Ouch!daveBeeston wrote:I've had a conversation with an former auctioneer from John Pye's today about this situation and what would happen should there be disruption and they said they have heard of it happening before and that caused the lot to be withdrawn and then sold via closed biding which saw the seller accept just 60% of the price they wanted.
If they do disrupt the auction not only will they get themselves into trouble/arrested but they will cost Tom even more money(unless B&B decide to write off any losses from the auction).
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Hercule Parrot wrote:Hilarious - over on "Eviction the fraud of the bank" the muppets are discussing obstructing the auction and harassing bidders. They don't seem to realise that they're acting directly against TC's interests. If they drive the sale price down then the bank will still get most of what it's owed, but there will be nothing left for Mr & Mrs C.
One GOODFer has already showed up at the moving company that carted off Crawford's furniture to harass the owner. It would be true to form for the dysfunctional little cult to mess with the auction and its bidders.daveBeeston wrote:I've had a conversation with an former auctioneer from John Pye's today about this situation and what would happen should there be disruption and they said they have heard of it happening before and that caused the lot to be withdrawn and then sold via closed biding which saw the seller accept just 60% of the price they wanted.
If they do disrupt the auction not only will they get themselves into trouble/arrested but they will cost Tom even more money(unless B&B decide to write off any losses from the auction).
If it all comes back badly on Crawford, they will say it isn't their fault, but rather the fault of yada. . . yada. . . yada powers that be.
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If that happened to Tom's bungalow, for one it would be a ridiculous steal and for two I would think it wouldn't cover the amounts owed to UKAR by the Crawfords. Tom's helpers could get him to be bankrupt on top of being homeless. Of course this won't stop them from doing it because they are so set in the stupid that they can't see that the consequences of what they are doing won't help Tom.
It's a bit like watching Lemmings hurl themselves off a cliff (except for the fact that Lemmings are smart enough to know better than to hurl themselves off cliffs - that was a rumour started because of a film shot by the Disney corporation).
What exactly do they think would happen if they stopped the auctioneers from selling Tom's place in an open auction? That the bank will just go "Oh well, we can't possibly sell this place for any amount of money, why don't we give it back to that poor couple?" instead of "We don't care what price, ditch the reserve and just get rid of it, it's toxic and has cost us enough already".
My guess is they will always take B because B gets them something while A gets them screwed.
It's a bit like watching Lemmings hurl themselves off a cliff (except for the fact that Lemmings are smart enough to know better than to hurl themselves off cliffs - that was a rumour started because of a film shot by the Disney corporation).
What exactly do they think would happen if they stopped the auctioneers from selling Tom's place in an open auction? That the bank will just go "Oh well, we can't possibly sell this place for any amount of money, why don't we give it back to that poor couple?" instead of "We don't care what price, ditch the reserve and just get rid of it, it's toxic and has cost us enough already".
My guess is they will always take B because B gets them something while A gets them screwed.
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The 2 things i can think off, all filmed at a pub no less, a short clip showing that the paperwork used by the bailiffs was illegal so it was an unlawful eviction or Tom going through every bank statement show that they paid all 300 interest payments so the eviction was unlawful.Silly Ebert wrote:Someone on facebooks efotb has had the cheek to ask weather Tom won his case or not.
Just wait guys Tom has maybe a new revelation
Tom Crawford. Hi Mark, your post is so of the mark it's so untrue. just wait 24 hours and then let me know if you hold the same opinion - You'll get a great insight into it all:)
You can 100% guarantee that they will say unlawful eviction or illegal eviction.
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In this video Crawford (after a little snivel over his dog) tells us he was two hours into his journey when he got the phone#six wrote: It was definitely tom. I watched another video from a different angle and most def Tom in the driving seat. I'll see if I can track down the video.Here you go.
https://youtu.be/R5BvJ1KKbzE?t=3m48s
call about the removal van and bailiffs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4H8yYwDP3o
CEYLON AT HIS BEST >>>
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Hainings arrest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2MI07tVoh0
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Hainings arrest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2MI07tVoh0
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PeanutGallery wrote:If that happened to Tom's bungalow, for one it would be a ridiculous steal and for two I would think it wouldn't cover the amounts owed to UKAR by the Crawfords. Tom's helpers could get him to be bankrupt on top of being homeless. Of course this won't stop them from doing it because they are so set in the stupid that they can't see that the consequences of what they are doing won't help Tom.
It's a bit like watching Lemmings hurl themselves off a cliff (except for the fact that Lemmings are smart enough to know better than to hurl themselves off cliffs - that was a rumour started because of a film shot by the Disney corporation).
What exactly do they think would happen if they stopped the auctioneers from selling Tom's place in an open auction? That the bank will just go "Oh well, we can't possibly sell this place for any amount of money, why don't we give it back to that poor couple?" instead of "We don't care what price, ditch the reserve and just get rid of it, it's toxic and has cost us enough already".
My guess is they will always take B because B gets them something while A gets them screwed.
The next act in this farrago of idiocy is inevitable, pointlessly bankrupting yourself is the final stage in the process of qualifying for the Goodfernowt legal team. It proves commitment to the cause and frankly it couldn't happen to a more deserving bloke. He's proved beyond all reasonable doubt that he's not just an amiable old fool being led around by devious morons but a culpable part of the whole bloody con. That harpy of a daughter of his will be screaming fraud and all the other sad sacks rallying to the flag will be canon fodder for the crooks trying to usher in the revolution to bring down the banks and the police so love and honour are free to ensure no one ever has to suffer like this again. That seems to be the illusion which rattles around their empty little heads in between bingo and the pub. I'd like to see their faces if it ever did come about only to find their leaders have started walking on two legs and moving into the old boss' mansions.
What shouldn't be inevitable but is looking increasingly likely is that someone will get hurt and hurt badly.
They're whipping up the rabble and they don't care what happens, in fact I think they'd love to see a few people seriously injured & a fatality or two would be like winning the lottery in the bid to light the fire that will raze the system. And these idiots think they've got what it takes to make the world a better place. The same people who delete and block anyone who tries to post the truth on any of their forums. Imagine what would happen to anyone who stood up at one of their meetings and pointed out the lies Ceylon, O'Bernicia , Taylor et al are feeding them. I doubt they'd get out without a good kicking. Lovely people.
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Lets also not forget that Tom Crawford probably enjoys being relatively famous, up until now he's led a life of obscurity, can any of us name any other famous carpet fitters from north of the Watford Gap? I can't.
Being a GOOF cause must make him feel important and that can be both a boost to the ego and also a very destructive influence. To some extent if he were to suddenly realise that it's all his fault, he'd have to abandon all the people who now claim to be his comrades in arms in his struggle, and that would send him back into obscurity. To some extent he'll feel a pressure to keep following the GOOF advice because if he stops, then who will care what happens to him. At the same time people are taking an interest in what happens to him and (in my opinion very mistakenly) asking his advice.
We can't escape the fact that Tom is a famous figure in this part of the internet, we've had two threads on him and his battle and both have racked up a huge number of posts and views. He won't abandon that fame (or infamy) without a good reason and I think he'll soon be trying to write an ebook to sell his recipe for financial freedom and giving talks up and down the country.
Tom I think started out as a cause and followed some other Guru's learnings but now has come full circle and reached the level of failure where he is looked at as someone who must know what he is talking about, because of how rough a time he's had it. In itself that is a very strange metric to judge the ability of an expert, akin to asking a heart surgeon how many heart attacks they've had. But it seems to be one that GOOFs are drawn towards. Perhaps it's the spirit of some revolution they never took part in, perhaps this is what happens to people who would be communists if that was still a thing in the world, but they seem to mistake the failure of their crackpot theories for an assault by an authority that doesn't actually care if they exist.
Being a GOOF cause must make him feel important and that can be both a boost to the ego and also a very destructive influence. To some extent if he were to suddenly realise that it's all his fault, he'd have to abandon all the people who now claim to be his comrades in arms in his struggle, and that would send him back into obscurity. To some extent he'll feel a pressure to keep following the GOOF advice because if he stops, then who will care what happens to him. At the same time people are taking an interest in what happens to him and (in my opinion very mistakenly) asking his advice.
We can't escape the fact that Tom is a famous figure in this part of the internet, we've had two threads on him and his battle and both have racked up a huge number of posts and views. He won't abandon that fame (or infamy) without a good reason and I think he'll soon be trying to write an ebook to sell his recipe for financial freedom and giving talks up and down the country.
Tom I think started out as a cause and followed some other Guru's learnings but now has come full circle and reached the level of failure where he is looked at as someone who must know what he is talking about, because of how rough a time he's had it. In itself that is a very strange metric to judge the ability of an expert, akin to asking a heart surgeon how many heart attacks they've had. But it seems to be one that GOOFs are drawn towards. Perhaps it's the spirit of some revolution they never took part in, perhaps this is what happens to people who would be communists if that was still a thing in the world, but they seem to mistake the failure of their crackpot theories for an assault by an authority that doesn't actually care if they exist.
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No famous carpet fitters north of the Watford gap but there's a few I could mention dahn sarf.PeanutGallery wrote:Lets also not forget that Tom Crawford probably enjoys being relatively famous, up until now he's led a life of obscurity, can any of us name any other famous carpet fitters from north of the Watford Gap...
... a good reason and I think he'll soon be trying to write an ebook to sell his recipe for financial freedom and giving talks up and down the country.
Tom I think started out as a cause and followed some other Guru's learnings but now has come full circle and reached the level of failure where he is looked at as someone who must know what he is talking about, because of how rough a time he's had it. In itself that is a very strange metric to judge the ability of an expert, akin to asking a heart surgeon how many heart attacks they've had. But it seems to be one that GOOFs are drawn towards. Perhaps it's the spirit of some revolution they never took part in, perhaps this is what happens to people who would be communists if that was still a thing in the world, but they seem to mistake the failure of their crackpot theories for an assault by an authority that doesn't actually care if they exist.
On the plus side Tom and his ilk provide hours of entertainment with their bewildering behaviour, like Bedlam but without the entry fee and the horrible smell. Plus the many bargain basement investment property opportunities they offer the entrepreneurial investor, and for all of these things we should be grateful.
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Thanks to our dear friend Hannah Shotbolt (now very stuffed with baby), we have this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-no ... e-33368398
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-no ... e-33368398
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A guru bit him deep, the bite has festered, and now, under the quickening influence of the full moon, he has become one of them! SFX: lightning flash, Vincent Price laughing.PeanutGallery wrote:Lets also not forget that Tom Crawford probably enjoys being relatively famous, up until now he's led a life of obscurity, can any of us name any other famous carpet fitters from north of the Watford Gap? I can't.
Being a GOOF cause must make him feel important and that can be both a boost to the ego and also a very destructive influence. To some extent if he were to suddenly realise that it's all his fault, he'd have to abandon all the people who now claim to be his comrades in arms in his struggle, and that would send him back into obscurity. To some extent he'll feel a pressure to keep following the GOOF advice because if he stops, then who will care what happens to him. At the same time people are taking an interest in what happens to him and (in my opinion very mistakenly) asking his advice.
We can't escape the fact that Tom is a famous figure in this part of the internet, we've had two threads on him and his battle and both have racked up a huge number of posts and views. He won't abandon that fame (or infamy) without a good reason and I think he'll soon be trying to write an ebook to sell his recipe for financial freedom and giving talks up and down the country.
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its prob the same reason that (was it) john harris give, its his ego, as otherwise he is a no body,
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Had an pm from someone I don't know on Facebook and despite Tom losing his court case and then losing his house, people are still not sure what to do!
Facebook user
Hi gordon what is your opinion on the events in Nottingham regarding to crawford
Gordon Letissier
Very sad. No one likes to see someone lose a house
Facebook user
I have been told that this was not actually fraud by the bank and told that you might be able to shed some light on the events leading to this evection
Gordon Letissier
have a read on quatloos - google it
Facebook user
OK thank you for your time pal did message guy taylor with no reply
Gordon Letissier
I doubt if he would reply
Facebook user
He seems to be advising on issues thought he would help me as I dnt know the story of tom and his family
Gordon Letissier
If you need proper legal advice, contact a solicitor
Hamid Rashid
OK thank you just dnt want to fight for somthin I know nothing about as there are ppl telling me not to go to Notts as the crawfords have not be honest
Gordon Letissier
Tom lost his court case but told everyone he won. Have you seen the court judgment
Facebook user
Yes but he said he won and the house was safe for the time being
Gordon Letissier
He was evicted yesterday. take from that what you can
Facebook user
Hi gordon what is your opinion on the events in Nottingham regarding to crawford
Gordon Letissier
Very sad. No one likes to see someone lose a house
Facebook user
I have been told that this was not actually fraud by the bank and told that you might be able to shed some light on the events leading to this evection
Gordon Letissier
have a read on quatloos - google it
Facebook user
OK thank you for your time pal did message guy taylor with no reply
Gordon Letissier
I doubt if he would reply
Facebook user
He seems to be advising on issues thought he would help me as I dnt know the story of tom and his family
Gordon Letissier
If you need proper legal advice, contact a solicitor
Hamid Rashid
OK thank you just dnt want to fight for somthin I know nothing about as there are ppl telling me not to go to Notts as the crawfords have not be honest
Gordon Letissier
Tom lost his court case but told everyone he won. Have you seen the court judgment
Facebook user
Yes but he said he won and the house was safe for the time being
Gordon Letissier
He was evicted yesterday. take from that what you can
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I don't take sides, I read all the facts and then come to my own conclusions
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Now we can put a face to that name.
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Is he taking a shit whilst talking shit?letissier14 wrote:Betie Bert on UK column news saying there was no JUDGMENT
https://youtu.be/imFMBY4l1gw
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The great man has spoken. No, no, no Mr. pony tail you're as culpable as the other clowns.
http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/v ... ZpYzXCkqrU
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No, because that is Mike West from Bastion Radio, not BertieBert. Doazic got it wrong.FatGambit wrote:Now we can put a face to that name.
BertieBert's voice is very different. Listen to him being interviewed on http://outofthebagradio.weebly.com/podc ... d-02062015
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Haining is in deep denial mode regarding Tom.Losleones wrote:The great man has spoken. No, no, no Mr. pony tail you're as culpable as the other clowns.
http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/v ... ZpYzXCkqrU
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Ah thanks littlfred.
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It is quite interesting to observe how the GOOFs will allways revert to default position as soon as they realise they are beat. They know for a fact the Crawfords had mortgage arrears but they have no argument to rebut that so they handwave that one away. They also know that Mrs Crawford stopped making the endowment policy payments. Again, impossible to rebut so more handwaving. The two main reasons the Crawfords lost their home and the GOOFS have nothing to counter them with. So what can they do? They need something. And up pops default mode.. "All mortgage is fraud" "How can you repay a debt with a debt" "Any demand for payment is fraud" etc etc. They completely ignore the pertinent points of the Crawford's court case and instead they rely on the FOTL mantra.
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