Death Defined by the IRS

A collection of old posts from all forums. No new threads or new posts in old threads allowed. For archive use only.
Demosthenes
Grand Exalted Keeper of Esoterica
Posts: 5773
Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:11 pm

Death Defined by the IRS

Post by Demosthenes »

The examples should be required reading for every practioner and taxpayer in the US...

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/notice_200790.pdf
Demo.
User avatar
webhick
Illuminati Obfuscation: Black Ops Div
Posts: 3994
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:41 am

Post by webhick »

Wow, I always wondered how my deal with the devil would affect my Nonqualified Deferred Compensation Plan....now I know.

The only question that now remains, where are the calculation tables for determining how much of my mind and body I use on a daily basis? I used to have a copy, but I think Chuck the Sewer Monster ate it and I have since been unable to locate a new one.
LPC
Trusted Keeper of the All True FAQ
Posts: 5233
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2003 3:38 am
Location: Earth

Re: Death Defined by the IRS

Post by LPC »

Demosthenes wrote:The examples should be required reading for every practioner and taxpayer in the US...

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/notice_200790.pdf
Wait. That's not Notice 2007-20. Notice 2007-20 provided corporate bond weighted average interest rate and the permissible range of interest rates specified under § 412(b)(5)(B)(ii)(II) of the Internal Revenue Code.

And I think that the real Notice 2007-20 was funnier.

(Everyone is a critic.)
Dan Evans
Foreman of the Unified Citizens' Grand Jury for Pennsylvania
(And author of the Tax Protester FAQ: evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html)
"Nothing is more terrible than ignorance in action." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
Quixote
Quatloosian Master of Deception
Posts: 1542
Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2003 2:00 am
Location: Sanhoudalistan

Post by Quixote »

The principal author of this notice is B. L. Zebub of the Office of Division
Counsel/Associate Chief Counsel (Tax Exempt and Government Entities).
I knew he worked for the IRS, but I thought he worked in IT.
"Here is a fundamental question to ask yourself- what is the goal of the income tax scam? I think it is a means to extract wealth from the masses and give it to a parasite class." Skankbeat
User avatar
webhick
Illuminati Obfuscation: Black Ops Div
Posts: 3994
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:41 am

Post by webhick »

Quixote wrote:
The principal author of this notice is B. L. Zebub of the Office of Division
Counsel/Associate Chief Counsel (Tax Exempt and Government Entities).
I knew he worked for the IRS, but I thought he worked in IT.
You're thinking of Betsy Lee Zebub. She was recently promoted from Chief Associate of Microchipped Mystery Meat in the IRS Cafeteria to Chief Associate of Microchipped Mystery Meat in Influence Technology (IT) for the Division of Gerbil Warfare for her groundbreaking study on mind control and meatloaf.

Bobby Lee Zebub, on the other hand, has been working steadily up the ladder at the IRS, going from Senior Mailboy to Rubber Band Specialist in '97 to Marketing Analyst for Pitted Cherries in '98... Head Invesigator of the missing Chevys at the Levees in '01, and once he found Jimmy Hoffa buried under a stack of CtC related 4852s he finally had the bargaining power he desired to gain the position he would be most pleased doing.

Edit: I realized that I forgot to say what Bobby Lee's prized position is. Chief Chicken Spitter for the CIA. So, he no longer works for the IRS.
Nikki

Post by Nikki »

And now for something not completely different:
SUZANNE VANCE FAIN, A.K.A. SUZANNE FAIN-POISSON, Petitioner
v.
COMMISSIONER OF INTERNAL REVENUE, Respondent

UNITED STATES TAX COURT
Filed October 2, 2007

P sought review of respondent's denial of innocent-spouse relief under section 6015, triggering respondent's obligation to notify her husband of his right to intervene. Her husband died before receiving the notice. Respondent moved for a continuance to allow notification of any heirs or personal representatives of his estate.

Held: A nonrequesting spouse's right to intervene survives death, and respondent is obliged to try appropriate means to notify any heirs, executors, or administrators.

Thomas E. Crowe, for petitioner.
Derek W. Kaczmarek, for respondent.

OPINION

HOLMES, Judge: Suzanne Vance Fain filed this case when the Commissioner refused to grant her innocent-spouse relief from her unpaid tax liability for 1999. Her case was already on a trial calendar when Commissioner's counsel realized that the IRS had not notified her husband of his right to intervene. That turned out to be impossible -- he was dead.

We are called to plug a small but noticeable gap in the tax law -- is a nonrequesting spouse's right to intervene extinguished by death or does it instead pass to a successor-in-interest?

BACKGROUND

According to the pleadings already filed in this case, the Fains filed a joint tax return for 1999. It showed that they owed about $15,000, but neither Fain paid. The couple later separated, and eventually the Commissioner began to try to collect the unpaid tax.

In February 2006, Suzanne filed a request for innocent-spouse relief under section 60151 with the Commissioner. He denied it in September 2006, and Suzanne filed a petition seeking review with this Court. Section 6015(e)(4) required us to issue rules that provide nonrequesting spouses "with adequate notice and an opportunity to become a party." Our Court's Rule 325 -- which we promulgated to answer that section's call-- requires the IRS to serve notice that a petition has been filed "on the other individual filing the joint return" no later than 60 days from the date that the petition itself was served. The Commissioner overlooked this obligation here until the case was already on a trial calendar. Then he learned that Robert Fain had died in 2002.

DISCUSSION

The first question we have to answer is whether Robert's right to intervene survives his death. There's no clear answer in the Code or regulations, so we rely on analogy, some background principles of law, and a nod to reasonableness. We start with the language of section 6015(e)(4), which gives a nonrequesting spouse the unconditional right to "become a party." We have already held that this means that he has a right to intervene within the meaning of rule 24(a)(1) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Van Arsdalen v. Commissioner, 123 T.C. 135, 143 (2004). And it is generally the case that a right to intervene passes to a decedent's estate. See, e.g., Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Cmty. v. United States, 231 Ct. Cl. 1033 (1982). An estate's right to intervene in some cases does not, of course, imply a general rule that all rights to intervene survive death. But Franklin observed long ago that nothing in life is certain but death and taxes. And the Internal Revenue Code makes sure that taxes survive even death. Sec. 6901(a)(1)(A)(i), (h). The survival of a decedent's tax liability means that as a practical matter his heirs or beneficiaries may be affected by the outcome of an innocent-spouse case. The opportunity to intervene is an opportunity to protect those interests, because granting innocent-spouse relief will make the estate of the nonrequesting spouse the only source of payment for any unpaid tax the deceased has left behind.

Turning to the Code again, we find that it also states, as a general rule, that any person acting for another person in a fiduciary capacity shall assume the powers, rights, duties, and privileges of that person with respect to taxes, sec. 6903, and that the word "fiduciary" includes executors and administrators, sec. 7701(a)(6).

We have already applied these sections to allow executors and administrators to seek innocent-spouse relief, e.g., Jonson v. Commissioner, 118 T.C. 106 (2002) (estate of deceased spouse able to request relief under section 6015), affd. 353 F.3d 1181, 1184 (10th Cir. 2003), and the Commissioner himself has ruled likewise, Rev. Rul. 2003-36, 2003-1 C.B. 849. Construing the Code to allow executors and administrators to intervene to oppose relief seems equally justified.

We finally note that allowing intervention is reasonable because it likely will increase the probability that we'll reach the right result in any particular case. This is why we've construed the right of a living spouse to intervene not just to oppose a petition, e.g., King v. Commissioner, 115 T.C. 118, 125 (2000), but also to support it, e.g., Van Arsdalen, 123 T.C. at 142.

We note that this is our construction of a statutory right, and should not be confused with the issue of whether someone who is jointly liable on a tax debt has constitutional standing to challenge the Commissioner's decision to let another taxpayer off the hook for that debt. The Ninth Circuit -- the circuit to which this case would be appealed because Suzanne was a Nevada resident when she filed her petition -- has held that a nonrequesting spouse lacks standing to challenge on appeal our decision to grant innocent-spouse relief precisely because the spouse's liability would remain the same whether or not relief was granted, Baranowicz v. Commissioner, 432 F.3d 972, 975 (9th Cir. 2005), affg. T.C. Memo. 2003-274, and we are not faced with that issue here.

The last question is what the Commissioner should do when neither he nor the requesting spouse has any idea whether there is an estate and whether it has a personal representative. While there may well be circumstances in which the Court's discretion points in another direction, in this case we agree with the Commissioner that it is appropriate to use an analogy to our long-followed procedure in deficiency cases. That procedure, as described in Nordstrom v. Commissioner, 50 T.C. 30, 32 (1968), is to file an order requiring both parties
to furnish the Tax Court, insofar as ascertainable and to the best of their abilities, the names and addresses of the heirs at law of the decedent, under the law of the jurisdiction wherein the decedent was a resident when his death occurred
and for the Court to then notify the heirs. Id.

We think this is the most reasonable procedure in the absence of a statute or regulation providing differently. To enable the parties to search for heirs, this case will be continued,

And an appropriate order will be issued.
Cpt Banjo
Fretful leader of the Quat Quartet
Posts: 782
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:56 pm
Location: Usually between the first and twelfth frets

Post by Cpt Banjo »

As one who has struggled with the proposed and final 409A regs, I can assure everyone that Notice 2007-90 is much easier to understand.
"Run get the pitcher, get the baby some beer." Rev. Gary Davis
Judge Roy Bean
Judge for the District of Quatloosia
Judge for the District of Quatloosia
Posts: 3704
Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 6:04 pm
Location: West of the Pecos

Post by Judge Roy Bean »

:lol: Someone, somewhere out there on the 'net is going to read that and take it seriously. :shock:
The Honorable Judge Roy Bean
The world is a car and you're a crash-test dummy.
The Devil Makes Three
Moebius_Dick

Post by Moebius_Dick »

Cpt Banjo wrote:As one who has struggled with the proposed and final 409A regs, I can assure everyone that Notice 2007-90 is much easier to understand.
More succinctly written, too.

You know when it takes them 40 pages to describe an extension of the compliance date that there's going to be a problem.