Any Day Now, the Dinar RV Story

[LaVidaRoja]

Really, DK, they've managed to ignore all the times Toni has been wrong about the RV; ignoring a criminal charge and guilty plea is NOTHING for them!

[Jeffrey]

SIL only has one section of the town, and it’s not a big deal.

Tony's version

ISIS executes 262, as it takes ancient Syrian city of Palmyra, group says

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/25/middl ... yra-syria/

Thousands of people who fled the bloody takeover of Ramadi this month have been stuck at Bzeibez bridge which connects Anbar to Baghdad for days having been barred from leaving Anbar.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -Iraq.html

I guess hundreds of dead women and children are no big deal and thousands of refugees are no big deal?

[Gregg]

I guess hundreds of dead women and children are no big deal and thousands of refugees are no big deal?

Well, for a $1 a Dinar RV, we can look the other way on that...

[Alcibiades]

Mountain Goat is a long-time contributor to Dinar Recaps and for a long while was trying to keep up the pretence that she was a lady located in Bavaria, while actually being a US based male. The reference to 'meine kinder' has certainly been getting less frequent these days. He has become something of a thorn in the flesh for Tony and his adherents, often contradicting the nonsense TNT puts out with some of his own.

Anyway, he has recently upset quite a few by suggesting that the RV may now not happen until 2016: inter alia "the constant political bickering and fighting as well as the physical terrorists fighting is constantly trying to tear apart the fabric of Iraq. Why would the currency be revived in this environment?" To counter this, various simpletons repeated Tony's previously stated belief that after the RV, terrorists will find themselves millionaires, throw down their arms and start living large.

This follows the well established principle that fanatics fired with religious zealotry are only too eager to toss all that away for a few quick bucks.

[Gregg]

Mountain Goat's earlier storyline was that her husband was a high placed something or other and she said on more than one occasion that not only had the RV happened, the rate was $3.86 and her husband and she had already cashed out.

Funny how the idiots forget...

[Deep Knight]

Dinar fans busted Mnt Goat in November of 2013 for describing the "local Bavarian" Christmas Market before it was open using prose cut 'n pasted from a tourism website. She/he also makes at least a few mistakes in German, at least one of the sort you get with machine translations ("German" meant as "German language" ("Deutsch") translated as "German person" ("Deutscher"). No one who evern took German in school would make this mistake (with the possible exception of Satan's son-in-law George).

[Deep Knight]

5-29-15 TNT DINAR CC

Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Friday, May 29, 2015. We are here, we are ready, and it’s going to be a super-fantastic day! We have good information for you guys. DC is not here; he is working on a special project this week. Some of you super-informed people have probably figured that out – or not. Those who know his history and background can figure that out. He is once again doing things that are required and helpful in his life and yours. We’ll go from there. We did discuss the information.

We are in a super-super-fantastic situation. The tests all went perfectly, everyone is in agreement, and we are simply waiting on a time. This is not the normal Friday hype Most of the people wanted this to occur on a weekend – preferably t he holiday weekend so there was an extra day. Everyone is looking for something…

Banks still have the rates we have talked about, with no admin hold or pending… just waiting to be told “start your transactions”. Don’t know when that will come. Security managers are having meetings, personnel are on standby, and people have been contacted to say their transactions will be processed in the next 72 hours. Banks are counting currencies, and ready to go. We have seen bank stories in the forum, and some have been told it will be done by today – and today isn’t over yet.
...
It’s all good news. Everyone is saying “Let’s go!” As Ray said, the train is coming to a stop, and people can get off, get on, or go to the next stop. We are waiting for the event, and everyone around the globe is preparing at this time, and it’s within 72 hours. I think everyone is okay with my telling you that, because we didn’t say a specific day or time. In the next 72 hours, this party should begin There is not a lot to say; we just have to wait and that’s what we’ll do.
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Caller: I do have a question about reconciling what we heard about Kurdistan having a rate of 86 cents, and what we see on our screens here. How do you work that out?

Tony: Okie called me on Wednesday and said that he has friends over there, and their MasterCards stopped working. They have been using them here and there, and they stopped working. Yesterday one of my guys called and said their cards were not working either. The bank told them why it wasn’t working, what was going on, and when they will be working again. Adjustments will be made to reflect the current date and time. You know what I’m saying. That is what they just put out to their cardholders, and we’ll see what happens. We are NOT expecting them to be in that lower range, not at all.

Caller: Wimberly, Wimberly, Wimberly… and you guys take care.

Tony: I want to give Okie credit because he did come up with that and tell me that, and our guys gave us the additional information.

CURRENT WINDOW: Tony: There is a window. It is the weekend. Free and clear to go at any time. Window is over the weekend into Monday morning. Sunday morning is the first of June and they wanted it done by then. Looks like it will happen. . . . Should happen within the next 72 hours if not before. Odds this going this time . . .over 95%. It's that 5% that . . .If it goes I think we will go . . . Immediately. . . VEGAS, VEGAS, VEGAS!!!

Wimberly, Wimberly, Wimberly, Vegas, Vegas, Vegas? How 'bout Prison, Prison, Prison!

[Deep Knight]

Nesara News finally has something besides the goat on their RV GCR page!

Tuesday, June 2, 2015
IS THIS WHY THE RV IS NOT BEING RELEASED IN THE UNITED STATES?

DHS Insider: Crisis Of Unprecedented Magnitude To Strike U.S.
Posted by Sean Adl-Tabatabai in Bizarre 1 week ago

If you were to guess that "Bizarre" is a parody new site, you might be right. Then again, Japan might actually be considering a law saying that elevators have to have a toilet in them in case they get stuck for a long time during an earthquake...

A DHS whistleblower has revealed that the agency are planning a “history making” event “unlike anything citizens of the United States have seen before”.
Speaking to the Canada Free Press, he said “According to every internal document I’ve seen and read, and from the few people I’ve spoken with who understand what’s going on, preparations have been finalized to respond to a crisis of unprecedented magnitude within the United States. The response will include the use of lethal force against U.S. citizens under the instructions of Barack Obama”.

The insider is retiring along with many others inside DHS who don’t like what the agency is, in his words “DHS and other organizations have become the private army of the Oval Office.”

Under the cover and amid the distraction of the Christmas bustle, I had my last “official” contact with a source inside the Department of Homeland Security known as “Rosebud” in my writings. My source is leaving his position, retiring along with numerous others choosing to leave this bureaucratic monstrosity.

For this contact, my source took unprecedented measures to be certain that our contact was far off the radar of prying government eyes and ears. I was stunned at the lengths he employed, and even found myself somewhat annoyed by the inconvenience that his cloak-and-dagger approach caused. It was necessary, according to my source, because all department heads under FEMA and DHS are under orders to identify anyone disclosing any information for termination and potential criminal prosecution.

“DHS is like a prison environment, complete with prison snitches,” he said, referring to the search for leaks and leakers. And the warden is obsessed. Ask anyone in DHS. No one trusts anyone else and whatever sources might be left are shutting up. The threats that have been made far exceed anything I’ve ever seen. Good people are afraid for their lives and the lives of their families. We’ve all been threatened. They see the writing on the wall and are leaving. It’s not a joke and not hype.”

The following is a narrative from my source, prefaced with the instructions to “take it or leave it,” and “disregard it at your own peril.” He added that it’s now up to each American to act on the information themselves or suffer the consequences. “I’ve resigned myself to the fact that most [Americans] will never be convinced of the reality that is taking place right in front of them.”

THE PLAN EXPLAINED
“According to every internal document I’ve seen and read, and from the few people I’ve spoken with who understand what’s going on, preparations have been finalized to respond to a crisis of unprecedented magnitude within the United States. The response will include the use of lethal force against U.S. citizens under the instructions of Barack Obama.” But why?
“‘It’s the economy, stupid,’” he began, paraphrasing a campaign slogan coined by James Carville for Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign. “Just as I disclosed in our first meeting, the crisis will be rooted in an economic collapse. I told you last year, at a time when gold and silver were setting record highs, one specific indicator that time is very short. It is the final ‘smack down’ of the metals, gold and silver, that will presage the orchestrated economic collapse that is being planned by the bankers of Wall Street. Everybody needs to understand that this is a deliberate collapse of the U.S. economy with the oversight of the White House and the full knowledge of the Justice Department. Everyone seems to be waiting for some big, history making event that will signal the start of the collapse. The fact is that the collapse has already started. It’s incremental, like a snowball rolling down a hill. It gets bigger and rolls faster. Well, this snowball is well on its way down the hill.”

“I don’t mean to sound repetitive, but I can’t stress this enough. Contrary to what you hear, we’re already in an economic collapse, except that most people haven’t a clue. The ‘big bang’ comes at the end, when people wake up one morning and can’t log in to their bank accounts, can’t use their ATM cards, and find out that their private pension funds and other assets have been confiscated,” he stated.

“I’ve seen documentation of multiple scenarios created outside of DHS. Different plans and back-up plans. Also, please understand that I deliberately used the word ‘created,’ as this is a completely manufactured event. In the end it won’t be presented that way, which is extremely important for everyone to understand. What is coming will be blamed on some unforeseen event out of everyone’s control, that few saw coming or thought would actually happen. Then, another event will take place concurrent with this event, or immediately after it, to confuse and compound an already explosive situation.” I asked for specifics.

“As I said, there are several scenarios and I don’t know them all. I know one calls for a cyber-attack by an external threat, which will then be compounded by something far removed from everyone’s own radar. But it’s all a ruse, or a pretext. The threat is from within,” he stated. “Before people can regain their footing, a second event will be triggered.” Again, I asked for specifics.

“I’ve seen one operational plan that refers to the federal government’s response to a significant terrorist attack on U.S. soil. Information at these levels is compartmentalized. I don’t have specifics, just plans for the response. The response will be controls and restrictions on travel, business, and every aspect of our lives, especially gun ownership and speech that incites people against the government. I guess some people would call it Martial Law, and they would not be incorrect. But understand that this will be a process deployed in stages. How quickly of a process remains to be seen.”

THE MECHANICS EXPLAINED
As I said, people continue to look for something big to happen first, followed by a militaristic response by the federal government against U.S. citizens. Based on what I’ve seen, I don’t believe it will happen this way, although there is one unthinkable exception. That exception would involve a ‘decapitation’ of our leadership, but I’ve seen nothing even remotely suggestive of that. But I’ve heard and even read articles where that is mentioned. Frankly, though, that’s always been a threat. I suppose that if the leadership is deemed useless, or becomes a liability to the larger agenda in some manner, it could happen. The precedent exists. Let’s pray that it’s not the case now.”

“I don’t think anyone except the initiated few know the precise series of events or the exact timing, just a general overview and an equally general time period. I think we’re in that period now, as DHS has their planned responses finalized. Also, the metals are important because it’s real money, not Ponzi fiat currency. The U.S. has no inventory of gold, so the prices are manipulated down to cause a sell-off of the physical assets. China is on a buying spree of gold, and other countries want their inventory back. The very people causing the prices to drop are the ones who are also buying the metals at fire sale prices. They will emerge extremely wealthy when the prices rise after the U.S. currency becomes wallpaper. A little research will identify who these people and organizations are.”

“I’d like to add a bit of perspective that might help explain the events as I described. Do you remember former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld announcing that the Pentagon was unable to account for $2.3 trillion in the defense budget? That was on September 10, 2001, the day before the attacks of 9/11. Some suggest that 9/11 was orchestrated, in part to cover up the missing money, which is ludicrous. The result, however, was that suddenly the accounting issue took a back seat because of the attacks. The result will be the same. That’s a perfect example of the mechanics of what we are about to experience. It’s going to take years to sort out, and when it’s finally sorted out, the damage will have long been done.”

“Please note a few final things. The relationship that exists between DHS today and the executive branch is well beyond alarming. DHS and other organizations have become the private army of the Oval Office. The NSA, and I’ve got contacts there, is taking orders from the Oval Office. The IRS is under the virtual control of the Oval Office in a manner that would make Nixon cower. Even though all roads appear to lead to the Oval Office, they lead through the Oval Office. It’s not just Obama, but the men behind him, the people who put him there. The people who put him there are the ones who created him.” I asked who created him.
“First, ask yourself why there was such an all out effort to marginalize anyone talking about Obama’s eligibility in 2008. Even so-called conservatives pundits fell for the lie that such questions were nothing more than a diversion. They were following a specific drumbeat. That should tell every rational adult that he is a creation of the globalists who have no allegiance to any political party. He is the product of decades of planning, made for this very time in our history. He was selected to oversee the events I just disclosed. Who has that ability? He’s a product of our own intelligence agencies working with the globalists. He should be exhibit ‘A’ to illustrate the need to enforce the Logan Act. Need I say more?”

As often said by another of my sources, the U.S. is a captured operation. The lie is bigger than most people realize or are willing to confront. That is, until there is no other option. By then, it might be too late.

Posted by Freewill at 6:19 PM

You might remember Sean Adl-Tabatabai (yeah, right) from another Bizarre article posted on Nesara News a few months ago, "I Was In The Illuminati I’m Going To Tell You Everything, Shocking Expose." This was the article that went on and on about Illuminati Bunkers (in my house we call this a "rec room").

[thunter]

FBI Raids Sterling Currency Group

Looks like Sterling, who TNT Tony shills for, is in a bit of hot water.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/fb ... ess/nmTf5/

[Alcibiades]

Yes, it caused quite a commotion on the TNT forums and elsewhere. There was even speculation that Tony had ratted Sterling out as part of a plea bargain for his current fraud charges.

Of course there was the predictable weeping and gnashing of teeth that so-called 'reserves' which Sterling held for cash-strapped Dinarians were under threat. That part of their business model sounded the most shady of all. I am unfamiliar with US Federal or State laws, but I understood that dealers needed special licencing to sell certain types of currency which is not internationally traded (such as Dinars) except for numismatic purposes. And what numismatic collector puts large amounts of currency aside for later purchase?

[thunter]

If I were "Adam Montana" with his VIP scam, I'd be checking out property in a non-extradition country like Morocco!

The FBI generally doesn't knock down doors for a fishing expedition. All these "gurus" should be worried.

[Gregg]

On the subject of selling reserves, I have yet to find any way to deny that these would in effect be futures contracts and as such be subject to regulation. The "special licensing" needed to sell currency not openly traded isn't quite what it it. Anyone can sell numismatic items as such, and that is one loophole to sell dinar, but not because its some exotic currency, which it arguably is, but by calling what you're selling collectibles, you get around the whole selling an investment thing that requires a Series 6 or 7 license. This is also why banks quit selling dinar, banks, when they do so, sell currency as a service to customers mostly for them to use when they travel or are buying something from overseas that they want to pay for in cash. They most certainly DO NOT sell it as in investment, and if you want to speculate in foreign currencies, they would do that through a subsidiary specifically licensed to sell investment advice, again, we're back to regulated investment professionals. When banks became aware that people were exchanging Dinar at their everyday teller windows with the expectation of it raising in value, they quit doing it to protect themselves from charges later that they were selling investments at a commercial bank, which those kind of banks (banks that most people think of as banks, with savings and checking accounts, auto loans etc...) are specifically forbidden to do. And those banks were incredibly slow in finding out that this was going on, it started in 2004 and they just got out of it in the last 5 years.

The "special license" you speak of, and Dinar dealers do for the most part have, is a Money Service Business Registration, which is not in fact a license of any kind, its as the name implies a simple registration, you fill out the form, pay the fee, and a week later you get a certificate in the mail and are now entitled to issue money orders, process bill payments and exchange currency, along with a few other things. They are also, like banks, specifically forbidden to offer or sell investments or investment advice, which most of them make some effort to officially hold to, although a lot of winks and nods are going on there. And again, how can they sell "reserves" and that not be a Futures Contract is beyond my power to understand.

[texino]

Could it be the day when the lumbling beast freezes ,cracks and crumbles?

[Jeffrey]

God damn they took their sweet time raiding these sons of bitches.

People act like these agencies are like in the movies yet they only get off their asses after this scam was active for how many years?

[Pottapaug1938]

Could it be the day when the lumbling beast freezes ,cracks and crumbles?

I'm sure that there is some small-time scammer, somewhere, who is looking for some street cred in Wacko World, and will take up the RV cudgel, saying that the raids were the desperate attempt of [insert your villain of choice here] to stop the RV and prevent global prosperity.

[Nellie]

Or the villain could be none other than TNT Tony. After all, why do 20 years when you can snitch on your previous employer, Sterling, and receive a paltry one year sentence?

A couple months ago TNT was sporting a Sterling logo and one day was no longer there. His sidekick, DC, twisted off a couple of weeks ago and his business, AeroCenTex, is closed.

And the plot thickens.....

[thunter]

It's hard to discourage "dinarians," though. Their religion is faith based, not grounded in reality. When their theology no longer fits their life situation, they simply reject reality.

[Jeffrey]

Guys, the FBI Dinar thing is bigger than Thunter originally led me to believe.

Remember James Mendez, Dinar dealer in Puerto Rico, I discussed in this post:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9833&p=167493&hilit=mendez#p167493

His business was also raided by the FBI as part of the sting thunter mentioned:

http://www.elnuevodia.com/noticias/segu ... s-2055394/

To refresh ya'lls memory, Mendez' income from Dinar sales was estimated at $5 million in 2008, by now it is easily in the tens of millions. This guy is huge, he has TV shows pushing the dinar, radio shows pushing the dinar, dinar businesses, dinar cooperatives. He's been active over a decade, he's the first person I know to have pushed the Dinar scam. Local authorities for years claimed that his business was completely legitimate and he was untouchable.

Thank you FBI.

[LightinDarkness]

I do find it interesting how all of the events coincided timing wise:

(1) Tony changes to a guilty plea and takes a deal. Only gets 1 year in jail, which is really good considering what he was looking at.
(2) Winston mysteriously disappears from Tony's conference calls. Tony claims Winston's absence is only temporary, but I can see Tony saying in a month or so that Winston has been shut up by The Dark Cabal.
(3) Sterling, the dealer Tony pumped for, gets raided.

Now, I am not optimistic about jail time for the currency dealers. They have made to much money now, they can buy the best lawyers possible. And with that kind of money, they've probably also been hiding away assets professionally for years. But we can always hope.

The currency dealers gave the appearance that they were simply in the business of "exotic collectible currency" to the outside world. But behind the scenes, they were actively pumping the RV scam. I'm pretty sure that is fraud - since no one buying the currency was doing it for collectible reasons, but because they thought they'd get rich. And the dealers knew this. But I can see how it would be hard to prove that to a sufficient burden of proof evidence standard.

What amazes me, but should not, is how the dinar community still just keeps on believing. Its just like the journey song - don't stop believing. Even after their major guru pleads guilty to felony fraud charges, and even after their main dealer is raided by the FBI, they act like all is well and the RV will be any day now. I know that is because none of this was ever grounded in reality, but the dinar true believers ability to reject reality is just astounding.

[LightinDarkness]

To refresh ya'lls memory, Mendez' income from Dinar sales was estimated at $5 million in 2008, by now it is easily in the tens of millions. This guy is huge, he has TV shows pushing the dinar, radio shows pushing the dinar, dinar businesses, dinar cooperatives. He's been active over a decade, he's the first person I know to have pushed the Dinar scam. Local authorities for years claimed that his business was completely legitimate and he was untouchable.

Great information! This confirms then that the raid was about dinar selling, and not some other criminal misconduct unrelated to the pumping. I thought at first the FBI be raiding Sterling based on the later, but if they've hit other larger dealers then the common thread is dinar selling. That is great news, maybe we will have an actual trial about the entire RV scam.

Even if we do though, it won't stop the gurus and conference calls. Like I said on Fogbow, the RV scam is like hydra - cut off one head and it just grows back.