Hannah Shotbolt- An English Rose

[PeanutGallery]

Funnily enough there is a thread on Goodf explaining the troubles they are having getting money from the government for the baby whose birth was never registered.

It contains a number of gems, like why won't the state give us money for this child we don't want the state to know exists, and an argument when another free spirit rationalises that if you want your child to be free of the state, don't ask the state for the money it's entitled to.

Obviously the simple solution of "register the birth numbnuts" isn't suggested. Truly it is a glimpse of Hannah's future.

[mufc1959]

Funnily enough there is a thread on Goodf explaining the troubles they are having getting money from the government for the baby whose birth was never registered.

A baby whose name is B O, apparently.

[bmxninja357]

We live in a world where you need a license to own a cat and must get it vaccinated but absolutely any incompetent schmuck can have as many little failures as they like......

Go figure.
ninj

[PeanutGallery]

Unfortunately requiring people to get a licence to reproduce smacks too much of eugenics, which was used to justify some serious unpleasantness in Germany back in the day. Without wishing to mire this in verboten political discussion, I would support Hannah's right to have a child, but I would also support the state if it were to intervene should Hannah's ability to provide care to that child fall short of an acceptable standard.

So she can have as many children as she likes, but for each one she will have a great deal of responsibility to ensure that it's needs are met.

[littleFred]

I have been told by people who have children that this totally changed their outlook on life. Becoming responsible for an initially helpless human life made them very aware that life was no longer just about, "me, me, me".

Something similar may occur to Hannah.

[Hercule Parrot]

Funnily enough there is a thread on Goodf explaining the troubles they are having getting money from the government for the baby whose birth was never registered.

It contains a number of gems, like why won't the state give us money for this child we don't want the state to know exists, and an argument when another free spirit rationalises that if you want your child to be free of the state, don't ask the state for the money it's entitled to.

Pathetic hypocrisy. "We deny the authority of the state and refuse to cooperate in it's arrangements. Oh, but please can we have some free money anyway?"

[Fmotlgroupie]

I have been told by people who have children that this totally changed their outlook on life. Becoming responsible for an initially helpless human life made them very aware that life was no longer just about, "me, me, me".

Something similar may occur to Hannah.

I have certainly known some fairly sketchy people who have really turned things around after having children. Hopefully Hannah, having many socio-economic privileges, will manage to be one of the people who manage to sort themselves out.

[littleFred]

I've kind of ditched the hippy movement and come back into the matrix a bit more because I needed a job -- I've got a baby coming now, so, priorities and all that.

Our favourite, well, my favourite free blonde on the land has suddenly noticed that the evil government has sneakily introduced a horrible law to ...

No, sorry, I got that wrong.

The wonderful government has brought in a wonderful law that finally brings the police under control. This means that if the police don't do exactly what a SovCit tells them to do, they can be jailed for up to 14 years. And it isn't a law but merely a statute so, umm, I dunno.

Hannah perhaps didn't notice that a "reasonable person" would need to agree with the SovCit's view.

See the video (and linked legislation).

[Normal Wisdom]

I've kind of ditched the hippy movement and come back into the matrix a bit more because I needed a job -- I've got a baby coming now, so, priorities and all that.

Our favourite, well, my favourite free blonde on the land has suddenly noticed that the evil government has sneakily introduced a horrible law to ...

No, sorry, I got that wrong.

The wonderful government has brought in a wonderful law that finally brings the police under control. This means that if the police don't do exactly what a SovCit tells them to do, they can be jailed for up to 14 years. And it isn't a law but merely a statute so, umm, I dunno.

Hannah perhaps didn't notice that a "reasonable person" would need to agree with the SovCit's view.

See the video (and linked legislation).

That new legislation is being cited in a lot of sovcit circles especially those concerned with evictions because of course it means that from now on the police won't be able to assist bailiffs carrying out evictions. Of course the word bailiff is not mentioned in the entire statute but it still works because sovcits have a perfect grasp of what police should and shouldn't do.

[Hercule Parrot]

That new legislation is being cited in a lot of sovcit circles especially those concerned with evictions because of course it means that from now on the police won't be able to assist bailiffs carrying out evictions.

And they are of course deluding themselves. As many here will know, CPS will not bring a criminal prosecution under s26 Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 unless they are satisfied that the Full Code Test is met. That will mean that the defendant cop's conduct was very plainly beyond any reasonable purpose, and that it can be proven, and that to prosecute is in the public interest. Also we know that if any person commences a private prosecution, CPS can take it over and discontinue it with the stroke of a pen.

This new law will make no difference at all to how bailiffs and evictions are policed.

[Hercule Parrot]

Back to the delightful Hannah for a moment - this FaceBook parody is amusing..

https://www.facebook.com/HannahConvict

[littleFred]

I'm just ranting, sorry.

In the closing words of a recent video, she drives home the point that I've just wasted 15 minutes of my life.

But it isn't a rant. Merely a ramble, an emotionless recitation of how wonderful Dean Clifford is, and how Hannah didn't really bottle anyone but merely smashed her heel into a woman's teeth so she was jailed for something she didn't do. And on and on and on like the pointless bore in the pub.

Her FB has some other new videos, but I have more interesting things to do. This paint won't dry unless I watch it.

[Hercule Parrot]

I've read the court judgement from Tom crawfords eviction today (found here) https://infotomb.com/cixyk.pdf and the family's claims that they've won the case are completely without merit. The judge gave permission to appeal two and a half years out of date but refused the appeal. The suspension on the possession order issued in January has been lifted which means it's valid until the middle of June. The bank did not change the mortgage agreement without consent as tom claimed in his videos and this was evidenced with a transaction of £178. Something credited to Mrs crawfords account when she cancelled and cashed in the policy. It very clearly states that both parties agree that no change was made to the mortgage agreement and so toms claim that it was were false. The bank made not one but two attempts to offer them a repayment mortgage which would have meant they were actually paying it off and both times the Crawfords refused. Another point is why did tom not mention that there was an attempt at repossession in 2006?? He paid the arrears and no repossession was made. It's dodgy as fuck in my opinion

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id ... 96&fref=nf

Credit to the lass, she spoke the truth even if it made her an outcast.

[littleFred]

One of her own comments on that thread:

Yea I agree they should have Stephen and I'm not saying banks are honourable. But the claim of fraud here just isn't true. The only fraud is that the bank never lent anything in the first place and that argument was not put forwArd

[daltontrumbno]

One of her own comments on that thread:

Yea I agree they should have Stephen and I'm not saying banks are honourable. But the claim of fraud here just isn't true. The only fraud is that the bank never lent anything in the first place and that argument was not put forwArd

And just as we thought she was begining to pull herself out of the rabbit hole she goes and blows it with the old the debt didn't exist in the first place cliché.

[Normal Wisdom]

It's interesting that when Hannah has nothing personally invested in the story (i.e. Tom Crawford's case) she is capable of a logical and lucid analysis of the facts. However, when it comes to her needing a driving licence and insurance or to pay her council tax she quaffs the Kool-ade just like any good sovrun.

[Normal Wisdom]

Hannah has got into a flat out slanging match with Craig Crawford and some of the TC supporters on her FB page. It seems she posted on the "Eviction-fraud of the bank" FB page to explain just why Tom lost and suggested that they should crowdfund the £40k-odd Tom needs. That went down like a lead balloon and the post was deleted. Remembering how she managed to raise exactly £30 through her own crowdfunding appeal begging on FB perhaps it's understandable.

Anyway Craig and co. followed her back to her own FB page and the fun began. When I last looked Hannah was telling Craig what she would do to his sister if only she wasn't pregnant while in a separate post and no doubt still on a rush from managing to understand some of the longer words in the TC judgement she was speculating about the possibility of undertaking a law degree "just to fuck with them really". She seems just the type.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... nref=story

[PeanutGallery]

What happened to the whole peace and love thing that these truthers preached?

Their is a serious case of emperors new clothes going on with the Crawfords and their supporters, I think it's going to be very disturbing when the bailiffs rock up to Toms door.

[vampireLOREN]

Hannah has got into a flat out slanging match with Craig Crawford and some of the TC supporters on her FB page. It seems she posted on the "Eviction-fraud of the bank" FB page to explain just why Tom lost and suggested that they should crowdfund the £40k-odd Tom needs. That went down like a lead balloon and the post was deleted. Remembering how she managed to raise exactly £30 through her own crowdfunding appeal begging on FB perhaps it's understandable.

Anyway Craig and co. followed her back to her own FB page and the fun began. When I last looked Hannah was telling Craig what she would do to his sister if only she wasn't pregnant while in a separate post and no doubt still on a rush from managing to understand some of the longer words in the TC judgement she was speculating about the possibility of undertaking a law degree "just to fuck with them really". She seems just the type.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... nref=story

This story just keeps giving and giving

[guilty]

Hannah's site is certainly entertaining. I watched all 55 mins of psychodilla's video and I gather he is not amused.
The loons are still commenting that it was all fraud.