Moderator: Deep Knight
Tomorrow I will be absconding from The Well Armed Bunker Complex in Ohio to Der Dachshundbunker in Gettysburg Pennsylvania for a week to ride out the election. If the Ascended Masters want to come round me up....The final roundup of the cabal is underway which will open the door for NESARA/GESARA, GCR and RV announcements.
That was a pretty good spiel, actually. Excellent use of detail. The trick is to tie together real-world news stories into an explanation of why the RV cannot happen yet but will happen soon. I especially liked "Guess which candidate is against the RV", as it lets each reader fill in the blank however they wish.NYGman wrote:That was fun, So can I be a Guru now?
Of course, the correct phrasing is "If you need help, I offer a Trust in a box product for $300." Unless you've got a partner handling this, in which case you immediately provide their contact details.NYGman wrote:If you need help, I know a company that has a Trust in a box product for $300, just contact me for their details
I don't know about the "Ascended Masters", but can I ride out the election with you? I mean, we spent two years leading up to this?Gregg wrote:Tomorrow I will be absconding from The Well Armed Bunker Complex in Ohio to Der Dachshundbunker in Gettysburg Pennsylvania for a week to ride out the election. If the Ascended Masters want to come round me up....
Interesting, I originally was going to offer it myself directly, but thought that was too obvious, I went with a partner, who in reality may also be me, to give the sound of Independence. I also wanted to keep the information strictly upon enquiry so that there would be this feeling of being let in on a secret which seems to be something they like. These Guru's seem to offer the path to riches, based on information they only know.TheNewSaint wrote:
But you made one major mistake:
Of course, the correct phrasing is "If you need help, I offer a Trust in a box product for $300." Unless you've got a partner handling this, in which case you immediately provide their contact details.NYGman wrote:If you need help, I know a company that has a Trust in a box product for $300, just contact me for their details
In this scam, you have to earn the credibility before you ask for the money. Dove and the like send many, many informational messages that make no demand for money. It's to construct the narrative, and build credibility. This is a long con. By the time you ask the marks for money, you shouldn't have to prove your bonafides. They should believe that you are the secret insider, not just that you have access to them. They subscribe to your Dinar Guru Newsletter for that very reason; because you offer the super-secret information that will make them rich.NYGman wrote:Interesting, I originally was going to offer it myself directly, but thought that was too obvious, I went with a partner, who in reality may also be me, to give the sound of Independence. I also wanted to keep the information strictly upon enquiry so that there would be this feeling of being let in on a secret which seems to be something they like. These Guru's seem to offer the path to riches, based on information they only know.
Specific is good. Vague time frames like "the election" make people think too much. Some of your marks may not be intimately familiar with the American election calendar.Also do like the suggestion of specific dates, I had misjudged their importance, thinking the events were good markers of time.
Correct. And, there's a third benefit: it avoids offending anyone who might support one candidate or the other. That was another skill of Dove's; she avoided offending anyone. Her evildoers were always "dark forces" or otherwise vague. Yeah, sometimes you have to say j'accuse at the US president or other world leader to keep the story believable, but you want to avoid turning anyone off politically. People who are mentally invested in your fantasy world will still have mental investments in real-world issues, political parties, and so forth.I am glad you liked the one candidate thing. That was my favorite part too. Let the reader fill in the facts, but also lays the groundwork for failure without having to predict which will actually win. Often it isn't what you say, but what you don't say...
Even better: let's start one about the German Reichsmark or the Confederate dollar RV-ing.Jeffrey wrote:Would it be evil to start a rumor about the Bolivar RV'ing?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 43596.html
There's also the Hungarian pengo, from between the two World Wars up to just after the second one.notorial dissent wrote:I think Weimar currency would be a good choice too, worth every bit as little as the ZD, and may well have outdone it considering the time.
I have a bunch of this I got from my father's things. He was in the Infantry in WWII, and in Germany just east of the border city of Aachen was in a small town being shelled by the Germans as his unit advanced. An "88" hit an adjacent house and blew its attic to smithereens, causing a thick flurry of "Weimar" inflation-era large-denomination currency to flutter down on him and his buddies. He said there were "thousands of notes" and he only took a handful as souvenirs. An anti-Nazi German who had lived in the US for a while and stayed in the town, told my father that the owner of the house believed that "they had to be worth something someday" and kept as much as he could acquire. The "RV" believer was also a fanatic Nazi who informed on his neighbors, and the person my father talked to was delighted that German SS troops had destroyed his home. The region around Aachen (Aix-de-Chapelle in French) was friendly with France, Belgium and The Netherlands, so the war was not all that popular there. My father went to mass at a Catholic church in the nearby border town of Monshau, and the congregation there welcomed him enthusiastically.notorial dissent wrote:I think Weimar currency would be a good choice too, worth every bit as little as the ZD, and may well have outdone it considering the time.
I have some "Kriegsgeld" from the last years of the war, when coinage of copper and silver coins had all but stopped and there was a coin shortage; and I also have some Notgeld of this and other types. Some of these emergency coins are made of iron, some of steel, some of aluminum and some of zinc.Deep Knight wrote:I have a bunch of this I got from my father's things. He was in the Infantry in WWII, and in Germany just east of the border city of Aachen was in a small town being shelled by the Germans as his unit advanced. An "88" hit an adjacent house and blew its attic to smithereens, causing a thick flurry of "Weimar" inflation-era large-denomination currency to flutter down on him and his buddies. He said there were "thousands of notes" and he only took a handful as souvenirs. An anti-Nazi German who had lived in the US for a while and stayed in the town, told my father that the owner of the house believed that "they had to be worth something someday" and kept as much as he could acquire. The "RV" believer was also a fanatic Nazi who informed on his neighbors, and the person my father talked to was delighted that German SS troops had destroyed his home. The region around Aachen (Aix-de-Chapelle in French) was friendly with France, Belgium and The Netherlands, so the war was not all that popular there. My father went to mass at a Catholic church in the nearby border town of Monshau, and the congregation there welcomed him enthusiastically.notorial dissent wrote:I think Weimar currency would be a good choice too, worth every bit as little as the ZD, and may well have outdone it considering the time.
BTW, he also had some WWI-era Imperial German banknotes, 50 marks each (also demonetized) and a dozen 1920 "Notgeld" coins. This "emergency money" was made of non-precious metal (sometimes plated steel) and issued in cities and regions that needed something to allow trade during this period of when the central government was in name only. 1920 was his birth year, and when he found some from cities he was near, Aachen, Bonn and Dusseldorf, he kept them. Some from Bonn have Beethoven on them.
I once bought a friend of mine named Martin a 1954 half peso coin from Argentina. Made of nickel-plated steel, it was the largest coin made that year and called a "Martin" because it had a portrait of Jose de San Martin on it. After the many changes in currency, this was worth about 5 trillionths of a cent US ($0.00000000000005) at the time I gave it to him. He was delighted, telling me he had "never been given something that worthless before." He had it made into a watch bob, that rusted at the drilled hole.
That's actually kind of true.those of us who have been delayed continually from exchanging our currencies are now squarely facing – an ‘in your face’ scam.
I had never heard of Kriegsgeld (or for that matter Notgeld before I looked it up) but the story is fascinating. I do have some small Nazi coins (5 & 10 pfennig) from the later years of the war in zinc - particularly ugly, almost black coins that are hard to read. Appropriate for things with Nazi symbols on them. Again, they were from my father and I'm trying to decide what to do with them, to be honest I don't want anything with Nazi symbols in my house - bad juju don't cha know, but then again since my father carried them through the last days of the war I don't want to throw them away either.Pottapaug1938 wrote:I have some "Kriegsgeld" from the last years of the war, when coinage of copper and silver coins had all but stopped and there was a coin shortage; and I also have some Notgeld of this and other types. Some of these emergency coins are made of iron, some of steel, some of aluminum and some of zinc.