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[Pottapaug1938]

If you have something to say please say it instead of asking a long list of questions.

He has nothing to say, which is why he asks the long list of questions.

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It's a very simple thing. Regardless of disagreement, "Wes" has stepped up and posted on the Marc Stevens site. That's good if not a great thing. At least some people can examine the way in which people "think" "THINGS" work. Some people attribute magical stuff to others that mere mortals cannot do. Prove it to me...

Hey pigpot, did you used to host "twenty questions" on the radio/ TV ?
Btw, you are right to question where a judge gets his power from no one facking knows mate, they'll try to tell you its the government or some such, fact it it was seized from the common man by Baron Knights and the like.
Do you know anything about Rail Penalty Fares cock ?

[pigpot]

Do you know anything about Rail Penalty Fares cock ?

They are the same as "unicorns". Does that help?

[pigpot]

Anyway... what about this guy. I mean WHAT a "Judge" this guy is eh! What a terrific moustache and intellect to go with it. Great work keep it up. At least "we" have people like this guy presiding over what limitations he will place on societies. Bloody good I say.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -bags.html

What a transcript and this level of servitude is excellent:

Jon Turner (JT): My Lord, the position remains that

My emphasis added. "My Lord..."

I wouldn't demean myself to any level like that.

'SHALL I ORDER YOUR CHIEF EXECUTIVE TO APPEAR IN COURT TODAY?' TRANSCRIPT OF JUDGE'S ASTONISHING RANT AT BA OVER HIS LUGGAGE

Mr Justice Peter Smith (PS): Right, Mr Turner, here is a question for you. What happened to the luggage?

Jon Turner (JT): My Lord, the position remains that set out in the letter from Slaughter and May of 15 July, that we are not dealing with that as parties in these proceedings.

PS: I am asking you: what has happened to the luggage?

JT: My Lord, so far as the parties to these proceedings, including Slaughter and May as the representative of British Airways for these proceedings, are concerned, we have said, and we maintain, that we are not getting involved because we trust that that will be dealt with expeditiously, in the ordinary course of events

PS: In that case, do you want me to order your chief executive to appear before me today?

JT: I do not wish your Lordship to do that; and I would say, if your Lordship will permit me to develop my submissions, that that would be an inappropriate mixture of a personal dispute --

PS: What is inappropriate is the continued failure of your clients to explain a simple question, namely, what happened to the luggage? It has been two weeks since that happened now. Or are you saying that if I had a piece of luggage that was just lost, that would lead me to recuse myself from the case?

JT: I am not saying that, my Lord. If I may, I will develop the submissions on this because --

PS: No, I want an answer to my question. If you are not going to --

JT: In that case, let me answer both of those questions. I am not saying that a mere dispute over mislaid luggage of your Lordship's would itself, in itself, be grounds for recusal. Our position, as set out in the submissions that we have made and the letters, is that this dispute extends beyond a mere dispute about mislaid luggage.

Secondly, in relation to the overlap between the personal dispute and the litigation before your Lordship, we say that no linkage should be made, because that contributes to the impression of bias.

PS: If the dispute over the luggage had gone to litigation, you are not saying I shouldn't have told the parties in this litigation of that dispute, are you? I just find that an impossible submission. I just wonder what thunderbolts would have come in my direction if your solicitors had found out that I was in a dispute with BA and not told them, and BA didn't know of my connection with this litigation and I commenced proceedings against BA, and then I suddenly tell your lawyers that: oh, by the way, I am suing your clients. Are you seriously suggesting there isn't a necessary linkage that has got to be ventilated?

JT: Our position, my Lord, is that where your Lordship initiates a personal dispute with British Airways -

PS: I didn't initiate a personal dispute. BA's associated company retained my luggage. It is not my fault that that happened. I am the victim. I read the whole of your correspondence. The more I read it, I got the impression that BA was trying to portray itself of the victim of this case and being oppressed by wicked Mr Justice Peter Smith. It is just ridiculous.

The reason I called you and Mr Harris and your lawyers in was that I wanted to head off a situation whereby it would escalate out of control and lead to the present application.

JT: My Lord, I do understand that and this is not a criticism of your Lordship's motivations in any way.

...

PS: As far as I am concerned, the key fact in this case is: what happened to the luggage; and your clients know what happened to the luggage and they are not telling me. And your solicitors and you are deliberately not asking. Your reasons might be as you say, but what is being withheld from me is what is the key point in this issue, by the people who seek to recuse me from the case

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PS: Now, I am entitled, therefore, to know, because if there is -- and I have always made this position clear; if there is a perfectly understandable operational reason as to why the whole of the flights' luggage was left behind in Florence -- note, the whole of the flight, not just mine, the whole of the flights' luggage was left behind -- if it was for perfectly reasonable operational reasons, then I will accept that. That has been my stance ever since I contacted the chairman.

I contacted the chairman because the BA helpline is misdescribed. Because when I contacted them, they said, "It is nothing to do with us, it is down to Vueling", despite the fact that I booked my flight with BA and BA took my money. That appears to be irrelevant.

The Vueling helpline was even worse, because although we were all given a personalised lost luggage number, it never got onto their system. So when you are on the Vueling airline helpline, they said, "Come back to us when your luggage goes on our computer system". They couldn't even tell me where the luggage was till it, without warning, spontaneously arrived at my house last Thursday

In those circumstances, I went to the BA website and the BA website says the chairman is anxious to have comments from customers, and there is his email address, so I sent him an email.

That is reinforced by an article which I referred to in the correspondence. Apparently he likes reading customers' emails. It doesn't appear to be necessarily he does anything about it, but he obviously likes reading them over his breakfast.

So your clients must know now, nearly two weeks after the event, what happened to the luggage.

...

PS: BA as a group, as a company in a group, clearly know what happened to the luggage, because, as I said in my original email, they cannot have accidentally left the whole of the flight's luggage off the plane, can they? I mean, I am intrigued. It might be for some reason they only had 3 gallons of fuel in the plane, it would run out unless they took everything off, which is a bit difficult because the plane was actually being refueled when we got there. But equally, it is impossible to believe that the pilot, who has to sign the documentation as to what is the weight and composition of the weight in the plane, did not know that his hold was empty; and it is equally impossible for the ground staff not to know that the luggage was not there

These are things which, I accept, I am struggling to find a rational explanation for. But then I don't operate airlines. I don't know what goes on. But I do know this, Mr Turner: it is clearly within the knowledge of your client to explain.

JT: My Lord, you know, of course, that this was not a BA aeroplane. This was another operator.

PS: In the same group.

JT: This is a Spanish low cost operator.

PS: That itself is an interesting story, because I bought my ticket with BA and I was given a BA flight number, until the day before I signed in, when it suddenly got changed to a Vueling number.

I didn't contract with Vueling. I contracted with BA. I signed up with BA. BA took my money. BA had the responsibility for my luggage. In fact, BA had the responsibility for me being able to get onto the flight. Your code sharing now explains to me why the plane was possibly overloaded or underloaded, because the people might have code shared more than there are. But my contract was with BA and, frankly, for BA to tell me, their "customer helpline", was that it was nothing to do with them was, shall I say, economic with the actualité.

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But what about these guys. Much better policing it seems than what WAS forced upon people.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/magaz ... html?&_r=0

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Do you know anything about Rail Penalty Fares cock ?

They are the same as "unicorns". Does that help?

Not really, I was under the impression that you could help people fight against he system.

[pigpot]

Do you know anything about Rail Penalty Fares cock ?

They are the same as "unicorns". Does that help?

Not really, I was under the impression that you could help people fight against he system.

Listen to this and do some research yourself

How to Beat Hospital Parking Charges.

: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAONUZQH93s

Daniel Bostock has lots of entertaining videos on youtube. He comes across as having NO FEAR.

Or this

PTV On-the-spot Penalty Fares

: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I-aExuLcFQ

What are they going to do about it. Oooooooh!

They can provide provide their name and address...

This may result in a fine of $217 being mailed to them...

Stuff like this is really laughable. Even if these conductors had the "POWERS", cue Scooby Doo scary music, of the Police say, you still don't have to identify yourself even to the "50" let alone someone who didn't even successfully get into becoming... wait for it... a TRAFFIC WARDEN. I've never faced a charge let alone conviction for anything other than a traffic offence / ticket over 20 YEARS ago before I knew how to play the game. "They" have NO "powers" of arrest or anything like that and even if "they" did only the stupid volunteer "their" information.

It's all a propaganda scam to get people to FEEL they need to buy into a MYTH. No harm, no loss, no injury. No fine or prison. SIMPLE PIMPLE.

These volunteers are truly pathetic.

Well there you go, still more information for you but no more than "UNICORNS" as I said.

Hope this clarifies and helps.

And what's this :

You may embed only 3 quotes within each other.

That's a shame. I think an infinite amount would be great but hey... I don't make some "stuff" work, although at times I'm sure I can.

TTFN.

[pigpot]

Here's a question I've GENUINELY never asked thus no-one has ever answered the question. From where does the "Crown" derive it's perceived "authority" (realistically POWER)?

I am very interested in this. I've never EVER looked into this and maybe this has been years of misdirection on my own part. Maybe I've been barking down the wrong avenue for too long.

Any thoughts please.

[wanglepin]

From where does the "Crown" derive it's perceived "authority" (realistically POWER)?

I am very interested in this. I've never EVER looked into this

Now`s the time to start then.
Start here>
library
ˈlʌɪbrəri,-bri/Submit
noun
a building or room containing collections of books, periodicals, and sometimes films and recorded music for use or borrowing by the public or the members of an institution.
"a university library"
a collection of books and periodicals held in a library.
"the Institute houses an outstanding library of 35,000 volumes on the fine arts"
a room in a private house where books are kept.
"there was a library that Uncle Hilbert used as his study"
Hope this helps.

[pigpot]

From where does the "Crown" derive it's perceived "authority" (realistically POWER)?

I am very interested in this. I've never EVER looked into this

Now`s the time to start then.
Start here>
library
ˈlʌɪbrəri,-bri/Submit
noun
a building or room containing collections of books, periodicals, and sometimes films and recorded music for use or borrowing by the public or the members of an institution.
"a university library"
a collection of books and periodicals held in a library.
"the Institute houses an outstanding library of 35,000 volumes on the fine arts"
a room in a private house where books are kept.
"there was a library that Uncle Hilbert used as his study"
Hope this helps.

It didn't answer a SINGLE thing...... God I'm bored........

[pigpot]

Is it because you can't.......

[Llwellyn]

The Crown/King/Queen/Monarch etc.. is in THEORY deriving their power/authority from GOD (or whatever perceived deity by that society). This premise goes well back through pretty well all of history (pharaoh were considered to be gods as an example), in general it is considered Divine Appointment. Even through the act of inheritance - IE King A passes the throne on to Son B, it is still considered a divine act.. even when the leader was appointed.. this falls into, well DIVINITY would inform the society this was the right person to choose.

This is only a brief, and VERY broken down of the systems and what was believed etc. it takes a lot of reading and research through history to see what occurred and how it fully came about.

[pigpot]

The Crown/King/Queen/Monarch etc.. is in THEORY deriving their power/authority from GOD (or whatever perceived deity by that society). This premise goes well back through pretty well all of history (pharaoh were considered to be gods as an example), in general it is considered Divine Appointment. Even through the act of inheritance - IE King A passes the throne on to Son B, it is still considered a divine act.. even when the leader was appointed.. this falls into, well DIVINITY would inform the society this was the right person to choose.

This is only a brief, and VERY broken down of the systems and what was believed etc. it takes a lot of reading and research through history to see what occurred and how it fully came about.

Hey "Llwellyn",

Thank you for being the first person to stand up and post the TRUTH. "Divine"... OMG (pun intended). So hands up who believes in "God". Next hands up who can prove "God" is real... Without this PROOF it ALL comes tumbling down... Can we please get some truth and leave these terrible FICTIONS alone.

Cheers, "Llwellyn".

[pigpot]

Somebody posted something about "7/7" so I thought to post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHmDiTwSPAQ as it provides a little more clarification concerning the matter at hand.

Ta.

[pigpot]

Does anyone know of this lady... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1UT2Ms5E2k

Ex IRS agent tells it like it is

She talks of "Power nuts".

[pigpot]

Wow!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9PSYkWIuIs

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Pigpot, you were no help at all Daniel Bostock is parking ticket expert but I don't trust him because he slagged poor old Tom off.
I asked about Rail Penalty Fares. Hello
And please don't give me the tired old "do some research" routine, anyone can say that when someone needs help. I have to know by end of August. Peace

[longdog]

Pigpot... Unless you actually give some sort of coherent thoughts or opinions of your own or at the very least a summary of the content of the videos and links people aren't going to click on them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZZ7lPVHnkU

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/82m-prof ... story.html

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Wow!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9PSYkWIuIs

Wow indeed. I like her, she seems to know her stuff, I can see that shills will say she's mental and didn't produce any evidence, just a load of baloney, but you can tell by looking at her that she is decent and honest..

[Philistine]

pigpot, look up "the divine right of kings".
Thankfully, we surpassed this a long time ago.
You should study some history. It might set you on the path to learn how western governments developed.

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Somebody posted something about "7/7" so I thought to post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHmDiTwSPAQ as it provides a little more clarification concerning the matter at hand.

Ta.

Brilliant video....and WHAT ??!!!....I never knew "Jesus grew up in Glastonbury".... They kept that quiet, there's not even a plaque or anything in the town to celebrate the fact.
The things you can learn on the internet, bloody amazing. Peace