Peter of England: He’s still F RE?

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Re: Peter of England: He’s still F RE?

Post by rumpelstilzchen »

mufc1959 wrote:I had to look up 'barratry' - even though I'm a lawyer I'd never heard of it. Not surprising, because it's "fraud or gross negligence of a ship's master or crew at the expense of its owners or users."

I love it when the FOOTLers think that if they make important-sounding proclamations something will actually happen (other than the likes of us laughing our arses off).

If I was Djon Parrotte I'd reply with "Go on then. What are you going to do about it? Sue me? Call the police? Bring it on!"
There used to be a common law offence of being a common barrator. Perhaps that is what Peter is referring to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barratry_(common_law)
Being a common barrator was an offence under the common law of England. It was classified as a misdemeanor. It consisted of "persistently stirring up quarrels in the Courts or out of them". It is doubtful whether in the ordinary way persons charged with commission of this offence were dealt with by indictment.[3]

In 1966 the Law Commission recommended that this offence be abolished.[4] They said that there had been no indictments for this offence for "many years" and that, as an indictable misdemeanor, it was "wholly obsolete".[3] Their recommendation was implemented by the Criminal Law Act 1967.
Criminal Law Act 1967 Section 13 (1)(a):
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Abolition of certain offences, and consequential repeals.
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(1)

The following offences are hereby abolished, that is to say—
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(a)any distinct offence under the common law in England and Wales of maintenance (including champerty, but not embracery), challenging to fight, eavesdropping or being a common barrator, a common scold or a common night walker; and
.(b)any offence under an enactment mentioned in Part I of Schedule 4 to this Act, to the extent to which the offence depends on any section or part of a section included in the third column of that Schedule.
I love it when these footle idiots try to appear to be clever and the result is they make themselves look like a right tosser. Peter thinks he is being clever by accusing someone of an offence without realising the offence was abolished nearly fifty years ago. I doubt the police will act on that one.
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That letter/broadside/fishwrapper is just hilarious, and like PoE, a total and complete tool. I can't imagine what he thinks he's doing, other than providing further proof, like we needed it, that he is a complete and utter fool on top of being a charlatan and cheap fraudster. All bluster and fluff and no substance, as we've long known. Just too funny. The worst part of it is that his suckerlist clients will think it means something as it sounds so official and threaty. Nice to know things AREN'T going well for him and that he is now reduced to impotent ridiculous unenforceable threats.
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mufc1959 wrote:I had to look up 'barratry' - even though I'm a lawyer I'd never heard of it. Not surprising, because it's "fraud or gross negligence of a ship's master or crew at the expense of its owners or users."
Damn you rumpel! Beat me to the other definition.

It's probably a term Peter's been on the receiving end of if he's run into a Judge who's been around long enough to remember it. Of course being a common barrator, was abolished back in 1967. Funnily enough Barrators have a special place in Hell according to Dante Alleghiri, who gives them a mention in Canto XXI of the Inferno.
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Peter of Idiot wrote:The Parrot Gang of St Mary's Street, Painswick Gloucestershire, GL6 6QB are accused of the following additional criminal offences:

1. Personage
2. Barratry
3. Inland piracy
4. Press ganging
5. Trespass and Conversion
6. Repeated copyright violations
7. Theft of personal data
8. Common law offences of inciting mob rule
Not to mention:
1. Mopery with intent
2. Public urination
3. Taking indecent liberties with an alu paratha
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littleFred wrote:From Peter's FB:
Denise Brown wrote:Been to Court today I was ready to go to battle but the other side did not turn up LOL The Judge asked why did my cheque bounced I stated It did not They did not present it for payment he stated they should have accepted your cheque! smile emoticon
Jesse Shepeard III wrote:Did you win a default judgment since otherside never appeared?
Denise Brown wrote:Driving offence speeding 73 in a 70
I don't believe her. People in the UK are not prosecuted for speeding at 73 in a 70.
A Policeman can charge you for doing 31 in a 30 outside a school at kicking out time, but on a motorway I thought the minimum a camera is set to is 10% +2mph IE 79mph. I could be wrong. On a sidenote some hoons round here side tracked a speed van "man" and then proceeded to "buzz" the speed van in a beat up old Commodore, chap was less than impressed to discover later his number plates missing, and even less so when the speed van started issuing itself speeding tickets, yes they had pinched the plates and put them on the Commodore. :haha: :haha: :haha:
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Not that it doesn't sound like something PoE would try in his spare time, but really!!!!
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He also appears to have missed out one common law offence that might actually be relevant: Passing Off.
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Skeleton wrote:A Policeman can charge you for doing 31 in a 30 outside a school at kicking out time, but on a motorway I thought the minimum a camera is set to is 10% +2mph IE 79mph.
That's the guideline, but there's nothing to stop the police from prosecuting for 71mph if they really want to. It would be more common with the use of a manual check rather than a camera though, which in turn would suggest that there may have been some other activity that drew attention to them which led to them being ticketed for speeding (a strict liability offence) rather than attempting a prosecution for another offence where there was more to argue (such as driving without due care and attention).

It also wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility for someone to have an accident when posting and get the figures wrong.
Skeleton wrote:On a sidenote some hoons round here side tracked a speed van "man" and then proceeded to "buzz" the speed van in a beat up old Commodore, chap was less than impressed to discover later his number plates missing, and even less so when the speed van started issuing itself speeding tickets, yes they had pinched the plates and put them on the Commodore. :haha: :haha: :haha:
While I wouldn't want to suggest that no-one has ever done this, it does seem to be a common story from around the world: http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/snaptrap.asp
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Drifting off topic, but another speed camera sport is setting them off with vehicles that have no engine:

Racing bike https://youtu.be/qacLW2NSmi0?t=1m41s
Inline skates https://youtu.be/W9e-txPOoEw?t=2m14s
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Another update about the German-speaking WeRe community - the more I explore the crazier it gets. There seems to be a bit of a power struggle and if I were a cynical person I would say a lot of rats are smelling that there is money to make, with the German WeRe community growing rapidly, so far untouched by the lack of success and mounting legal cases. Let's take a look at some of the bigger players.

For example there is 65 year old Swiss Werner Peters, a Freeman veteran who offers legal advice without having any degree, despite a lawful injunction, and has a long criminal record including fraud, slander, embezzlement and forgery. He is considered a WeRe specialist and in direct contact with Peter, mainly giving web seminars about how to best send money to Peter … I mean join WeRe. On Tuesday he tried to establish a second source for the Were LTT “clearing codes” by sending out an e-mail claiming that LLT's can now only be verified over a new address, verify-werebank@web.de. After much confusion among the crowd and an intervention by other WeRe gurus he retracted the information (including from his website http://www.wemepes.ch) and claimed a misunderstanding.

Possibly the loudest crier for WeRe in Austria is Freeman veteran Johannes “Joe” Kreissl, who gives lectures every week (and admits to make at least 2.500 Euro every month from “donations” there). What I find a little surprising is, he himself didn’t seem to have had any success with WeRe cheques, because a week ago, on February 24th, insolvency proceedings were opened against him (State Court Wels, 20 S 25/16a). I thought it should not have been a problem to pay off about 17.000 Euro in taxes and around 340.000 Euro in other liabilities (which he seems to have collected in less than 3 years, because his last insolvency was on August 19th, 2013, State Court Steyr 14 Se 9/13s, where he was declared bankrupt for lack of assets). But don’t worry too much about him, he has declared assets this time, amongst them 225 million Euro the Austrian government supposedly owes him due to some OPPT bills (http://www.nachrichten.at/oberoesterrei ... 71,2165431).

There is also Joya Marschnig, whose awakening as a Freewoman seemed to coincide with beginning financial problems. She handles the popular WeRe OkiTalk/Mumble online meeting place with weekly public lectures and talks and is a big fan of homeschooling. She managed Grünhexenland (Green Witch Country - http://www.gruenhexenland.net), a place for “free learning without a school”, but in June 2013 she stopped paying back a loan. She had been shocked to learn that the money lend to her hasn’t come directly from somebody else's account but has somehow been “created” by the bank and of course that meant it was worthless and the contract was null and void (in such cases I always want to ask those people if they have spend the money they lend and if it seemed to have worth then). It doesn’t look like that the bank and later the courts followed her argument, because her place was put up at a foreclosure auction in June 2015.

Of course there is university professor Franz Hörmann, who is kind of the ideologist in the German WeRe and Freeman/OPPT movement, his lectures usually go for the “bigger picture” and he is brought out to give the crazy dribble (and many other schemes) some legitimacy. Despite being a tenured professor of economics in Vienna (with a 70k Euro yearly salary) he also managed - ironie of all ironies - to amass a debt of 205.000 Euro and slide into insolvency in summer 2015 (http://derstandard.at/2000015760270/Das ... ist-pleite).

An even more regularly-prominent WeRe protagonist is Gernaut Gauper, who went through a semi-professional but not too successful political career, switching parties several time, and is now asking for money on the same crowdfunding site like Nabila Aliani. Only, he is asking for 360.000 Euro for “construction machines” to mass produce a “Tesla” free energy generator (600 Watt in - 3.000 Watt out - http://wesharecommunityprojects.com/wes ... ame=Gernot). He stopped paying back a loan in December 2013 with the same arguments that worked so well for Joya Marschnig and ended in front of the State Court Graz. In the summer of 2015 he complained very publicly about his social security checks being seized down to the subsistence minimum and formed a union for “loan victims”. I am not sure why he takes money from the non existing Austrian government in the first place.

And if you start to see a pattern off financial disaster you are a very cynical person.

I could go on with people pushing to get a piece of the WeRe trough like Wolfgang Cejda, who already has his own little scheme where he has people (over 2000) pay to join his RPP “association” (for only 5 Euro per month) which supposedly knows how to bring big paybacks from pension plans, sometimes, in the near future, very soon, he is sure (http://rppplattform.com/).

Or another icon of the OPPT sect, Andreas Schober. He likes to change his name regularly, his aliases include Andreas Goldmann, Harvey Friedmann and the colorful Andreas Monte-Christo. He has spent over 4 years in prison for several fraud schemes and is part of another alternative banking scheme (OSBEEE - Open Source Banking Economy), together with the already mentioned Franz Hörmann, where shares cost you only 15 Euro. He is quiet now because he went back to prison in the winter, after breaking parole he has to serve the remaining 22 months of his sentence.

Of course there are also more selfless helpers like the small-time actress Solveig Berg, who does most of the translations for the WeRe circle - her own website (http://www.solveigberg.net/) seems esoteric and harmless, until you look deeper and behind “Disenchanting the Magic” you find the whole Freeman/OPPT nonsense regurgitated ... or Nabila Aliani, who moderates the German WeRe skype channels and is therefore the source of much of the German WeRe news to regular “customers”. I think her selfless character is best shown in the crowdfunding initiative she created, asking people to finance her a whole year holiday on a Spanish beach ... did I say holiday, I meant her vision of improving her physical and mental fitness through swimming in the sea, jogging, cycling, a healthy diet and learning the language (http://wesharecommunityprojects.com/wes ... ame=health).

To quote the movie Guardians of the Galaxy … “What a bunch of a-holes!”
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Re: Peter of England: He’s still F RE?

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An excellent run down of the main lunatics in the asylum. Effort appreciated!
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SteveUK wrote:An excellent run down of the main lunatics in the asylum. Effort appreciated!
And from me also, much appreciated.

A rather poignant post has appeared on Peter's FB page in response to his latest rant;
Dirolene Carolyn

Peter, STOP pointing fingers at others. Take responsibility for what you have NOT done. You have taken ALL hard working peoples money. You do not answer your phone. WeRe Bank does not work any you are fully aware of it. You might at one time had 12,000 members but NO longer. Peter of England is a SCAM living of us people. You went from a bus to home off our money.....
Worth posting before Pete suppresses it. I'll give it about another two hours before it's squished.

Looking at his last tirade against his nemesis he signs off with what I think is, inadvertently, his new signature;
Peter of Poundland wrote;
A sociopath is not to be reasoned with - Britains
Peter of England on behalf of 12,000 ReMovement members
Oh dear. Lose the "is" after the word sociopath and it would be perfect.

In his latest rage he quotes the links to both the Pete & Parrot flavours of WeRe websites and they are remarkably similar in that both are dead ends and neither link to anything substantial. He's warning Parrot. Oh yes, he's WARNING him, now he's really mad SO HE"S WARNING HIM and, almost forgot, if his WARNINGS aren't heeded he'll go off to the cops and the CPS (who don't take crime reports) and the SFO (who couldn't convict Hitler anyway) and get them all involved.

He's now published the address of his former friend and now bitter rival in the dog-eat-dog world of the worthless cheque promoter. Given the demographic of Pete's following that wasn't particularly wise and if there should be any "incidents" involving pitchforks and burning brands then Pete can ReAcquaint himself with the fact that whilst incitement at common law is no longer an offence in the UK, a nice statutory replacement can be found at S45 of the Serious Crime Act 2007, probably even written with him in mind. I'll call it Pete's Law.

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http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/27/section/45
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There is of course another WeRe bank site out there, one in Europe it would seem.

http://www.re-movement.eu

What does it want from you, why money of course and lots of it. It seeks crowdfunding for a number of projects starting with this little gem;
CROWD FUNDING TARGET 1 – GOING TO THE COUNTRY –

TARGET £250,000 TO BE RAISED IN A 4 MONTH PERIOD TO PAY FOR……

LEGAL FEES TO PROVE IN COURT, VIA TRIAL BY JURY, THE JURY CONSIDERING BOTH FACT AND LAW, THAT A PROMISSORY NOTE, YOUR PROMISSORY NOTE, IS A NOTE IS MONEY – AND WHEN LODGED WITH A BANK IT BECOMES A “BANK NOTE” AND THAT IT IS LEGAL TENDER –
It give a little more of the detail
To raise £250,000 for a legal team – This team will be split across “conventional” [Mercantile/Maritime/Ecclesiastical] and Common Land Law Court of Record boundaries.

Yes, I know many of you feel that this is insanity, to take them on in their own arena, and the “deck is already stacked” against us by the Inns of Court and Temple Bar as well as the bought and paid for judiciary – but we know things that they don’t and while their plans may be fool proof they are most certainly not God proof!

“To this end we are asking everyone with a £10 in their pocket [or piggy bank] to

PLEDGE to this FINAL ASSAULT UPON THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN
The Synagogue of Satan, love it, sounds like an album Dire Straits should have made in the 80's or perhaps Spinal Tap. And that'll be money of the worthless kind if you please, you know, that toxic sterling or euro.

Finally a promise to give back money to all donaters if the target isn't reached
If we don’t make the target of £250,000 in 120 days on the individual appeal then you get that £10 back!

AND REMEMBER YOU PAY NOTHING UNLESS WE ACHIEVE TARGET
As the sadly lamented Father Jack might have said, "Arse!" Only four days to go till the 8th March when Petey promised to have the bank up and running as a physical trading presence with phones and folk who'll answer them and stuff. The good folk of Stoke - watch out!

There are country-specific pages which don't link to much in particular. Pete's own name takes you to this nugget as to student debt, why 'they' want you to have them and how to settle them off 'in a jiffy'.
Student debt levels have risen sharply since 1993/4. Why has this happened? Who’s to blame – if anyone?

Is it an accident?

Is it “market forces” because as your brains have obviously gotten much bigger there is a need to crowd more “knowledge” into them?

Is it because capitalism and the forces thereof benefit us all by

1. Having you pay more so that

2. We can all benefit from your staggering world changing new learning, ideas and wisdom?

The answer to all these questions is of course a resounding: “No! Mr Peter it is none of the above!”

So what is it and why is it?

The answer is that it is part of the NWO, UN Agenda 21 and Bilderberg Social Engineering policy project & directive to ensure that all you little lambs end up just like your parents BUT at a much earlier age and that is:

UP TO YOUR FUCKING NECKS IN DEBT!

That felt nice – it needed to be said.

STUDENT DEBT

It was a fundamental tenet of the Knights Templar and the Free Masonic Orders which whored out of them that said:

“Wrap you enemy in one of three things: DEBT – LITIGATION OR A SHROUD!”

Which one have they chosen for you and why?

Once you comprehend this little piece of STUDY then you simply won’t need to anymore.

JOIN with ReMovement today and we’ll show you how to pay off that pesky loan in a jiffy. Pay it off with more honour too than the way it was foist upon you by the “cappuccino/ lattee” drinking Country Club set of politico hyenas who profited off you woes and fed this “debt shite” through the bars of the school play-ground, like drug-dealers, when you were NOT responsible or mature enough to make an “INFORMED CONSENT-DECISION about the entrapment.

The Presstitutes then, carefully and as all whores do, sell the “party-line” for the Governmental -Whitehall – Banksters Pimps who employ them, to you via the constant toxic and poisonous dribble of drivel they drip, drip, drip into your ears and eyes daily!
Funnily enough, the one thing you can't do on this site is sign up for the cheques or the LLT, neither does it invite you to send money to a dodgy low rent address in Manchester.
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CROWD FUNDING TARGET 1 – GOING TO THE COUNTRY –

TARGET £250,000 TO BE RAISED IN A 4 MONTH PERIOD TO PAY FOR……

LEGAL FEES TO PROVE IN COURT, VIA TRIAL BY JURY, THE JURY CONSIDERING BOTH FACT AND LAW, THAT A PROMISSORY NOTE, YOUR PROMISSORY NOTE, IS A NOTE IS MONEY – AND WHEN LODGED WITH A BANK IT BECOMES A “BANK NOTE” AND THAT IT IS LEGAL TENDER –
Why does the conman want £250,000 when all the money is just a pen stroke away? All he has to do is to create his own promissory note for £250,000, get it "logged" with WeReNoTaBaNk which will make it become a "BANK NOTE".....and....."THAT IS LEGAL TENDER" He can then use that "BANK NOTE" to pay for the legal fees. He can use the actual process he is undertaking to prove he is right....to....er.....prove he is right.
The answer is right under his nose and he missed it. He really is a silly little conman.
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Also why do they need £250,000? What is it actually supposed to pay for? Lawyer fees? Can't be, most Guru's run their own common law advice centres of incompetence. Court Fees? Again they set up their own court, the International Court of Common Law (I think they have a branch in Cardiff, that well known legal epicentre of the world), I don't think that charges £250,000 to start or adjudicate on a case.

So what exactly is the £250,000 going on? Who is the lawyer they are looking to hire? Will they make the accounts public so people who join this assault will actually see where the money they give goes?

Of course not. The money isn't for any legal fight or battle. If it was they'd have a quote from an actual lawyer which would be an estimate based on the work done, if I went any lawyer and said to him, I want to bring a suit against so and so for all the mean things he's said about me that have upset me, they'd probably advise against it, but if pressed would be able to estimate the hours and consequently the bill. If I then took that to this forum to 'crowdfund' my legal fees up, thenI'd be able to provide the name and firm of the lawyer, and the amount they had estimated.

The second point is that in the United Kingdom, civil disputes aren't decided by a Jury. Juries only decide if the state has proven a person to be guilty. They don't decide on restitution or sentence or make any proclamation about the law. Simply because that is not what Juries do and it would likely be a disaster if they did.
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Post by Chaos »

not only that but since this case is such a surefire winner, I'm sure lawyers are clamoring to do it on a contingency basis seeing this will net quite the windfall. :lol:
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Confession time, as the WeRe Forum has closed - I was the poster with the account number 150180SW

To show how stupid the checks done by Peter and it would appear Parrot were and how they were only interested in making money, I opened an account in the name of Mr Sumting Wong - using a false address and National Insurance number.

Without even paying a membership fee, buying a cheque book or sending a promissory note (I complained and said that I had sent it to them twice and they added one to my account) an account was opened in clearly a made up name and I was able to upload details of cheques which I said I had written (even though I never brought any) and they were cleared by WeRe Bank.

Thats right, WeRe Bank cleared cheques that didn't even exist :shrug: The entire WeRe Bank system of security and checks was flawed. It shows that the entire WeRe Bank clearing process was made up rubbish.

However, I thank those idiots for the opportunity to address and respond to the racist comments made by a poster called LN :naughty:
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Sumting Wong :lol:
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Slight side-track but I wonder if this has anything to do with You-Know-Who...

I've just had my Npower gas statement and there is one of those 'Changes to our small-print' leaflets...
Payment (Clause 13)

We have clairified that we'll only accept certain payment methods.

If paying by cheque it must be in a form accepted by the UK banking industry and it will only be accepted in payment of a bill once it has been cleared by our bank.
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Bones wrote:
Thats right, WeRe Bank cleared cheques that didn't even exist
That must be some super-strength Oofle Dust Peter is using. Or maybe he's smoking it. :lol:
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