The Crawfords post eviction liabilities

[Losleones]

That's a stunning victory. For a bloke in his autumnal yrs with little to no income & presumably not a pot to piss in, what a wonderful retirement he's going to enjoy courtesy of steering himself down the FMOTL path.

There must be a huge cock under that Panama he's been hiding.

[hanlons razor]

That is a lot of cost he's incurred. Admittedly even more than I expected. I thought another 50k would have hit him hard, but 98.....


So as well as Jimmy were now going to have another bankruptcy hearing to look forward to!!!

[YiamCross]

The full transcript of the latest failed judgment of the Crawfrauds has been received and everyone who has paid towards it will receive a copy within the next 24 hours.

Once everyone has received their copy, it will be made public

I will say that it looks like he has received the final bill as in the judgment he claims B&B are asking him for £98k and that's after the house had been sold

where did you hear that? I thought about £100K, so not too far off. So, not going to be in SMH for xmas, then. Not in any house, unless there are some kind people out there willing to let them stay in a spare room. They don't have much baggage.

[letissier14]

The full transcript of the latest failed judgment of the Crawfrauds has been received and everyone who has paid towards it will receive a copy within the next 24 hours.

Once everyone has received their copy, it will be made public

I will say that it looks like he has received the final bill as in the judgment he claims B&B are asking him for £98k and that's after the house had been sold

where did you hear that? I thought about £100K, so not too far off. So, not going to be in SMH for xmas, then. Not in any house, unless there are some kind people out there willing to let them stay in a spare room. They don't have much baggage.

The transcript:

388. Mr Crawford : … £43,000, they sold the property for £55,000, they put no costs in after the last hearing, they now are asking another £98,000 on top of that with no accounts once again, they are acting as a fraudulent company

[YiamCross]

Crawford Transcript is in!! And it's everything we hoped for and more.
If you put your hand in your pocket but haven't recieved your copy yet, then please email this begging asap and I'll sort it for you.
Here's a little taster.

6. Mr Justice Phillips : Right, Mr Justice Green made an order …
7. Mr Crawford : That was on the 18th.
8. Mr Justice Phillips : Yes. Right. And what do you say should have been served on you
then?
9. Mr Crawford : Well “the respondent shall file and serve evidence on the applicant and
the court by 4pm on 28th August.”
10. Mr Justice Phillips : Right, well didn’t you receive a witness statement from …
11. Mr Crawford : A witness statement, but they didn’t answer any of the points.
12. Mr Justice Phillips : No but it doesn’t require them to answer any points, it’s whatever
evidence they want to file in answer to your application.
13. Mr Crawford : Right, okay. That was my point, they answered nothing.
14. Mr Justice Phillips : Right, but in a sense the first thing you have to do is make your case.

Yes, Tom starts the way he means to go on. You couldn't make it up. And there's plenty more to come...

584. Mr Justice Phillips : Alright. Thank you all very much.
End of transcription

[hanlons razor]

584 points. Well, that's my weekend entertainment sorted!

[notorial dissent]

Well, they can always go live with darling Amanda or that genius entrepreneur son of theirs when they get turfed out of Grannie's house, which is looking more and more likely. Pity he can't hit up his "advisers" for the money since it was their bad advice that got him in this mess, but I suspect they are even more broke than he is. If he'd had real legal advice he could have filed a malpractice claim, but not against those chumps, or is it chimps?

[JonnyL]

£98k

I think it's fair to say people on this page were not far off estimating the costs against Tom, if this isn't a wake up to reality call to the freemen brigade I don't know what is. From rags to ruins or what?

[ArthurWankspittle]

388. Mr Crawford : … £43,000, they sold the property for £55,000, they put no costs in after the last hearing, they now are asking another £98,000 on top of that with no accounts once again, they are acting as a fraudulent company

Tom does have some serious comprehension issues doesn't he? They don't need to put in a costs claim, it is covered in the mortgage agreement you signed but can't seem to read (and if you can't find it, have a search of the threads on here about you because it is repeated in there several times). I also seriously doubt UKAR/B&B sent Tom a letter saying: Dear Tom, you owe us £98,000. Yours sincerely B&B.

[ArthurWankspittle]

Well, they can always go live with darling Amanda or that genius entrepreneur son of theirs when they get turfed out of Grannie's house, which is looking more and more likely. Pity he can't hit up his "advisers" for the money since it was their bad advice that got him in this mess, but I suspect they are even more broke than he is. If he'd had real legal advice he could have filed a malpractice claim, but not against those chumps, or is it chimps?

Actually I believe you can sue a McKenzie friend.

[letissier14]

Tom does have some serious comprehension issues doesn't he? They don't need to put in a costs claim, it is covered in the mortgage agreement you signed but can't seem to read (and if you can't find it, have a search of the threads on here about you because it is repeated in there several times). I also seriously doubt UKAR/B&B sent Tom a letter saying: Dear Tom, you owe us £98,000. Yours sincerely B&B.

You are absolutely correct...

341. Mr West : I have no consequential applications in relation to costs the reason for that
being that the Bradley and Bingley will rely on its right to a contractual indemnity under the
mortgage conditions …
342. Mr Justice Phillips : So you have a balance on account don’t you?
343. Mr West : Yes. The reason for that being that the contractual indemnity is set out in the
mortgage conditions at pages 130 and 131 of the bundle and so in the … as is usual in
mortgage possession proceedings I make no application because I would simply add them
to the outstanding mortgage debt so I …

[AndyPandy]

Tom does have some serious comprehension issues doesn't he? They don't need to put in a costs claim, it is covered in the mortgage agreement you signed but can't seem to read (and if you can't find it, have a search of the threads on here about you because it is repeated in there several times). I also seriously doubt UKAR/B&B sent Tom a letter saying: Dear Tom, you owe us £98,000. Yours sincerely B&B.

You are absolutely correct...

341. Mr West : I have no consequential applications in relation to costs the reason for that
being that the Bradley and Bingley will rely on its right to a contractual indemnity under the
mortgage conditions …
342. Mr Justice Phillips : So you have a balance on account don’t you?
343. Mr West : Yes. The reason for that being that the contractual indemnity is set out in the
mortgage conditions at pages 130 and 131 of the bundle and so in the … as is usual in
mortgage possession proceedings I make no application because I would simply add them
to the outstanding mortgage debt so I …

So who's had the last laugh... personally I would say UKAR / B&B

[YiamCross]

Don't forget that £98 K is before the costs of this hearing have been added on. I think they'll break the 100K barrier easily before this is all over. Hope SMH is left in a fit state to cover the costs by the time thier "supporters" have finished occupying it.

[JonnyL]

Ninety Eight Thousand Pounds!!!!!!!! You can buy a house for that.

[Hercule Parrot]

as is usual in mortgage possession proceedings I make no application because I would simply add the (costs) to the outstanding mortgage debt…

Every time TC and his tribe of OPCA Gurus drag B&B back to Court, they end up paying their legal costs. After this latest debacle, Mr & Mrs Crawfraud are now jointly liable for £100k.

I think it's now inevitable that B&B will move for possession of Old Granny Crawfraud's Cottage, perhaps through bankruptcy proceedings. And I can see no reason why that would fail. But TC will fight it nonetheless, because he's stupid and belligerent.

By the end of this saga, Mr & Mrs Crawfraud will be absolutely ruined. They will have squandered a quarter of a million pounds on a Freeman ego trip for TC. Absolute madness.

[YiamCross]

Ninety Eight Thousand Pounds!!!!!!!! You can buy a house for that.

Could almost buy 2 in Ferne Chase.....

[NG3]

Ninety Eight Thousand Pounds!!!!!!!! You can buy a house for that.

Could almost buy 2 in Ferne Chase.....

Only if you're willing to settle for fixer-uppers with a Haining turd in the attic

[JonnyL]

Ninety Eight Thousand Pounds!!!!!!!! You can buy a house for that.

Could almost buy 2 in Ferne Chase.....

Only if you're willing to settle for fixer-uppers with a Haining turd in the attic

Don't forget Craig's tissues...

[PeanutGallery]

Only if you're willing to settle for fixer-uppers with a Haining turd in the attic

Well at least the police removed the larger one from the roof.

[wanglepin]

388. Mr Crawford : … £43,000, they sold the property for £55,000, they put no costs in after the last hearing, they now are asking another £98,000 on top of that

So they got him into more debt free then. Well not entirely, Ceylon, Mark Haining took a finders fee and Taylor and Ebert charged for their forensic analysis of the court document; costs undisclosed.