Baron David Ward

[JimUk1]

What a Walter Mitty.

I'm very sure he hasn't got half of those qualifications- HNC has only just changed to a level 4 and was a level 5 until recently, top been 7 in the engineering discipline.

And para-legal? Don't you have to work in the law etc to be one of those?

I'm willing to certify him has a full blown loon though!

What abbreviations could we use for that?

[ArthurWankspittle]

And para-legal? Don't you have to work in the law etc to be one of those?

There is no reason to be a para-legal without working in the law or estate agency. I would expect a Para-Legal to either have a law degree or a shed load of mortgage and property related training. I would also expect that there is a legally qualified person somewhere further up the hierarchy with eventual liability. However, AFAIK Para-legal isn't a protected title so anyone can call themselves it.

[JimUk1]

And para-legal? Don't you have to work in the law etc to be one of those?

There is no reason to be a para-legal without working in the law or estate agency. I would expect a Para-Legal to either have a law degree or a shed load of mortgage and property related training. I would also expect that there is a legally qualified person somewhere further up the hierarchy with eventual liability. However, AFAIK Para-legal isn't a protected title so anyone can call themselves it.

Interesting. I would have thought any person offering condensed legal advice would of had to have at minimum insurerance for safe guard, as we have all seen the consequences of Internet "lawful/legal" advice.

[notorial dissent]

Just because they call themselves a Para-Legal doesn't necessarily mean they are. In the US, in the jurisdictions I'm familiar with, to call yourself a paralegal, you have to have had schooling, and been certified and licensed, and then you only work under an actual lawyer. Every now and a again we have people show up claiming to be paralegals and offering their services. Most of the time they were never even paralegals to begin with, just someone who thought they'd found a new scam angle. ALWAYS ends badly for the people taking the advice. I pretty much suspect this is the case.

One bit of sovcit hooey that I have yet to come across in the UK is the almighty Notary. In certain sovcit mythologies the notary is better than judges for doing things, just issue a notarial protest on anything, declare them in dishonor and default, and you're home free.

[ArthurWankspittle]

And para-legal? Don't you have to work in the law etc to be one of those?

There is no reason to be a para-legal without working in the law or estate agency. I would expect a Para-Legal to either have a law degree or a shed load of mortgage and property related training. I would also expect that there is a legally qualified person somewhere further up the hierarchy with eventual liability. However, AFAIK Para-legal isn't a protected title so anyone can call themselves it.

Interesting. I would have thought any person offering condensed legal advice would of had to have at minimum insurerance for safe guard, as we have all seen the consequences of Internet "lawful/legal" advice.

That was the point of my highlighted part - the para-legal would only act under the supervision of a legal professional who would hold indemnity insurance. For instance, my house was bought with a para-legal doing practically all of the work. Any complications and they would have immediately referred the issue to a qualified solicitor.
Regarding nd's comment, I doubt para-legal is a protected title unlike solicitor, doctor, architect etc. in the UK.

[He Who Knows]

We've already established that Baron David Ward has been "helping" Rekha Patel with passing the parcel of her sham companies (he was director of 'Land & Property Protection Alliance Ltd' for two weeks which first bought Patel Cottage for 2 quid). Being the big I.T. guy, I wonder if the Baron knows the I.T. ex-director of I.T. company, 'Geek2Door Ltd', Peter McDowell, who is current director of Tunkashila Ltd who've just bought "Patel Cottage" for £100? After all, McDowell does live in between Warrington (Baron's residence) and Glossop (Patel's residence) near Wythenshaw at 10 Padworth Walk, Brooklands, Manchester M23 9AT.

[Pottapaug1938]

Just because they call themselves a Para-Legal doesn't necessarily mean they are. In the US, in the jurisdictions I'm familiar with, to call yourself a paralegal, you have to have had schooling, and been certified and licensed, and then you only work under an actual lawyer. Every now and a again we have people show up claiming to be paralegals and offering their services. Most of the time they were never even paralegals to begin with, just someone who thought they'd found a new scam angle. ALWAYS ends badly for the people taking the advice. I pretty much suspect this is the case.

One bit of sovcit hooey that I have yet to come across in the UK is the almighty Notary. In certain sovcit mythologies the notary is better than judges for doing things, just issue a notarial protest on anything, declare them in dishonor and default, and you're home free.

In some states, as I recall, notaries have greater powers than I have in Massachusetts; and in certain countries, a "notario" has even greater powers, which is why Massachusetts does not allow the use of the term "notario" within the state.

[Hercule Parrot]

We've already established that Baron David Ward has been "helping" Rekha Patel with passing the parcel of her sham companies (he was director of 'Land & Property Protection Alliance Ltd' for two weeks which first bought Patel Cottage for 2 quid). .....

Well, she can't lose then....

[SteveUK]

Another day, another 100 pages.

The comments about village idiots and legal paperwork did make me chuckle though.

UNPLUG UPDATE......

Every Day across this world people are bombarded by legal paperwork from claims made by village idiots in Government office.

How are these village idiots ever going to know that they are village idiots if nobody ever sends them the incontestable material evidence that they are village idiots and ridicule the crap out of them for being imbeciles? How are they ever going to Know???

As it is that I am in progress of a private agreement between the parties where six Judges are formally agreeing to be criminals and putting a security lien on their candy arse then the Judges clearly don’t like this fact but they can’t do anything about it either.

Consequently there is obnoxious, obfuscatory and misleading narrative coming from the paper shufflers of the courts. These office village idiots don’t have a clue. But how will they ever learn if we don’t let them know? We can’t let them continue being village idiots can we? So we have to make some sort of effort to de-compartmentalise the village idiots in office. How hard can it be?

http://bit.ly/2kEvlqQ

There is a really nice Document Pack going out to the Courts in St Helens this afternoon with today’s Opportunities to resolve and stuff. We have an updated Bit-ly links for those that can be bothered to give a crap.

Deputy District Judge Buckley http://bit.ly/2iZrW8J http://bit.ly/2i8zGRm http://bit.ly/2iUzN4Q http://bit.ly/2k4HKYE http://bit.ly/2kaHpmZ
Deputy District Judge Masheder http://bit.ly/2jkAJib http://bit.ly/2iUjTHL http://bit.ly/2j9soOP http://bit.ly/2iC0r5C http://bit.ly/2jwSMop
Deputy District Judge Woodward http://bit.ly/2iuXQ9P http://bit.ly/2ivcbCU http://bit.ly/2jojldE http://bit.ly/2iRKYwU http://bit.ly/2jbM0G0
District Judge Fitzgerald http://bit.ly/2iV3x3G http://bit.ly/2i8CCxx http://bit.ly/2iZxVdS http://bit.ly/2iRIBtU http://bit.ly/2jx0OgM
District Judge Gray http://bit.ly/2iUrial http://bit.ly/2i5Dd82 http://bit.ly/2iUAlIb http://bit.ly/2k0zR2G http://bit.ly/2kdjAuv
District Judge Lateef
WA14D00277-06-11-2015 http://bit.ly/2iZy294 http://bit.ly/2i5IPil http://bit.ly/2j9BURR http://bit.ly/2jHI3ou
WA14D00277-18-12-2015 http://bit.ly/2i8DFNZ http://bit.ly/2jkzO1e http://bit.ly/2iJFPDZ http://bit.ly/2kxojox
WA14D00277-27-05-2016 http://bit.ly/2j9g4hH http://bit.ly/2jkJEA5 http://bit.ly/2jkI8xV http://bit.ly/2k4OqWY http://bit.ly/2kEvazC

[exiledscouser]

Looks to me like his buddies Gillian & and Elaine at St Helens Family Court have just 'unfriended' the self-ennobled one.

I liked this bit from his latest rant;

We have an updated Bit-ly links for those that can be bothered to give a crap.

I'm not sure who he is addressing as it is clear that none of the recipients of his missives give even the slightest of craps. It's not like he's pausing to write new stuff, just recycling the same bilge from earlier. Even the most addled adherent must be getting a bit pissed off with the endless repetition.

Here's the universal response;



The Baron loves to foist his own unilateral 'agreements' on those in his sights (Silence creates a binding agreement) yet with breath-taking hypocrisy denies the right of anyone to have statutes apply to him unless each and every one (no exceptions mind) 65m+ Brit Cits all agree they should.

Anyway, what has been achieved by this latest round of emails from the Big B?

Nothing.

[NYGman]

Just wondering if he can track the clicks via bit.ly and is finding only a few clicks (Likely mostly us) and is getting a bit frustrated by the lack of clicks. Be funny to see him view total clicks = 4 (With one being him)

[SteveUK]

I'd love to see someone foist an agreement on the bearded one, or perhaps even lien him.

That'd really test the mettle of his belief in them.

[TheNewSaint]

Sheesh, this is like one of Paul Andrew Mitchell's demand letters:

Total agreed debt as resolution for the above listed criminal offences equals thirty million pounds GBP £30,000,000.00

That's £5,000,000.00 per count, which are:

• 1. Claiming to possess some form of authority
• 2. Malfeasance
• 3. Terrorism
• 4. Fraud by misrepresentation
• 5. Malfeasance
• 6. Terrorism

#5 and #6 are identical to #2 and #3. If he's alleging these are two separate incidents, he doesn't bother listing the dates of each. I guess the accused did exactly two acts of terrorism and malfeasance. And count #1 would seem to include count #4. Sloppy prosecution work there, Baron. The judge should easily be able to get this down to 15 million pounds.

Please make remedy by way of commercial instruments or personal cheque to the above address. If this is by personal cheque then please make the cheque in the name of David Ward.

Not "Baron David Ward." Hmm. I guess those evil banks refuse to recognize his baronialness. There was an early Family Guy episode along these lines: Peter finds out he has a black ancestor, and goes around calling himself Kitschwa. When Mr. Pewterschmidt offers reparations, he immediately says "make that payable to Peter, P-E-T-E-R..."

And I always wonder... do these people really think anyone will pay? Does Baron David Ward eagerly go to his mailbox every day, hoping there will be a cheque from a judge for 30,000,000 pounds in it? Do they believe their own bullshit that much?

Also, I liked this part:

[The economy was destabilised] generations ago when the government licensed fraudulent Banking Practice by that we mean Federal Reserve Banking practices, fractional lending and quantitative easing.

Federal Reserve Bank? Don't you mean Bank of England? And quantitative easing is a very modern practice.

It could be said that to take this action is to destabilise the economy. Are we destabilising Government?

For 30 million pounds? Get over yourself. That amount wouldn't destabilize the economy or government of Burundi, even it was real money and not merely the ravings of an utter wacko.

[Bones]

And I always wonder... do these people really think anyone will pay? Does Baron David Ward eagerly go to his mailbox every day, hoping there will be a cheque from a judge for 30,000,000 pounds in it? Do they believe their own bullshit that much?

This is the baron in his earlier days, whenever the post came through his letter box



and then after checking his post

[SteveUK]

We must've missed this buried in David's rant over in Wrecker Patel's post.

Has the social wangled him a stay of execution? If so, is it an indication he's truly regarded as vulnerable?

[rumpelstilzchen]

If nothing else that is an admission by him that all of his emails, his Notices, his liens and the rest of his pseudo legal bollocks had no effect in law and did not stop the Order for Possession. It was only when Social Services stepped in did anything happen.

[longdog]

If it's true that social services have managed to get the order stayed for the time being it suggests he is either cooperating with them to at least some extent or that social services have gained some sort of power of attorney.

Either way the good baron's status as a 'vulnerable person' or even just 'as mad as cheese' won't stop the possession it'll just delay it a little bit to allow him or social services time to find somewhere new for him to live.

[ArthurWankspittle]

Sorry but I don't believe Social Services have got Santander to formally stay the possession order. That would require a court hearing and if the Baron had got a stay to the possession order we would have heard him shouting about it. Social Services might have put it to the Baron that he is a vulnerable person and needs more time to sort out his accommodation. They might have contacted Santander and explained the situation and Santander have push his case down the list as a favour, but, in law, there's nothing to stop Santander saying this guy is taking the mick and pressing the button to evict him.
Catch 22 for the Baron of course - either he's a deluded nutter who needs help or he's right and everyone else is wrong and he will have to face up to Santander on his own.

[SteveUK]

It's quite funny to see the baron relying on the courts , or trying , to delay the inevitable.

But remove folks - it's the "first" time it's ever happened lol a true trailblazer....

[longdog]

Sorry but I don't believe Social Services have got Santander to formally stay the possession order. That would require a court hearing and if the Baron had got a stay to the possession order we would have heard him shouting about it. Social Services might have put it to the Baron that he is a vulnerable person and needs more time to sort out his accommodation. They might have contacted Santander and explained the situation and Santander have push his case down the list as a favour, but, in law, there's nothing to stop Santander saying this guy is taking the mick and pressing the button to evict him.
Catch 22 for the Baron of course - either he's a deluded nutter who needs help or he's right and everyone else is wrong and he will have to face up to Santander on his own.

I suspect that somewhere in the depths of the Santander legal department there is somebody with specialised training and/or long experience in dealing with vulnerable people and their support services and I assume they would have the authority to say "OK... We'll hold off for X number of days to give you time to lay down yo thang" but as you say... It's highly unlikely this has been back to court.

I suppose there's a very slim chance the court of protection have become involved with this and delayed things a little bit (assuming they have the power to intervene at all which is pure guesswork on my part) but the possession order is a done deal and isn't going to be overturned. Even if Trampbeard, his social workers and a whole flock of qualified lawyers tried to overturn the order on the grounds of vulnerability they would get nowhere. Vulnerable people aren't exempt from having to pay their debts and I doubt the court would even entertain an argument that could've and should've been made at the time.

As I understand it the only way a vulnerable person gets out of having to pay is if they weren't competent to sign the loan agreement / mortgage / whatever in the first place which clearly does apply to BTB and even if it did the court would only put things back the way they were before the loan was taken out. The bank get their money back or the house in lieu thereof and Baron Trampbeard gives them the money or the house. Either way he's not going to keep the house without paying for it.