Losing Your Home, Crawford Style

[getoutofdebtfools]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLjrge3 ... u.be&t=175

Glorious

[Normal Wisdom]

Isn't there a YouTube video before the eviction, where Tom says 'we this morning received a warrant for possession'?

Tom would not have received a warrant of possession. They are not issued to the occupier of the property. I have no doubt that he received a notice of eviction.

Subsequently when the inglorious Amanda admits that they have the warrant in their possession but it needs to be "analysed', she is setting up the inevitable conclusion that although it looks like a warrant, it is not a legitimate document because it doesn't have the judges signature, an embossed seal etc etc etc. Tom et al will never accept that these requirements are entirely spurious so whether he receives a copy or the original delivered on a velvet cushion he will continue to maintain that a proper warrant has never been issued.

[Bones]

There is also a video, made I think by Craig, which shows an attempt on the day of the eviction for a copy of the warrant to be given to Tom but as he was by then in 100% full freetard mode, it didn't happen

The Blue folder comes out after Tom demanded the warrant and as he is about to see it, he kicks off, with Sue trying to quote some CPR rule

[getoutofdebtfools]

There is also a video, made I think by Craig, which shows an attempt on the day of the eviction for a copy of the warrant to be given to Tom but as he was by then in 100% full freetard mode, it didn't happen

The Blue folder comes out after Tom demanded the warrant and as he is about to see it, he kicks off, with Sue trying to quote some CPR rule

Spot on. If he hadn't kicked off he would have had another copy of it to add to the other copies of it he now has. But as it wasn't signed by God himself in Jesus' blood it would clearly be a Unicorn.

[Angolvagyok]

There is also a video, made I think by Craig, which shows an attempt on the day of the eviction for a copy of the warrant to be given to Tom but as he was by then in 100% full freetard mode, it didn't happen

The Blue folder comes out after Tom demanded the warrant and as he is about to see it, he kicks off, with Sue trying to quote some CPR rule

Here you go, timestamped:

https://youtu.be/9wsXnyT7nKc?t=15m2s

[Bones]

I know this is now old hat but as it is xmas and Tom is the gift that keeps giving

https://youtu.be/9wsXnyT7nKc?t=12m5s

Whilst Sue tells Tom that there is no warrant - she is strangely able to confirm that it isn't signed and doesn't have a stamp on it - even though she is claiming not to have even seen it

Sue claims to have paid for her house - when she knows she had not been paying for the endowment
Sue claims that they won their court case - when obviously they didn't
Sue claims that she hasn't been shown the warrant - when she later claims it isn't signed and doesn't have a seal

This one video - made by her own son Craig, I feel is one of the most daming pieces of evidence against the claims made by the Crawfrauds and we have their own son to thank for it

[Angolvagyok]

This one video - made by her own son Craig, I feel is one of the most daming pieces of evidence against the claims made by the Crawfrauds and we have their own son to thank for it

It's not filmed by Craig, he's stuck at the end of the road debating breach of the peace with some PC's: https://youtu.be/9wsXnyT7nKc?t=25m46s

I think it was Amanda that filmed this, the other daughter's getting the dogs out of the house

[SoLongCeylon]

I know this is now old hat but as it is xmas and Tom is the gift that keeps giving

https://youtu.be/9wsXnyT7nKc?t=12m5s

Whilst Sue tells Tom that there is no warrant - she is strangely able to confirm that it isn't signed and doesn't have a stamp on it - even though she is claiming not to have even seen it

Sue claims to have paid for her house - when she knows she had not been paying for the endowment
Sue claims that they won their court case - when obviously they didn't
Sue claims that she hasn't been shown the warrant - when she later claims it isn't signed and doesn't have a seal

This one video - made by her own son Craig, I feel is one of the most daming pieces of evidence against the claims made by the Crawfrauds and we have their own son to thank for it

It is amazing how nearly 18 months on from the eviction, recorded in posterity for us, the crawford case still provides interest. For me, it is down to the sheer stupidity of their actions, the very predictable outcome and the fact Crawford went ahead and threw his house away.

Does anyone still hear from YiamCross? I guess he has had to retreat to protect himself and family.

Merry Christmas to you all.

[Bones]

This one video - made by her own son Craig, I feel is one of the most daming pieces of evidence against the claims made by the Crawfrauds and we have their own son to thank for it

It's not filmed by Craig, he's stuck at the end of the road debating breach of the peace with some PC's: https://youtu.be/9wsXnyT7nKc?t=25m46s

I think it was Amanda that filmed this, the other daughter's getting the dogs out of the house

Indeed you are correct.

I had always assumed that Craig had filmed it, based purely on him posting it to youtube. However, there is one "scene" where you can hear the voice of the person filming and it is a female voice, just as Sue calls out to the other daughter.

[Bones]

It is amazing how nearly 18 months on from the eviction, recorded in posterity for us, the crawford case still provides interest. For me, it is down to the sheer stupidity of their actions, the very predictable outcome and the fact Crawford went ahead and threw his house away.

Does anyone still hear from YiamCross? I guess he has had to retreat to protect himself and family.

Merry Christmas to you all.

For me part of the draw are the lies - they claim one thing but disprove their own lies.

They say there was not warrant

Tom would have got a copy, had he not gone full retard on the day of the eviction.
Amanda, has confirmed that they were also subsequently sent a copy..
In the court budle for the rooftop idiots, there was a further copy of the warrant.

Sometimes I do pity Tom. He is now stuck in the freetard world, even if he was to wake up and realise that all the advice provided by Ebert, Taylor, Colon, O'Bernicia and O'Dercia was as bad as we all already know, he is too far down the rabbit hole to come back up. His pride will stop him admitting to himself.

The part I don't understand and never have really understand is his children. Why hasn't Amanda and Craig tried to make him see sense. Instead Amanda and Craig are just encouraging him

[Firthy2002]

The part I don't understand and never have really understand is his children. Why hasn't Amanda and Craig tried to make him see sense. Instead Amanda and Craig are just encouraging him

The woo can be a powerful thing, especially in chorus.
TC has surrounded himself with many people backing him up with the same thing repeated ad nauseum.

[Chaos]

The part I don't understand and never have really understand is his children. Why hasn't Amanda and Craig tried to make him see sense. Instead Amanda and Craig are just encouraging him

and it seems they are pretty much doing the opposite and paying like good soldiers to have places to live themselves.

[doublelong]

This one video - made by her own son Craig, I feel is one of the most daming pieces of evidence against the claims made by the Crawfrauds and we have their own son to thank for it

It's not filmed by Craig, he's stuck at the end of the road debating breach of the peace with some PC's: https://youtu.be/9wsXnyT7nKc?t=25m46s

I think it was Amanda that filmed this, the other daughter's getting the dogs out of the house

Indeed you are correct.

I had always assumed that Craig had filmed it, based purely on him posting it to youtube. However, there is one "scene" where you can hear the voice of the person filming and it is a female voice, just as Sue calls out to the other daughter.

It was a neighbour that filmed this she lived across the road and was a supporter from the very beginning. Anyone who remembers the video shot by DerbJd that he has now removed showing the group of people guarding castle crawford while Tom was at court in May 2015, she offered to make coffee.
I wonder why Tom has never uploaded the footage from the police video evidence, he must of got t by now, or maybe it shows to much?

[TheNewSaint]

Why hasn't Amanda and Craig tried to make him see sense.

They'd have to see sense themselves first. They're as ignorant and suggestible as Tom is.

[noblepa]

The part I don't understand and never have really understand is his children. Why hasn't Amanda and Craig tried to make him see sense. Instead Amanda and Craig are just encouraging him

and it seems they are pretty much doing the opposite and paying like good soldiers to have places to live themselves.

To be fair to the Crawfords, they don't seem to be arguing that they never had to pay for the house on Fern Chase, or that others don't have to pay for theirs.

They are arguing that they paid their mortgage more or less faithfully for 25 years. In fact, they paid more than they borrowed in the first place. The term of the loan was 25 years; they paid for 25 years. So, in their minds, they've satisfied the mortgage. They just don't understand (or choose not to understand) that they were only paying the interest.

[Chaos]

The part I don't understand and never have really understand is his children. Why hasn't Amanda and Craig tried to make him see sense. Instead Amanda and Craig are just encouraging him

and it seems they are pretty much doing the opposite and paying like good soldiers to have places to live themselves.

To be fair to the Crawfords, they don't seem to be arguing that they never had to pay for the house on Fern Chase, or that others don't have to pay for theirs.

They are arguing that they paid their mortgage more or less faithfully for 25 years. In fact, they paid more than they borrowed in the first place. The term of the loan was 25 years; they paid for 25 years. So, in their minds, they've satisfied the mortgage. They just don't understand (or choose not to understand) that they were only paying the interest.

I would agree if it weren't their 'money out of thin air' argument.

[Bones]

There has been the usual rubbish on TV over Christmas. I hope the documentary that Tom and Chrisy Morris are staring in, is on soon.

I hear that it is now going to be showing on the Comedy Channel

[daltontrumbno]

There has been the usual rubbish on TV over Christmas. I hope the documentary that Tom and Chrisy Morris are staring in, is on soon.

I hear that it is now going to be showing on the Comedy Channel

Channel 4 listed the show as one of the six documentaries in the autumn 2016 series of Cutting edge all the other shows have now been shown but no sign of Bailiff Buster's, Channel 4 have since announced the next series of Cutting edge but no mention of Bailiff Busters, so it looks like it may have been quietly dropped.

[aesmith]

This was posted in another thread here ..

Insisting somebody repays their mortgage is selfish and greedy is it? Tom Crawford should've got a free house because... <complete in 500 words or less>

That got me thinking, have the Crawfords ever given a reason why they think they don't have to pay their mortgage, even a stupid reason unsupported by the facts? All I think that I've seen are arguments about the process of repossession, like whether a fee was paid, or whether B&B calculated the amount of default correctly.

[letissier14]

They first stated they knew they had to pay the outstanding mortgage amount, but then claimed the endowment should cover it and that they had paid the endowment in full, but the bank had lost it. They then moved on to the court fees not being paid and the warrant being fake etc. Then they claimed they weren't lent anything to start with and all money is fake and the bank lent them nothing, before going back to having never received the warrant, to having received a fraudulent warrant, to have never seen any warrant. I think that about covers their story