Larry Edgar Zachow R.I.P.

[Burnaby49]

On October 9, 2016, Larry Edgar Zachow was called home to be with the Lord. He passed away peacefully at the Misericordia Hospital in Edmonton, Alberta. Larry was a devoted husband, father, brother, friend and man of God. He was born on November 21, 1950 in Birch Hills, Saskatchewan to Edward and Ellen Zachow. He was the second youngest of seven children; two brothers and four sisters. With his first marriage he had two sons and one grandchild. In his second marriage he had three children and one grandchild. He spent much of his time volunteering, educating and counseling in which he made many friends who became like family along the way. Larry opened his home and his heart to many. He shared not only the food he had on his table, but his wisdom, kindness and compassion with all. Larry enjoyed the holidays and the togetherness it brought among people. He appreciated a good meal and loved his sweets. He would never turn away an opportunity to make his circle grow bigger. Larry was a man of integrity and honor, and his word was his bond. He came to know the Lord as his Saviour, where he was led by the Spirit and called to do His work. The church was his second home where he ministered and touched many lives. His greatest legacy was that he loved; selflessly and whole heartedly. This will forever be engraved in the hearts of all who had the pleasure of knowing him. Larry will be dearly missed by his devoted wife Aida, his children Clayton, Clinton, Sarah, Caleb, Calvin; grandchildren Ashlee Martel-Zachow, Aaden Phillips; siblings Carole (Lorne) Birtch, Grant (Lois) Zachow, Wendell (Margaret) Zachow, Ruthe White, Jane Turgeon, Shelley Runkvist, numerous nieces, nephews, family and friends.

Celebration of Life
Tuesday, October 18 2016, 3:00PM
Wellington Park Community League
13440 – 132 St, Edmonton.

http://www.trinityfuneralhome.ca/larry-edgar-zachow/

I know what you're all asking yourselves; Who the hell is Larry Zachow? He's a man frequently mentioned in Quatloos but who never had his own discussion. I kept planning to start one and I actually posted this;

So housekeeping work like this gets put on the back burner. However almost done. Then on to another housekeeping chore of trying to get all of the Larry Edgar Zachow information, both what is on Quatloos and what else I've uncovered, in one place.

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9587&p=177862&hilit=Zachow#p177862

Unfortunately I posted that over two years ago and never got back to him. Now it's too late. Larry couldn't hang around forever waiting for me to get going on his posting so he gave up waiting and went home instead.

So a background, all from these previous Quatloos postings in these discussions;

Freeman-on-the-land armed seizure - northern Alberta
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9579

The Tacit Supreme In Law Court & United Sovran Nations
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9463

Dean Clifford - A Tale of Two Gurus
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9364

Glenn Winningham of the House of Fearn - Soveran in Canada
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9616

Interest in Zachow started with our contributor Hilfskruzer Mowe posting about the Grand Prairie squat in October 2013;

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=9579

This was a bunch of freemen types who claimed sovereignty over government owned land in northern Alberta. They said they'd purchased it from the true owners, an aboriginal band. They began homesteading and causing trouble in general for locals. When they set up a small sawmill and started cutting down timber the government stepped in and arrested them. Mowe sent an invitation to Robert Menard to participate in discussing this issue in Quatloos.

Since we know you are reading this message thread Mr. Menard (greetings!) I would like to invite you to participate on Quatloos in a specific context. In the summer of 2013 you travelled to Alberta with a chap named minister Edward Robin Jay Belanger and you spent a period of time in that province. During this period you became acquainted with an individual who went by the name “Andreas Pirelli”, though his actual name turned out to be “Mario Antonacci”. You, for example, attended this meeting held by Antonacci’s group (https://www.facebook.com/events/273555742786982/). You have also publically acknowledged having met this individual.

Antonacci has subsequently become rather notorious when as the Senior Chief Justice of the Tacit Supreme In Law Courts he unilaterally seized the rental property he occupied as his ‘embassy’. We all know the tale that followed, and I certainly acknowledge that you from the start rejected this as an immoral and illegal activity.

So my point of inquiry is related to that. Investigation here on Quatloos into Antonacci has linked him to individuals involved in illegal squatting activity in northern Alberta, in the Grande Prairie area. Discussion of these two related subjects may be found here:

• Tacit Supreme In Law Court & United Sovran Nations: viewtopic.php?f=47&t=9463
  
  Grande Prairie squat: viewtopic.php?f=47&t=9579

You will note that I suspect that beyond the Mr. Piotrsson you met at the identified “Serenity Valley Calm-unity” meeting and Antonacci, that you may have encountered a third key participant in this scheme, a Larry Zachow, an evangelical preacher probably best known for beating his teenaged daughter in response to her sexual activity. Zachow appears to head an affiliate group of Antonacci’s called the North Watchman People’s Embassy.

Now, my guess, supported by another Quatloos poster who appears to have insider information, is that Antonacci / Zachow / Piotrsson’s scheme was that they hooked up with some disgruntled members of one or more aboriginal communities, claimed to have purchased Band land from those aboriginal individuals, then ‘resold’ that land to an assortment of Sovereign Citizen / Freeman-on-the-Land / OPCA type folk.

I see no evidence you were in any way involved in this arrangement. However, I strongly suspect you were exposed to this scheme and its ringleaders. So my invitation (yes I finally got to it) is that you share what you know of the apparent fraudulent sale of Crown land.

I hope this invitation is not too intrusive. My interest is to better understand what these individuals planned and did. You appear to be a potentially informed but uninvolved witness. I have an academic curiosity, if you will, in matters such as this. Since you have publically stated your disapproval of Antonacci’s activities I hope you might be able to shed more light on this unpleasant scenario and its perpetrators.

All the best!

SMS Möwe

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9364&p=165776#p165776

In the same discussion Mowe had this to say about Zachow;

For awhile I have had a nagging suspicion that I am missing something in the ongoing tale of the Grande Prairie squats. A link has been missing from the web.

But I think I’ve found it.

It began from a video of Rob Inthe Pagefamily (viewtopic.php?f=47&t=9407), which he cited in a South African Freeman-on-the-Land forum as the antidote to Meads v. Meads. It turns out the video is available on the Youtube page of an Edmonton-area outfit called “Goddesses Lair” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIGf-U20yp8) and oh GOD it is awful. This apparently was at some kind of conference – 75 minutes of new age twaddle as Rob babbles about he was a terrible person and then he unlocked the inner wonderfulness inside, had a rebirth in which he unlearned himself, yadda yadda yadda. Since I have not actually had that much exposure to Rob’s Secret Stuff I continued to half listen, resisting the temptation to self-injury, hoping Rob would talk about his pseudolegal techniques. And at the end he offers two things:

1. the only time he has arrested while "travelling" was when he didn’t put up his mental “happy-thoughts” shields, so that has to be the trick, and

2. you have to take his 2.5 day seminars to know his secret techniques.

Oh great. I just suffered through a mind-numbing new-age crap-fest that was no more than a sales pitch. And then Rob said something to a half-audible question – that if you want to live 'in' mainstream society in an 'opted-out' mode then you should look at what the Embassy is doing and live free by diplomatic means.

Embassy? What? Someone talking about “embassies” and diplomatic stuff in Edmonton? In mid-summer 2013? A little digging and I found this webpage advertising the event, “Liberation Day Edmonton”, at which the Rob in the Pagefamily video had apparently been recorded

(https://www.facebook.com/events/600471749963950/?ref=22). And at the end of the event description was this chunk of text:

Also attending & sharing with us will be:
Andreas Pirelli of the First Nations Sovran Embassy of Earth Larry Zachow from the Northern Watchmen Peoples Embassy, and the founder of the free economy society in Edmonton.

…

Sunday there will be a meeting of the First Nations Sovran Embassy of Earth 10am to 5pm. Bring your lunch for sunday as well if you are attending, and show up early as there will be paperwork. Separate registration is required so email for info/registration/ find out extra fees for joining etc. info@goddesseslair.org

Andreas Pirelli, a.k.a. Senior Chief Justice of the Tacit Supreme In Law Courts Mario Antonacci I know. But Larry Zachow is new. After a little investigation I am fairly confident that he’s our donkey.

To date Shaunda Petrova has kept indicating that she and Fiola are associated with some kind of community, and that community has provided legal documentation for Fiola’s land ownership, been in contact with authorities, etc. But who is the community? I am quite certain it is the North Watchmen People’s Embassy, sometimes called the Northern Watchmen People’s Embassy. It’s a branch off the Sovran Nations Embassies / Tacit Supreme In Law Courts movement. If you go to the United Sovran Nations website (http://unitedsovrannations.org/) and look in the upper right corner there’s a logo for the “North Watchmen People’s Embassy”, one of the United Sovran Nations.

And here’s the North Watchmen People’s Embassy website (http://nw-pe.org/). Interestingly, unlike most others in the Sovran Nations/Tacit Supreme In Law Courts network it does not have a giant ill-written warning that it has been discontinued. The front page notes:

A Private Jurisdiction…

THIS IS A PRIVATE DOMAIN HELD IN TRUST – NO COMMERCE EXPECTED and/or IMPLIED

Looks like we’ve found the right place! The remainder of the site, which includes a message forum and email server, is password restricted.

Next we turn to Larry Zachow, spokesperson at the June 1 event and co-host for the Sunday full-day workshop. It didn’t take long for me to conclude we have our man. Larry (Lawrence) Zachow was an Edmonton-area mortgage associate who in 2011 was prohibited from continued activity in that business by the Real Estate Council of Alberta (http://www.reca.ca/consumers/content/pu ... achow.html). The notice indicates his suspension is due to failure to pay an administrative penalty – I did not find any more details. The website for Asset Capital Mortgage is still active (http://www.assetcapital.ca/), though parts are broken. Asset Capital Mortgage is not listed as a licenced brokerage, and Larry Zachow is currently still suspended according to the Real Estate Council database.

This may have to do with a dispute between Zachow and a broker who had worked for him, which is discussed in these three cases:

Oberle v. Asset Capital Mortgage Corporation, 2005 ABPC 341: http://canlii.ca/t/1m2m1

Oberle v. Asset Capital Mortgage Corporation, 2005 ABPC 365: http://canlii.ca/t/1m95f

Oberle v. Asset Capital Mortgage Corporation, 2006 ABQB 250: http://canlii.ca/t/1n89x

In brief, Zachow stiffed the broker, alleged he was a thief and engaged in fraud, and for Zachow’s troubles he was ordered to cough up $6,739.67 in commissions that had not been paid, and $1,300 in costs.

Larry also has a further litigation history – and it is an interesting one. News reports link him and his wife, Aida Callagui-Zachow, to assault of their 14 year old daughter. I found the sentencing judgment at the provincial court level:

R. v. L.E.Z., 2010 ABPC 397: http://canlii.ca/t/2f4x4

In brief, the Zachows’ disapproved of the sexual activity of their 14 year old daughter, who was grabbed by the hair, restrained by Larry, had her clothing removed and her legs pulled over her head, and was then strapped by her mother with a belt across the buttocks. The daughter subsequently disclosed the event at school, which led to the charges.

At sentencing Judge Stevens-Guille reported neither parent was remorseful, and the discipline was inappropriate (para. 21):

… They, as it seems does their community simply do not accept the law in Canada with respect to the disciplining of children, or that it does not apply to them because they answer to a higher authority than the Courts.

The pre-sentence reports were negative (para. 36, 47). The court concluded denunciation was necessary (para. 43), and the parents were sentenced to a week in jail, but were released on time served.

A newspaper report of that period (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2010/ ... 39236.html) offers more details, such as that Zachow is apparently a pastor, and had referred to his daughter as a “slut” and “whore”.

The decision was subsequently appealed to the Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench, which does not seem to have led to a reported decision. There is a news report, however (http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/04/19/e ... g-daughter), which indicates that by this point Zachow had clearly adopted OPCA strategies:

However, that was not before the justice was questioned about her allegiance to the Queen, criticized for allowing a "vexatious and frivolous" appeal to be heard and interrupted several times by the convicted father, who represented himself, and his large group of hostile supporters.

…

Earlier, Zachow had demanded to know if Browne had sworn an oath of allegiance to the Queen and argued that he was being "maliciously prosecuted" and all of the charges should be immediately dismissed. He also said he would be forming his own grand jury, to which several of his supporters, who were continuously giving him advice, loudly stated: "hear, hear."

The appeal was by the Crown, and resulted in the Zachows being convicted of assault with a weapon, rather than common assault. The sentence remained the same.

The Zachows’ church is “Truth Ministeries” and its address maps to an unassuming Edmonton private residence.

So, Zachow is some kind of OPCA affiliate, and he has a real estate background – the perfect person to concoct fake or plausible but invalid land titles documents and help spin a tale. Is there any other evidence he is neck deep in this? While his Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/larry.zachow.5) has almost no public content, the friends links are interesting:

Shaunda Petrova (Iam NotHere) (https://www.facebook.com/iam.nothere.3150) – Grande Prairie squatter

Andreas Pirelli (https://www.facebook.com/andreas.pirelli.79) – a.k.a. Mario Antonacci, Senior Chief Justice of the Tacit Supreme in Law Courts

Rob Inthe Pagefamily (https://www.facebook.com/rob.pagefamily) - OPCA guru

Lorene Lund (https://www.facebook.com/lorene.lund.9) – the organizer behind the “Liberation Day” event, and a feminist/new age group in Edmonton, the "Goddesses Lair" (http://www.goddesseslair.org/)

Preston Piotrsson (https://www.facebook.com/Tesserat) - head of the “Infinite Nations”, another Sovran Nations Embassy (https://www.facebook.com/groups/InfiniteNations/) (http://infinitenations.org/)

And a pack of other Canadian Freeman-on-the-Land and OPCA celebrities, including:

Robert Menard (https://www.facebook.com/robert.menard.52) - Freeman has-been

Dean Clifford (https://www.facebook.com/saoirse.nabas) - Freeman soon-to-be has-been

"minister" Edward Jay Robin Belanger (https://www.facebook.com/Romans1129) - head of the Church of the Ecumenical Redemption International

Jacob Hillier (https://www.facebook.com/jehiller) - head of the “Alberta Allodial Prosperity Association” (https://www.facebook.com/groups/Albertaprosperity/) (https://communities.cyclos.org/Albertaprosperity#home)

Glenn Winningham of the House of Fearn (https://www.facebook.com/glenn.fearn) - Sovereign Citizen guru and gun-runner

Nanya Shaabu Eil (https://www.facebook.com/Nanya.Shaabu.EiL) - Chief of the At-Sik-Hata Nation of Yamasee Moors and owner of North America

My guestimate is that the Zachow is the hub of this matter. As for the “Community” repeatedly mentioned by Petrova, if you trace through the various Facebook pages of the people involved the same names come up over and over. What I do not see is public promotion or discussion.

This puzzles me. We know that there are a diverse variety of persons being drawn into the Grande Prairie squat, and not all are obviously linked. I have not seen advertisements for the North Watchman People’s Embassy, but my guess is they must exist. How the recruitment is being conducted I just don’t know.

Redbird, if you’re skulking around, I’d love to hear any perspective you could offer. In an earlier message you say that the squat promoters have split – the Indians have been left out but another group is now merrily selling plots of “allodial land” – would that be the North Watchmen People’s Embassy?

SMS Möwe

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9579&start=20#p163541

Redbird was a short-time poster who commented on the land takeover and players involved. He clearly had inside information. His reply to Mowe was;

Redbird, if you’re skulking around, I’d love to hear any perspective you could offer. In an earlier message you say that the squat promoters have split – the Indians have been left out but another group is now merrily selling plots of “allodial land” – would that be the North Watchmen People’s Embassy?

Yes, I'm here. Its been awhile since I was on. I see you've figured everything out. Yes, Mr. Z has been selling the land and all the fake papers to go with it to dubes and they are STILL buying the land. These idoits plan on moving up to the land as soon as it dries up enough. Mr. Z and his indian friend are still collecting silver, I think it's still 10 or 20 pieces of silver and the new land owners must sign lots of papers (and paying an additional $1,000+ for the privilege of signing the papers) and agreeing not to sue Mr. Z or anyone else involved. If the new land owners try to go to the cops, then Mr. Z will take them to court and sue them for breach of promise or something like that. Mr. Z is some uppty-up guy in the embassy and from what I've heard, he was fired and now he is just selling the land without the embassy's blessing.

Mowe had a follow-up.

One more question - where is Zachow advertising this land purchase scam? I have looked for it online without luck. Do you know how he is connecting with his customers/victims?

He's a sneaky used car salesman kinda guy. He does not advertise anywhere for his land-scam he has a faithful following who come to some kind of "like-minded" meetings every Wednesday and they share this "good deal" to all their friends and family and so on. Mr. Z is not stupid enough to sign his name to the land sales, he gets other dubes to "sell" the property for him. Not sure exactly how it works as I'm getting this information 2nd-hand, but I did see all the paperwork and Mr. Z has not signed the actual titles, etc. I'm waiting to see what happens in the spring when the fools try to move onto "their" land.

Redbird also had this to say about one of the scam's suckers;

Cinderwulf believes the lie! Three native "chiefs" and "other's" sold him the land for 10 pieces of silver and $800, now that the price has gone up to 25 pieces of silver and $1000, the chiefs want their "fair share" of the scam money - time to say goodbye to the chiefs! Now the "others", the greedy non-indians, are selling the crown land and pocketing all the money. The idiots who think they can buy a section of land for about $1700, claim anything sitting on the land like trapper's cabins, oil wells, old growth trees and such need their heads examined! The whole crux of the matter is this - the indians thought All crown land still belongs to them and they only need to write up an allotial title and a bill of sale and whalaa - the land is yours.

I did a Google search for North Watchmen People's Embassy came up with virtually nothing. There's a brief mention in this monumental publication we've already discussed on Quatloos;

https://www.albertalawreview.com/index. ... le/422/418

Another mention in this news report of September 17, 2015 about a couple of American nutcases setting up their own court.

http://lastbestnews.com/site/2015/09/no ... -on-earth/

There is a link to the The North Watchmen People's Embassy website;

http://website.informer.com/nw-pe.org

But the website is dead.

After all the land seizure hubbub died down Zachow seemed to disappear from any web discussion. So I asked Llwelyn, who seemed to know something about it, this question;

Llwellyn, I have a request for you. If you are able to help fill in some gaps for me (and other readers) it would be very interesting to hear anything about Zachow, his organization and their activities. He is involved in the North Watchmen Peoples Embassy and I have searched, in vain, for any sign of him or the Embassy on the internet. Any information on basic issues like how they do their recruitment or advertising would be greatly appreciated.

He has been the object of a number of comments in Quatloos but always peripheral. In this discussion Mowe said;

"You will note that I suspect that beyond the Mr. Piotrsson you met at the identified “Serenity Valley Calm-unity” meeting and Antonacci, that you may have encountered a third key participant in this scheme, a Larry Zachow, an evangelical preacher probably best known for beating his teenaged daughter in response to her sexual activity. Zachow appears to head an affiliate group of Antonacci’s called the North Watchman People’s Embassy.

Now, my guess, supported by another Quatloos poster who appears to have insider information, is that Antonacci / Zachow / Piotrsson’s scheme was that they hooked up with some disgruntled members of one or more aboriginal communities, claimed to have purchased Band land from those aboriginal individuals, then ‘resold’ that land to an assortment of Sovereign Citizen / Freeman-on-the-Land / OPCA type folk."

Mowe was referring to this incident;

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2010/ ... 39236.html

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/04/19/e ... _QuickRead

Reported here;

R. v. L.E.Z., 2012 ABCA 6
R. v. L.E.Z., 2010 ABPC 397

In the Thomas Peterson discussion Belanger/Cudgel was asked;

8. Do you know anything about a land purchase scheme promoted by Andreas Pirelli/Mario Antonacci - the Senior Chief Justice of the Tacit Surpreme In Law Court - who now is awaiting trial in Montreal? I believe his co-schemer in Edmonton was a Larry Zachow, who also apparently heads a Christian church. Do you know if Robert Menard was involved in that scheme? He met with Antonacci during the period the scam was running, and also was in Edmonton at the time I believe Zachow was involved. This would have been after you and Menard traveled together to Edmonton from the west coast.

But he gave no response.

Zachow is also somehow involved with the Tactic Supreme in Law Court but I can't find the connection. He has also given seminars with our notorious gun smuggling felon Glenn Fearn and had been involved in other things with Fearn before Glenn ignominiously scurried out of the country. He seems to have his finger in a lot of pies but I can find nothing but scraps.

As a starting point you commented;

Mr Zachow (not sure if it was Zachow personally, or someone acting on their behalf) was espousing how he took his action to the highest court, and proved that the Bible is the final word in law in Canada, and how he had beaten the court. (if you look this up, he was convicted and I can not find anywhere of it being 'overturned' either)."

I assume you mean the convictions reported in the cases given above which I can confirm were not reversed on appeal. Are there other cases you know about? If so where is the information on them? The only Zachow in Canlii is some trifle about a motorbike accident involving a different Zachow.

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9364&p=177429#p177429

And he replied;

Burnaby49 :

This is indeed the same Zachow, I have been trying to find other information, but other than what is generally posted, this man is a rather .. invisible player.

Yes, to the North Watchmen Peoples Embassy (which is supposedly to be handing out their own license plates, passport?/identification and helping 'remove people from Canada' and other various activities they are doing. This Embassy, is a 'descendant' of the Tacit Supreme in Law Court.. arriving/creating after the wonders of Mr Antonacci's stunt here in Calgary. With his actions the group -reformed?- with Zachow, and a few others as the predominant figures in it. Their presence and communications are rather limited amongst their own group/membership and is very limited to direct exposure. I believe.. they are trying to keep a much more 'low' profile, so they don't get caught, questioned or exposed.

These peoples are behind the scenes, helping/supporting Dean.. AND Menard is definitely involved, as I have been regaled about the wonders of 'Their Police Force' (with direct referencing to the C3PO and forms of it in Edmonton.

The only access to the NWPE (North Watchmen Peoples Embassy) is through a direct user base link, which I have not been able to ferret my way into.. as of yet.

You comment about Mr Fearn, our convict in hiding (back in the USA) .. and he is often ranting and posting to them - the NWPE.. There are also a few other names that have been passed by me, but not enough details for me to be able to find information, or reference them to.. as of yet.

No other known cases for Mr Zachow either. He seems to be more of a 'ghost in the machine'

So while Zachow was clearly associated with some at-one time prominent OPCA types such as Robert Menard, Glenn Fearn, Dean Clifford, and reverend Belanger he kept very quiet about his own activities. He was up to something with his North Watchman People's Embassy but the group, uncharacteristically, was very quiet about whatever they were doing. Now that Zachow's died without bothering to give us a status report first we'll probably never know.

[grixit]

Too bad Mowe had to leave us. Otherwise he could have kept up on that story. All the weight shouldn't have to be on your shoulders.

[Burnaby49]

Too bad Mowe had to leave us. Otherwise he could have kept up on that story. All the weight shouldn't have to be on your shoulders.

He has left me somewhat bereft of backup here in the Canadian forums. Quatloos will have to take a back seat in January. My wife and I start babysitting our (by then) one year old grandson when our daughter-in-law goes back to work. Changing diapers again at 67! Retirement has turned into a full time job.

[notorial dissent]

I concur with Grixit, I really miss Möwe, he had a nice sense of humor and a good view on some of this silliness. May he forever sail in fair weather and calm seas.

If you are taking on the babysitting duties, you will indeed be busy, my best wishes on that. My congratulations and best wishes to your dil.

[Burnaby49]

We probably wouldn't be up to handling full-time babysitting however we are splitting the duty with the other grandparents who are significantly younger than us. One big plus for us is that our son lives just down the road so it's a ten minute commute walking. The other grandparents have a fairly long drive. We'll see how it works out.

Möwe's abrupt disappearance will probably remain forever a mystery. On the run after a multi-million dollar bank heist? Exploring the savage mountain reaches of central New Guinea? Only he can say and he hasn't bothered giving us an update. However, while he was here, he certainly provided content and analysis.

[The Observer]

Möwe's abrupt disappearance will probably remain forever a mystery.

My own theory is that Möwe and Burnaby are in fact the same person. Ask yourself this one very important question: Have you ever seen Möwe and Burnaby together in the same room at the same time? I rest my case.

[Burnaby49]

Möwe's abrupt disappearance will probably remain forever a mystery.

My own theory is that Möwe and Burnaby are in fact the same person. Ask yourself this one very important question: Have you ever seen Möwe and Burnaby together in the same room at the same time? I rest my case.

You've got me! How can anyone argue the logic of that? Now that I'm outed maybe that slackass Hilfskreuzer Möwe half of my secret identity will finally start pulling his weight again. Or at least do some of the babysitting.

[JamesVincent]

I can definitively prove Mowe is not Burnaby. I had multiple conversations with Mowe via PM and not one time was beer mentioned.

[Burnaby49]

Did somebody mention beer?

http://www.slate.com/articles/video/vid ... video.html

However, given that it's Budweiser, it's unfortunate that it didn't drive itself off of a bridge.

[ArthurWankspittle]

Did somebody mention beer?

http://www.slate.com/articles/video/vid ... video.html

However, given that it's Budweiser, it's unfortunate that it didn't drive itself off of a bridge.

The self awareness software isn't finished?

[LordEd]

I can definitively prove Mowe is not Burnaby. I had multiple conversations with Mowe via PM and not one time was beer mentioned.

I had one pm where a beer was mentioned. Definitive proof of Burnaby, or should I say Mr SMS pink squirrel?

[wserra]

Beaver. Please.

[LordEd]

Fine then. Mr SMS Molson Beaver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpj1zgyfScM

[Burnaby49]

My secret life is unravelling faster than I can fix it. My wife and I met Wes in New York last year and Wes can testify that Mowe wasn't there! Absolute conclusive proof that I'm Mowe. Unless, unless, my wife is Mowe and even I don't know it!

[LordEd]

Plot twist: Mowe was actually Dean Clifford and had to stop posting as he had to go to jail.