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Re: UK - Tom Crawford Calls For Help

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Hopefully the video should bring more visitors to this site. No such thing as bad publicity. Thankyou to Ceylon and his sidekick.
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Re: UK - Tom Crawford Calls For Help

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guilty wrote:They don't do much research do they?
Jay Adkisson earned his Juris Doctor degree from the University of Oklahoma in 1988, and was a member of the Oklahoma Law Review. He has been admitted to practice before the Supreme Court of Oklahoma (1989), Texas (1993), California (2007), Nevada (2012), Arizona (2012), the U.S. Supreme Court, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th, 9th, 10th, and 11th Circuits, and numerous federal district courts nationwide. In 23 years of practicing law, he has been in litigation and trials from Houston to Miami to Delaware to Tacoma to San Diego, and many places in between.

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Since when has that idiot Ceylon let the truth get in the way of a good story?
Did Ceylon call him a conman? That's a bit rich. :lol:
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Re: UK - Tom Crawford Calls For Help

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A published video slandering an attorney? Not very sensible.
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Re: UK - Tom Crawford Calls For Help

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rumpelstilzchen wrote:Hopefully the video should bring more visitors to this site. No such thing as bad publicity. Thankyou to Ceylon and his sidekick.
Who is his side kick ? He is in most of the Ceylon clips but I don't know who he is
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Bones wrote:
rumpelstilzchen wrote:Hopefully the video should bring more visitors to this site. No such thing as bad publicity. Thankyou to Ceylon and his sidekick.
Who is his side kick ? He is in most of the Ceylon clips but I don't know who he is
I have no idea. His driver? His significant other? His minder? Who knows? Who cares? :lol:
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Re: UK - Tom Crawford Calls For Help

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rumpelstilzchen wrote:Part of a post made on Facebook today by Amanda Pike:
What people who don't believe us need to fully understand is that the team of people behind the scenes helping us, are of an extremely high calibre....were not talking a bunch of riff raff that have just poled up off the street and offered help and have no idea what they are doing and we are blindly following them.
These people are AMAZING.....experts within their own fields some have written actual laws and others are the highest authority in the land for case laws we are using, forensic expert, common law experts, some having been the top trainers for the police in common law. And more! We are not fools we fully understand the document and its meaning as does walker morris and the judge. If you dont believe thats honestly okay I hand on heart mean that. because it doesn't change the outcome for us. You'll just have to wait and see but thats your choice.
Well....they have people on their team who have written "actual laws"..........plus people who are the highest authority in the land for case law........hmmmmm. I'm not too sure I believe that......
Actual laws are written by very specially trained and recruited Lawyers who work exclusively for the government. While some of these may have left the GLS and entered the private sector, it is unlikely that they would work on a pro bono basis and even further unlikely that they would do so for a case a Judge described as being perfectly ordinary. If they were being paid, because of their experience in GLS they would attract top tier fees.

However from a certain perspective I am reasonably sure that Mr Ebert will have set some of the precedents relating to vexatious litigation and litigants, the decision would be likely be cited with his name attached, and it would form part of the common law. However Mr Ebert wouldn't be the author, that would be the Judge.

I'd also imagine that some of the top trainers for the police in common law have likely begun their lectures as part of a prolonged and enforced tour of the custody suites. She is however right on one thing, nothing anyone believes will change the outcome, which is quite sad and I think dangerous.

Also not sure if it counts as backstreet moddin, but can we draw a line under the asking Letissier about GOODF. He seems a decent sort, who's head is screwed on properly and I think we should respect his view to not be critical. We want people from GOODF to start thinking about what they are doing and whether the tactics mooted on that site will work or if they will find themselves in deeper water. We won't achieve that goal if we frighten them off or badger them to a point where posting on here seems like a chore. All we'll do is further an us v them attitude which will prove destructive and divisive as people will grow entrenched in their views and stuck in their foxholes.

I don't doubt that in places of GOODF their are decent tactics for dealing with debt and their is truth in the old saying of any port in a storm. We've had people from GOODF posting here before and we've kept it civil, Letissier is more than welcome and we should invite his views and opinion which have just as much value as any other members.
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Re: UK - Tom Crawford Calls For Help

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rumpelstilzchen wrote:
Bones wrote:
rumpelstilzchen wrote:Hopefully the video should bring more visitors to this site. No such thing as bad publicity. Thankyou to Ceylon and his sidekick.
Who is his side kick ? He is in most of the Ceylon clips but I don't know who he is
I have no idea. His driver? His significant other? His minder? Who knows? Who cares? :lol:
Just seems a little weird, two guys sitting in a car in the middle of a grave yard, talking about people exposing themselves and appearing to be really enjoying it

At least Ceylon and his significant other were kind enough to confirm that they have helped and supported Tom. Just a shame that they helped and supported him to lose his home
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rumpelstilzchen wrote:Part of a post made on Facebook today by Amanda Pike:
What people who don't believe us need to fully understand is that the team of people behind the scenes helping us, are of an extremely high calibre....were not talking a bunch of riff raff that have just poled up off the street and offered help and have no idea what they are doing and we are blindly following them.
These people are AMAZING.....experts within their own fields some have written actual laws and others are the highest authority in the land for case laws we are using, forensic expert, common law experts, some having been the top trainers for the police in common law. And more! We are not fools we fully understand the document and its meaning as does walker morris and the judge. If you dont believe thats honestly okay I hand on heart mean that. because it doesn't change the outcome for us. You'll just have to wait and see but thats your choice.
Well....they have people on their team who have written "actual laws"..........plus people who are the highest authority in the land for case law........hmmmmm. I'm not too sure I believe that......
That's what you get when you listen to the Learned Ebert. :brickwall:
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Re: UK - Tom Crawford Calls For Help

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Bones wrote:
guilty wrote:http://getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewt ... 56#p385656

That's not fair! How come it's just you 4 guys that get a mention? There's more than just you.
I demand recognition!
Is there someone I can make a complaint too, I might be new here, compared to some but I thought I deserved a mention at least :Axe:
The Rat Bags....I may be small and inoffensive , being left out is mean. :snicker:
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Re: UK - Tom Crawford Calls For Help

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I believe the other gentleman used to have a YouTube account under the pseudonym KingAbdullahKey, which is possibly where the Kak name came out about, it's an abbreviation to save time on typing. I don't know much more about him than that.

He was a regular feature of Ceylons videos for quite some time but vanished around the time Ceylon began to promote Mickey Summers in his anti-Nottingham Council agenda. His YouTube was deleted and I thought he'd left the scene. He reappeared at Tom's second eviction attempt and it seems is back to old tricks. At the time I can recall Ceylon saying he had gone off to be re-educated, which sounded reasonably sinister. What Ceylon meant by that is unknown to me although I would speculate that he was either at a spiritual retreat, in hospital or in prison.

Since they are reading here, and obviously fans of my writing given how frequently they quoted it (and they did name check me, don't be jealous guilty and Loren, we appreciate your contribution and you are a valued part of the team) I feel I should explain the pun in the thread title. You see Quatloos has rules on the title of a forum thread in this subforum, which is that you need to place the country name in. At the same time I like to make my titles a little more interesting and descriptive. Therefore "Ceylon" is the subject name "the UK's" lets forum users know which country we are dealing with (this is the international - read not America or Canada) "top GOODFer nothing" is to indicate that Ceylon has set himself up as a leader on Get Out Of Debt Free and that he isn't at all useful. At the same time I also thought it sounded funny and read well. Have to say it gives me quite the jollies to hear the subjects of my threads reading the titles out. Any chance you could get Ebert to read his title on a video Mark for me? Or Guy?
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rumpelstilzchen wrote:
Bones wrote:
rumpelstilzchen wrote:Hopefully the video should bring more visitors to this site. No such thing as bad publicity. Thankyou to Ceylon and his sidekick.
Who is his side kick ? He is in most of the Ceylon clips but I don't know who he is
I have no idea. His driver? His significant other? His minder? Who knows? Who cares? :lol:
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I wonder what 'Dr' Ebert charges an hour for forensically analysing court documents? From what I have gathered Guy Taylor introduced Tom Crawford Ebert.And taylor was "trained" by him.
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Re: UK - Tom Crawford Calls For Help

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Who is his side kick ? He is in most of the Ceylon clips but I don't know who he is[/quote]
I have no idea. His driver? His significant other? His minder? Who knows? Who cares? :lol:[/quote]

Just seems a little weird, two guys sitting in a car in the middle of a grave yard, talking about people exposing themselves and appearing to be really enjoying it

At least Ceylon and his significant other were kind enough to confirm that they have helped and supported Tom. Just a shame that they helped and supported him to lose his home[/quote]

They on occasion have another character with them, he has the demeanour (sp?) of a Victorian poet longish flowing locks. :whistle: He and the Bald chap are very theatrical , I wonder who he is?
The concept of filming in Motor cars seems to give them great pleasure. I almost want to try and make a witty comment, but actually Ceylon is an unpleasant and dangerous boil on the Arse of humanity. :Axe:
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Re: UK - Tom Crawford Calls For Help

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guilty wrote:http://getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewt ... 56#p385656

That's not fair! How come it's just you 4 guys that get a mention? There's more than just you.
I demand recognition!
I have to wonder myself. I'm one of the Fab Four yet my contributions to the Ceylon and Crawford discussion have been minimal. Perhaps my inclusion is just a polite recognition of the participation of the colonies.
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It's because you are green, Burnaby49; brighter than the rest of us.

Tom has been posting a thank-you for his "Jubilant Win" on various places, and now at GOODF.

If he has won then I don't know why he wants the media to investigate whether B&B paid various court fees etc.
Tom wrote:When we have a chance a video explaining the REAL meaning of the judges (Godmark) judgement will be made ...
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littleFred wrote:Tom has been posting a thank-you for his "Jubilant Win" on various places, and now at GOODF.
She really is demented this woman.
SalliNae » Sat May 16, 2015 9:12 pm

It is wonderful news ......

It is a truly wonderful outcome and Judge Godsmark, credit where it is due, appears to have reached a fair, albeit obscure from non legalese interpreters point of view, judgment and has made his mark too :)
Yes Sallie, the judgment passed by the judge says Tom Crawford LOST!
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Bones wrote:
guilty wrote:http://getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewt ... 56#p385656

That's not fair! How come it's just you 4 guys that get a mention? There's more than just you.
I demand recognition!
Is there someone I can make a complaint too, I might be new here, compared to some but I thought I deserved a mention at least :Axe:
The utter swine. Would it have killed them to give name-checks to all concerned? I have invested countless hours in mocking their sacred cows, this feels very unfair.
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ArthurWankspittle wrote:It's the UK SovCit answer to Beavis and Butt-head.
That is exactly who I was thinking of, I just couldn't remember their names, I think it was the silly girly sniggering that they do

Image

Could the guy in the passenger seat be Guy Taylor ? :snicker:
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Hercule Parrot wrote: The utter swine. Would it have killed them to give name-checks to all concerned? I have invested countless hours in mocking their sacred cows, this feels very unfair.
HP, I think we will have to start a petition and make some youtube video's. Obviously we are not exposing ourselves nearly enough to get Ceylon and his significant others attention :sarcastic:
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Brian Gerrish of UK Column has somewhat backtracked on his assessment of Tom's case (reported upthread).
Brian Gerrish wrote:We did report on this case, Tom Crawford against Bradford and Bingley, who were trying to repossess his house. There was a little bit of confusion as to what the result of the court case was. We maintain we did report it correctly yesterday. However we do have, hopefully, a clip from a video where you can hear in Tom's own words what exactly took place and what the result from the court hearing was.
They play a video of Tom talking outside his house about his "victory" with no further comment.

No, Brian, you didn't report it correctly. You got it entirely wrong. I can understand you getting the verdict wrong because you stupidly believed Tom who stupidly believed Mr Ebert. But you added to this. You invented, "This means that Tom Crawford has won his case against repossession of his house."

If Tom had won that hearing, it would have merely given him permission to appeal. You invented him winning the case against repossession.