It's a statement of the facts. It's based on the evidence. I don't have to jump off a cliff flapping my arms to prove I can't fly, the evidence is there for all to see. We know how gravity and aerodynamics work, we don't need to go down a path which we know can only end one way from the knowledge we have of how the system works. Pay £35 £10 per month, or whatever the current joining fee & ongoing "membership" is, then write out a cheque which will pay off £100,000 mortgage? It's not going to happen any more than if you or I jump off a cliff flapping our arms expecting to fly off into the sunset.pigpot wrote:And you've just demonstrated what I just typed above. Due to "YiamCross" typing the above quoted tract it doesn't become a fact. The way to demonstrate a fact in this case is to join Peter's on-line clan and ask for proof. If it doesn't come then a rat is smelt. Move on from there but making such a claim as the one above is akin to making the same opposite claim that they make. Ask them for proof and if it's not forth coming then begin from there.YiamCross wrote:The WeRe facts are in, it's not a bank, it has no legal standing in fact it is illegal, it has no money nor any source of legal acceptable currency, there is no way a WeRe cheque could be used to settle any debt except between those who will accept Re.
My claim is completely different from their claim because my claim is based on evidence of how the world works. I know they can't produce evidence for their claim because their claim is impossible. The jury is not out until they produce evidence which cannot exist and never will. The verdict is clear and simple, WeRe bank is a con which benefits only one man and those he chooses to share his booty with. Is that clear enough for you?
You are confusing an exchange of value with no exchange. If you mow my lawn and I give you a cutlery set then we have agreed an exchange of value. I benefit from my lawn being cut while I do something else with my time and you benefit from a cutlery set which you consider to be of some use to you.pigpot wrote:Of course a "Re" can be produced by any measure of the meeting of two or more minds. You mow my lawn for the price of a relatively cheap cutlery set and we have a meeting of minds. A contract. An agreement. Call them "Re's", "Spoons", "Plinks and Plonks", as it matters not what you think, it only matters to those in agreement. You fall into ad hominem when you attack people with words such as, "it can never have any value except as an entertaining curiosity to those outside the asylum."YiamCross wrote:Since a Re can be produced by mowing your own lawn or as a by-product of doing your day job it should be obvious that it can never have any value except as an entertaining curiosity to those outside the asylum.
If you mow your own lawn and expect a cutlery set you have a problem.
You mow your own lawn and you benefit from using your time to do something you consider needs doing. You put down the hours you work at the job you benefit from by being paid in real money. There's no benefit to anyone else for mowing your own lawn, why would you expect to get paid in any currency of value to anyone else? Maybe your wife puts a gold star up on the chart and when you get enough you get lucky but who else is going to care? The only person who benefits from the work you do in your job is the person who's already paying you for that benefit, why would you expect to get paid again by a world which receives no benefit? Sounds suspiciously like this "double dipping" thing that freemen are always banging on about and that's fraud!
Please, you're the one who's so keen on evidence, where do I say anything about having people locked up? I didn't and you're making an assumption with no evidence. Sure, I believe you have to be mad to subscribe to WeRe bank and expect to pay off your debts in spite of all the hard evidence that it's impossible The parade of lunatics dancing to doom reminds me of the stories of Bedlam, it's truly amazing to me how crazy these people are acting but I've never at any point said they need to be locked up. Peter of England does because he's perpetrating a criminal act of fraud. Hope that sets you straight.pigpot wrote:What bothers me a little is that you come across as if it's okay to lock people up if they don't think "straight". That idea that if people aren't following the herd then it's okay to use force against them to do so. I may be wrong but I'll let you set me straight on that before I make an assumption. I'll give you first response, due process, keeping it civil and all.
I don't know. It's not my role to tell you what is and what isn't.[/quote]pigpot wrote:YiamCross wrote:What part of that sounds foolish?
But that's exactly what you did in your post and I quote your words.
So there you go, I've produced the facts and you're the one with all the assumptions. You're the one who sounds foolish and that's not me saying that, they're your words.pigpot wrote: Every adult knows where assumptions lead. Same as opinions. They are worthless.Let's stick to the facts. Let's all get some "WeRE" facts first, otherwise we all sound foolish.
Are you a member of WeRe bank? Can you produce some evidence that any debt has been paid off? I mean verifiable documentary evidence, not just something someone you know or someone who stood up at one of PoE's meetings stood up and said.
Or is the fact no one is flying their own fault for not flapping their arms hard enough, because that's what it sounds like PoE is saying to all who complain their cheques aren't clearing.
