has resulted in a much reduced number of postings, at least from me. I now post a small fraction of the volume I churned out when the sovereign movement was at its peak.

I'll DM or email you about meeting up. Unfortunately no Taco Tuesdays this time since the place we went to last time has, as you're probably aware, closed down.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Brandi Morin would be my suggestion but I see you have all ready spoken with her. Not a lawyer but she may have advice.