Lentz, Karl

[LightinDarkness]

Were you able to deduce a name or anything from the call?

The name of the woman hes working with? Yes, but its not a "Smith" or something that I can easily figure out how to spell. It starts with an M...if you listen to the first 45 minutes (and I can understand why you would NOT want to subject yourself to that insanity)...he spills her name fairly quickly.

[Jeffrey]

Of course Karl posts a picture with the documents blanked out.



Karl has also posted this excerpt from another case which shows Karl is gaining some notoriety.

I believe the Audra here is Audra Schwoerer, maybe someone with PACER can see what they dig up.

[Burnaby49]

Just a bunch of Karl Lentz judgments I spotted on Google Scholar:

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar_case? ... s_sdt=2006

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar_case? ... s_sdt=2006

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar_case? ... s_sdt=2006

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar_case? ... s_sdt=2006

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar_case? ... s_sdt=2006

A very cursory search on Quatloos didn't identify them.

[Jeffrey]

I listened to the clip LiD linked, he mentioned the name at 21:50. Moolenaar, Mulinari, Molinari, Mulionera. I cannot figure out what the hell the name is meant to be.

He says they took her kids and put them up for adoption because she left them alone in a car. Google search for that type of case shows another couple that left their kids in the car to go wine tasting but a different surname. I suspect Karl is hiding details of the case as usual. But yes, Karl mentions she has a lot of money, so I assume she must have paid Karl substantially to get him to travel 840 miles to "help" with her case.

[wserra]

A very cursory search on Quatloos didn't identify them.

The first post of this thread.

[LightinDarkness]

My Private Audio, the sovcit extravaganza that Karl appears on occasionally, had a 4 hour Thanksgiving call yesterday. It is revealed that Karl's lovely stepdad was arrested (http://www.newsleader.com/story/news/lo ... /76324124/) on allegations of child molesting. No, really.

Karl's defenders of course are quick to point out his mom got married to this guy when Karl was 18. So Karl is not in any way connected to this guy! I can't listen to more...but if anyone is feeling brave, the call list is here - and this is all on the 11/26 show:
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/ta ... 904&cmd=tc

[LightinDarkness]

UPDATE: This is even sicker than I thought. The girl in question is Karl's daughter. Karl claims his own daughter made it all up in response to her grandfather disciplining her over keeping cats in the house. Which, you know, is a total normal reaction to 12 year olds being disciplined by grandparents: accuse them of molestation.

Karl further states that unless his stepdad penetrated Karl's daughter he should be found innocent. Karl "doesn't give a dam about indecent liberties." Presumably that means the charges are "indecent liberties with a minor." Good to know Karl 100% supports child molestation - of his own children - as long as no penetration is involved. I can't imagine why such a good, wholesome father had his kids taken away from him, can you?

I can't listen to anymore, because I'm sure Karl is going to tell us how his magical sovcit paper is going to break good old stepdad out of jail any day now. I do hope Karl "helps" his stepdad though. Karl "helping" will ensure a nice, long prison sentence if he is found guilty.

[LightinDarkness]

This call is a train wreck in progress. Karl brags that although hes lived 200 feet from his kids for the past 7 months, he hasn't been anywhere near them. Not even sat down to have lunch with them. Why? Because he knows that after kids are in foster care they learn 'tricks' and would accuse him of molesting them the second he was near them. He has declared he will only go near his kids once they turn 18.

He says he bragged about this to the police who interviewed him regarding his stepfather's molesting. Karl taunted the police saying they can't touch him because he doesn't go anywhere near his kids.

Father of the year right here, ladies and gentlemen.

[notorial dissent]

If I hadn't thought Lentz was lower than pond scum to begin with, which after all actually has a rightful place in the universe, this would certainly convince about him. EWWW!

[LightinDarkness]

If I hadn't thought Lentz was lower than pond scum to begin with, which after all actually has a rightful place in the universe, this would certainly convince about him. EWWW!

And it gets worse. I fast forwarded around and Karl basically talks via monologue the entire time. This is a 4.5 exercise into a fantasy where Karl acts out his delusions of billing social services for taking his "property" (apparently the kids were taken after the charges were filed because, obviously). Karl further elaborates that unless he sees the pictures or videos of his stepdad having sex with his daughter, his daughter is a filthy liar. He knows shes a liar because, one year when she was 6 or 7, she did a bump/grind dance on Christmas (I'm not kidding, he says this and repeats it).

[Jeffrey]

Well now I feel stupid. I messaged WakeUp with my prediction that Karl secretly keeps out of trouble in real life.

How wrong I was.

edit: I'm gonna go ahead and save a copy of that call since I bet it gets taken down.

[notorial dissent]

Well now I feel stupid. I messaged WakeUp with my prediction that Karl secretly keeps out of trouble in real life.

How wrong I was.

edit: I'm gonna go ahead and save a copy of that call since I bet it gets taken down.

Everything I've been able to find or read about him all the way back pegs out the creepometer pat pen.

[AndyK]

Perhaps he's a disciple / trainee of LawyerDude?

[LightinDarkness]

From 4:15 onward in the above recording Karl gets into a fight with Angela, the sovcit host of My Private Audio. Angela is disgusted at how Karl is claiming his own daughter would make up molestation charges. Fireworks ensue.

[LightinDarkness]

From 4:15 onward in the above recording Karl gets into a fight with Angela, the sovcit host of My Private Audio. Angela is disgusted at how Karl is claiming his own daughter would make up molestation charges. Fireworks ensue.

Oh my. This is REALLY good. Karl loses it. I highly advise everyone listen to the last 15-20 minutes. It is an absolute gem. Karl shows how nuts he is.

[wserra]

Not only nuts, but a disgusting excuse for a human being. After he attacks his daughter, he attacks his mother. Publicly. And I only listened to the last 15 minutes.

I copied the audio file, just in case it disappears.

[notorial dissent]

And then he wonders why he has problems with local LE.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, made it a bit further into the audio today.

Around 2 hours 30 minutes Karl actually argues that it's none of the governments business if you molest a child in your private home.

And something it just occurred to me. This further proves Karl lied about the entire CPS thing. Karl's original story was that he and his wife had the kids put into foster care because they had down syndrome and Karl refused social security benefits for them, then after much paperwork Karl got the kids back.

Now Karl mentions one of the kids, (the daughter which he actually says her name, which is another can of worms), doesn't even have down syndrome so the reason for CPS involvement couldn't have been Karl's bullshit down syndrome story.

Not to mention, he doesn't even see his kids or have custody of them from what I can tell.

Plus around an hour 30 minutes in, instead of being angry at the alleged molesting grandpa, he threatens by name the foster family that took care of the kids before they went to grandpa, going so far as to say that he knows where the foster family works and lives. It might not be a bad idea to send this to the sheriff's department wherever Karl is.

A recurring theme throughout the first 150 minutes as well. Is that Karl has no idea what indecent liberties are and seems to think it involves beating children and not sexual. The definition of indecent liberties for Karl's benefit:

Willfully commits or attempts to commit any lewd or lascivious act upon or with the body or any part or member of the body of any child of either sex under the age of 16 years

It has nothing to do with violence.

The other thing is that Karl constantly asks the cop to show him the child pornography to confirm the events to Karl and at one point suggests the cop should have shown it to the reporter that wrote the article.

Gee Karl, maybe because that's for the jury to see and not you.

Oh and the genius argument that grandpa couldn't have molested her because he needs viagra. God damn.

[Jeffrey]

Finally finished the audio. Karl's final breakdown is a must-listen.

Karl literally forgets himself and let's slip that he asked the 3rd guy on the call to lie about the shit with the police and yells at him for refusing to lie.

[notorial dissent]

Otherwise known as Karl "the lying perpetual loser" Lentz.

Must always remember when dealing with anything with or about Karl, that he is IGNORANT, weapons grade STUPID, and a congenital LIAR, not to mention a narcissist con man and all around fraud!!!! Just little things, yaknow!!!

I am still absolutely gobsmacked that people actually pay this liar and fraud for "legal advice" considering that he has a lifetime 0 for all track record on his own behalf.

I guess there are enough people out there more stupid and ignorant than he is for it to work, which is equally scary. But still!!!