Natural selection at work in modern society?

[Hanslune]

In the past they were hermits, witches and the village idiot. Its just an update for today's world.

As noted by myself and others there are people who have successfully withdrawn from this hectic world they have done so by going to sea, buying property or squatting on public lands - and not bothering anyone.

[The Observer]

The problem is that these boys spend so many hours fighting the freeman fight one has to figure all the time away from work has to hurt business. This is to say nothing of missing jobs because they were in jail or on the run when they were supposed to be on a work site. As in, "Allen does good work provided you can spring him from jail."

The other problem is that freeman entrepreneurs, like Menard, who peddle products eventually run into a government rule or regulation required to get the product to market. Not wanting to lose their freeman street cred these can't-plan-ahead boys refuse to comply with the reg (no matter how innocuous it may be). The product never gets to market and the investors are out their money.

The other possibility is some of the people who get involved in the sovrun/FOTL/tax protester movements are marginal business or tradespeople who find their enterprise is not competitive or profitable as they would like. Regulations and taxes tend to be seen by these types as being barriers to their ability to make the kind of money they think they should be making. You can peruse the old US threads on Richard Simkanin and Walter Thompson as examples of guys whose businesses were important to them but not huge money makers at the end of the day. Instead of paying a consultant to analyze and teach them what they could do to improve the bottom line, they retreated into the tax protester world instead. It was far easier and cheaper to them (at least on the surface of the koolade barrel) to spot magic words and gibberish in an effort to improve their bottom line.

[arayder]

The other possibility is some of the people who get involved in the sovrun/FOTL/tax protester movements are marginal business or tradespeople who find their enterprise is not competitive or profitable as they would like. Regulations and taxes tend to be seen by these types as being barriers to their ability to make the kind of money they think they should be making. You can peruse the old US threads on Richard Simkanin and Walter Thompson as examples of guys whose businesses were important to them but not huge money makers at the end of the day. Instead of paying a consultant to analyze and teach them what they could do to improve the bottom line, they retreated into the tax protester world instead. It was far easier and cheaper to them (at least on the surface of the koolade barrel) to spot magic words and gibberish in an effort to improve their bottom line.

That's an excellent observation, Observer. I think that sort of mindless, denial of reality also drives much of freeman/sovcit legal theory.

Freemen can endlessly jabber about the government being a corporation which requires the individual's consent to have authority, but when it is all said and done that argument won't get anyone anywhere.

Freeman gurus who tell their followers that their theories are usefully applicable are just plain liars.

I have noticed among emotionally needly freemen the practice of claiming "victories" that never happened. Whether it's Keith Thompson claiming to have beat a parking ticket, Bobby Menard claiming the authorities have recognized him as a peace officer or a rank and file freeman trying to get street red by claiming to have paid his bills with the 96 fix, it's the same lie.

It's just BS told to other BSers.

It is interesting to note that the freeman subculture shuns people like Ben Lowrey and Brian Alexander who wise up and state the simple truth that freeman theory just doesn't work.

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Dope Clock: It has been 72 days since freeman guru Robert Menard promised to bring legal actions to secure precedent setting judgments. So far there is no documentation of a single legal action by Menard.