UK - Tom Crawford Calls For Help

[fat frank]

if the land registery do have a hearing, I can see it now, Ceylon and tom will be saying "even the land register believe we have won and want BB to prove in court they own the property"

[Silly Ebert]

tml69,

The original warrant does not expire until mid Dec2015, suspension know lifted and re-issue of this warrant makes it live and ready for use.
The land registry trick will not delay anything. Now watch this space guys.

[Bones]

So procedurally Tom's case is interesting.
I'm guessing the original warrant has now expired although it's impossible to know if they have applied for renewal yet.

In any event in my experience many courts take 6 weeks or so to arrange a bailiffs appointment and more so if there are any special arrangements to be made.

What is interesting is the mention of a Land Registry Application. This is an old strategy to attack the registration of the charge on a technicality rather than deal with the County Court proceedings. What I'm guessing they've done is file form AP1 asking that the charge is removed. The Land Registry will require confirmation from the Lender that the charge has been paid off. Or a Court order directing it be removed. Obviously that won't be forthcoming so in theory the Land Registrar could list a hearing to determine what is going on or strike out the application.

What is curious is there is no application lodged against the Day List under Tom's title number (NT231862). This records pending applications. I'm not sure if an application to remove a mortgage would show up but I'm guessing it would.

This means either the application has not yet been made or has been made and already concluded (either by being granted or dismissed).

I have no knowledge of what the County Courts approach to such an application would be and what effect it would have on an eviction. If you use the analogy of s84(9) of the 1925 Act that specifically allows the Court to stay cases pending the outcome of tribunal matters.

My general experience of mortgage cases is that DJs have wide powers to suspend possession and if they possibly can tend to use them. After all if the is sufficient equity in the property it's no real loss to the lender to hang on for a bit longer.

I think Tom might be engaging in an elaborate delaying tactic by doing the Land Registry route and it might just work, at least for a bit. Last time I checked it too about 6 weeks for the Land Registry to reply to a letter so that gives you an idea of time scales. No one seems to realise how slow the Courts a similar bodies are. So taking delay as a sign of success is misguided.

This has an air of that thread on the Consumer Action Group website were unsuccessful applications were made to the property chamber

[Bones]

http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/v ... 20#p397816



"lets see if he is man enough to admit he was wrong"

Mark, when have you ever been man enough to admit you was wrong about anything ? Considering you are wrong about pretty much everything, you would spend the rest of your life admitted you was wrong -

[Tml69]

tml69,

The original warrant does not expire until mid Dec2015, suspension know lifted and re-issue of this warrant makes it live and ready for use.
The land registry trick will not delay anything. Now watch this space guys.

Legally speaking a vexatious application to the Land Reg shouldn't cause any delay but based on how risk adverse lenders are and how borrower friendly some DDJs are it could buy a bit of time.

[Tml69]

This has an air of that thread on the Consumer Action Group website were unsuccessful applications were made to the property chamber

Yeah they relied on some complicated but very flawed arguments about scintilla temporis etc. Applecart (now on goodf) was the "guru" behind it. Ended up costing a lot of people lots of money.

The whole thing is fundamentally flawed even if the arguments were valid (which they aren't) because the mortgage is both a contract and a legal charge. If you get rid of the charge you still have an equitable mortgage and a personal debt which can be secured against property. It's literally academic.

[FatGambit]

tml69,

The original warrant does not expire until mid Dec2015, suspension know lifted and re-issue of this warrant makes it live and ready for use.

Is that because the suspension period was added back on once the warrant was reactivated? I wondered that myself.

What I mean is, for example, a warrant is issued in January, expires December 31st, it's susended while an appeal is head, the appeal is heard in march and rejected, so now the warrant is reactivated and subsequently expires on 31st March the next year not the original december 31st?

[JonnyL]

the bailiffs have arrived this morning i believe.

[Losleones]

Excellent. Do you have a link?

[JonnyL]

Excellent. Do you have a link?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/5311314 ... 6/?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/groups/CA3debt/?fref=ts


Karl Knight
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Elisabeth Nolson
Can as many people as possible get to Tom Crawford at Carlton in Nottingham the bailiffs have turned up even after the judge agreed there were errors made by the bank
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[#six]

Excellent. Do you have a link?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/5311314 ... 6/?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/groups/CA3debt/?fref=ts


Karl Knight
11 mins
Elisabeth Nolson
Can as many people as possible get to Tom Crawford at Carlton in Nottingham the bailiffs have turned up even after the judge agreed there were errors made by the bank
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Its about time. So this is what a "win" looks like then

[JonnyL]

They've timed it perfectly, just as everyone was scratching their arses wondering if tom had paid it off and his cronies were certain of victory.... knock knock.

[Losleones]

Ceylon & his foot soldiers better get mobile phones charged, masks at the ready & get over there to perform common law arrests of bailiffs & police officers & provide documentation of their "win"

[#six]

Ceylon & his foot soldiers better get mobile phones charged, masks at the ready & get over there to perform common law arrests of bailiffs & police officers & provide documentation of their "win"

This could be interesting

Kai Holloway: Sneaky rotten dirty .... Police station will now be seized!

[JonnyL]

emergency broadcast will be here apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_Sh8vikx6M

[#six]

Kai Holloway: By all accounts police have shit road off so you can't get to

I think he means shut

Good plan.

Anna Samantha Deacon: Just seen a pic, its crawling with cops!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

[fat frank]

does any one know if Guy taylor will be getting his fees now,

[Syf]

does any one know if Guy taylor will be getting his fees now,

I thought he worked on a "No win No fee basis"

[fat frank]

does any one know if Guy taylor will be getting his fees now,

I thought he worked on a "No win No fee basis"

but they won

[longdog]

I look forward to the YouToob video of the eviction happening explaining how the eviction never happened.