GOODF thread
three-hour video
http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/v ... VI24pPu18E
Gosh. Peter can talk for three hours while saying very little. This is my summary [with my own added commentary].
There are too many statutes. We have a duty to rebel.
9m 0s: Society is infected with jobsworths, "This is the way it must be." It's all about money. Offences are punished by fines. Money controls society, and bankers (not politicians) control the money supply.
17m 0s: In 2012, Peter's three legs of a milking stool: (1) "inviolable human sovereignty" -- beware of tyrants. (2) Free energy. Shock testing, Stockholm syndrome, learned helplessness.
26m 0s: In 2007, Peter put arrest warrants for Blair etc in front of a judge. Cameron etc all went to Cambridge at the same time. [No. They went to Oxford, and not at the same time. He keeps repeating this Cambridge nonsense.]
32m 0s: This is the enemy. They are in the club, which we will never be in.
33m 30s: Leg of the stool is (3) Banking and finance community. "If you want to have money, you've got to be in the banking business."
36m 40s: 10,000 cheques have gone out, and the bankers don't know what to do with them.
There is primary and secondary legislation, statutory instruments.
44m 0s: ACPO. Masons worship Baal.
46m 20s: Peter's PayPal account was frozen; no explanation. Bank account likewise.
50m 0s: Summary of WeRe Bank. To give money back to people. No taxation or inflation. Money can be exchanged for goods and services; a method of exchange. The banks are unfair. They create money. We can concentrate energy. Robert Louis Stevenson invented the internal combustion engine. [Bollocks. You are thinking of the
external combustion engine.] We can travel more quickly nowadays. But we need to jump the track. Take the system down, or travel alongside.
1h 0m 0s: WeRe Bank duplicates the banking model. You borrow money, promising to pay back over time. With WeRe, the promise comes first, to the bank instead of to utility company or whatever. The model is purer and more transparent. Chequebooks for members of ReMovement. Bills of Exchange Act governs all banking. Cheques clear on the individual's promissory note. There is no point in the sequence where the banks or a judge can come along and say, "This is a hypothetical situation ..." We have the same documentation that the banks have.
1h 8m 0s: Quatloos: shills, trolls, insidious, vindictive, these guys in the United States, quite methodical threats. Tenacity, corrosive, trash it no matter what. Peter's response: it is bullet-proof; it isn't fraud. Aside from Quatloos, almost no-one is accusing him of fraud.
1h 12m 30s: [Video edit removes something.]
The sort code is invalid? The first proofs of the cheques came with National Westminster plc name and logos, and Peter corrected this. This proves Peter isn't trying to pass off. The printer is Comunisis [sp?], first meeting was in 2012. But on the day of delivery, they cancelled the order. But "we got around this."
1h 15m 0s: You can write a cheque on anything, including a cow.
1h 16m 15s: United Utilities Water Limited letter, dated 6 May 2015, saying, "Thank you for your payment of £1354.51 that we received on 30 April 2015. I can now confirm that your account balance is now paid in full." [Audience applause.] [Bank holiday, so the letter was written on day 4. It would take another two days before UU could be certain it had cleared,
if it went through C&CCC cycle.] Peter mentions the C&CCC video, and says it can't be said to be cleared until after the sixth day. [Yes, 6
banking days.]
Many people have phone Peter up to say cheques have cleared.
A lot of people have had letters from their bank saying the WeRe Bank refused to clear them. But Peter has the phone. No-one else. He has not refused one cheque, if anyone phones up to ask will the cheque clear. After checking the writer's limit, "We say it's good, and we clear it." Bromley Borough Council phoned and didn't know how to clear it. Peter said send me a photocopy of the cheque "and from that point on we would clear it and then we would transfer funds to them in whatever way they needed to have it done." [Peter
doesn't say that he ever sent money to Bromley.]
"We can clear it over the phone. So there is nothing to dispute there."
1h 20m 0s: Allonges set out what the payee must do with the cheque. "If they refuse to accept it, the drawer of the cheque is released from their liability." [Untrue.] "If they accept it but refuse to present it for clearing, again, the liability of the drawer of the cheque is excused." So if the cheque is returned to you, send a notarial protest, and then it's closed.
1h 22m 0s: Remember, this is done as a defensive mechanism. Not to go out and buy a new car etc, but to keep the bailiffs away etc. Also to send a shot across the bows of the banks. We're not doing anything wrong. We're not stealing. People have joined from New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Canada and USA. About 200 to 240 chequebooks have gone out. Paypal account is frozen.
1h 25m 50s: [Ten-minute break.]
Less-conventional ideas on banking and finance. Sociopaths and psychopaths. Narcissistic and precocious. Same as the police. Extra-terrestrial technology. Spiritual intervention. Humanity needs a change of conciousness. People are suckers for the truth. Omega-minus ascension cycle.
1h 36m 20s: Fear-based energy. We are all connected. Money is pumped into national economies but reaches only a very small number of people.
1h 41m 40s: Financial Transaction Tax to fund ReMovement and government-in-waiting. Things cost 5 times as much as they would if there were no taxes. These could abolished and replaced with 1% FTT, raising 3 times as much.
How ex-prime ministers get paid.
1h 55m 40s: By the end of this year, meetings like this should be held in football stadiums.
2h 2m 0s: It can all be done but we need to pull together. Everyone should, like Iceland, kick out all private banks. [Huh? Like WeRe Bank?]
2h 08m 20s: Promissory notes are in two currencies: £150,000 or 148,000 Re. If you earn £20,000 a year ten over ten years this easily pays down the note. If you are too old to work, look at what you have been paid compared to what you were worth.
2 13m 20s: Q: How do we get the police and army on our side? Peter doesn't really know.
2h 20m 50s: Q: How do we join the WeRe Bank? A: There will be a new website. Not Paypal or a bank, but some other payment system. Perhaps meetings with collections.
Numerology stuff.
It's not about Peter making money.
Q: How do we pay you the £10?
2h 32m 10s: [Video edit.]
Printers and post office etc won't accept Re. This is why the £10 needs to be in sterling, not Re.
Peter might be moving from here he currently lives, because the people he lives with are "normal" and wouldn't come to ,meetings like this. Currently all WeRe work is done by Peter.
2h 43m 20s: We have an infinite supply of Re units, with no inflation.
Anyone accusing WeRe of fraud would first have to dismantle the entire banking system, because WeRe complies with the Bills of Exchange Act. [But Peter entirely misunderstands the BoE Act.]
If a payee accuses a WeRe customer of fraud, the customer should ask the payee when they asked Peter to clear the cheque. In 90% of the cases, the payee doesn't present for clearing.
2h 57m 30s: If it ever gets to court, and it may, we can say, we paid it, it didn't bounce, it cleared and these are the rules.
What Peter didn't say:
- whether he has ever tried to use a WeRe cheque;
- whether WeRe Bank has ever received a cheque for clearing;
- whether WeRe Bank has ever paid any sterling (or even any Re) for a cheque;
- whether he has, or will ever, sell the promissory notes.
There is plenty of evidence here that Peter doesn't understand process of clearing, which should include WeRe paying out sterling, or protest, or that payees can if they wish decline to accept any cheques. He misleads his audience, to put it mildly.
Peter cites the
The Deregulation (Bills of Exchange) Order 1996 s4, which amends the BoE 1882:
74B.—(1) A banker may present a cheque for payment to the banker on whom it is drawn by notifying him of its essential features by electronic means or otherwise, instead of by presenting the cheque itself.
Peter, I have added emphasis: "for payment". This means WeRe Bank should pay the amount shown on the cheque. Have you ever done so?
Ditto.