George Tsigarides - The Stupid FOI archives

[SteveUK]

Unphased by his rejection , it's time to double down

Dear General Register Office,

Further to my last email, please confirm how I can declare myself one of the “free sovereign and independent people of the United Kingdom” described by the Definitive Treaty of Peace called the Treaty of Paris, 1783, Article III and NOT an “inhabitant”— NOT a British Crown subject nor subject of any kind.

[JimUk1]

The treaty of Paris was between the British and the USA, to recognise the 13 states if I remember correctly?

And just had a look at article 3 since George is so keen to highlight it-

Granting fishing rights to United States fishermen in the Grand Banks, off the coast of Newfoundland and in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence;

Is George a free fish of the sea now?

[notorial dissent]

George carries stupidity and functional illiteracy to whole new dimensions.

[Pottapaug1938]

The treaty of Paris was between the British and the USA, to recognise the 13 states if I remember correctly?

And just had a look at article 3 since George is so keen to highlight it-

Granting fishing rights to United States fishermen in the Grand Banks, off the coast of Newfoundland and in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence;

Is George a free fish of the sea now?

There's an easy way for George to bring himself within the scope of the 1783 treaty -- come over here and become a US citizen. However, meaning no disrespect to our British friends, I'd just as soon have George stay on his side of the pond.

There are just two problems. First of all, the treaty makes no mention of “free sovereign and independent people of the United Kingdom”. It only names the individual states which are being recognized as independent. Second, our laws aren't terribly friendly to the kinds of fantasies which he holds... but facts can be SO inconvenient, sometimes....

[norrha]

Second, our laws aren't terribly friendly to the kinds of fantasies which he holds

I would argue otherwise! The first Amendment guarantees his being free to hold those "fantasies" without fear of persecution or prosecution.

[TheNewSaint]

our laws aren't terribly friendly to the kinds of fantasies which he holds...

And the people who respond to FOIA requests are a lot quicker to tell you to shove off.

[Pottapaug1938]

Second, our laws aren't terribly friendly to the kinds of fantasies which he holds

I would argue otherwise! The first Amendment guarantees his being free to hold those "fantasies" without fear of persecution or prosecution.

That's true; but people like George like to ACT upon their fantasies, and that's where the laws take a dim view of people like George.

[TheNewSaint]

He seems to have gotten this idea from prolific nutbag Anna von Reitz:

There are two kinds of people in this country according to the Definitive Treaty of Peace known as the Treaty of Paris, 1783, Article III and they are-- "the free sovereign and independent people of the United States" and the "inhabitants"-- British Loyalists and subjects of the British Crown who were allowed to stay here after the Revolutionary War.

Here's the full text of it. As has already pointed out, it says nothing of the sort, and Article 3 (not "III") pertains to fishing rights.

[ArthurWankspittle]

The treaty of Paris was between the British and the USA, to recognise the 13 states if I remember correctly?

And just had a look at article 3 since George is so keen to highlight it-

Granting fishing rights to United States fishermen in the Grand Banks, off the coast of Newfoundland and in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence;

Is George a free fish of the sea now?

No, but we will have him under Admiralty Law if he takes this option.

[SteveUK]

We all remember George's hilarious FOI to southern water regarding their refusal to accept were cheques:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ment-70788

Well, look what recently popped up on goodf. I'm sure this is our hero George:



The loon is considering court action against them!

http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/v ... OT36Tx4WEc

[Dr. Caligari]

The responses he gets are unusually logical for GOOFers.

[Burnaby49]

Well we all saw how Peter rode to the rescue when the Parlees were in trouble after following his WeRE schemes.

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10878

So George should be fine once Peter steps in.

[Angolvagyok]

George has popped up on https://www.facebook.com/groups/practicallawfuldissent/, handing out whatever you would call this kind of thing:

When all capital letters are used, it is not English but Latin, and it is the language of the dead - just look at all the tombstones





In the comments to this, can't work out how to directly link it:

[rumpelstilzchen]

George is completely wrong about gravestones. Many gravestones display the name of the deceased in mixed case. Some in beautiful copperplate. I had exactly the same argument three or four years ago on tpuc with an idiot poster who used the name "E type". I told him he was wrong and he repeatedly asked me to prove him wrong. Over the next two or three weeks he kept doing the "tumbleweed routine" or asking me if the cat had got my tongue and did lots of posts with "still waiting for the proof". So I gave him the proof. I went to my local churchyard, photograped half a dozen graves which had the name in mixed case and posted them on tpuc. Quite a few members hit the roof and that fuckwit Ben had to step in. He deleted every photo and banned me.

[NYGman]

George is completely wrong about gravestones. Many gravestones display the name of the deceased in mixed case. Some in beautiful copperplate. ... I went to my local churchyard, photograped half a dozen graves which had the name in mixed case and posted them on tpuc.

Don't even have to leave your house anymore, have at it: https://www.findagrave.com/

[on a side not, my wife found the above site, by accident, while doing family research on her family, and was quite surprised a site like that existed, and that it had many family tombstones available to look out. She found it a bit creepy, but have a look around, who knows who you will find]

[littleFred]

... So I gave him the proof. ...

I remember that gravestone spat on TPUC because it was a good example of how idiots simply believed what other idiots said on the internet, without doing the simplest of checks for themselves, and their hostility to any evidence that contradicted their belief. Which makes them easy prey for Peter of England etc.

[jonathan01n]

I found this request about legal "name" is pretty much hilarious.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ment-82414

This is about - Right to travel again -
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ment-82471

This makes me roll on the floor
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... _have_paid

[Siegfried Shrink]

I think there should be an "Off Your Facebook" where the bizarrely motivated could play apart from the normal people and where their drearily recycled obsessions could be monitored and mocked in a more compact form.

Thanks for taking the time to dig out these little nuggets, or more accurately, butt-nuggets.

[jonathan01n]

I think there should be an "Off Your Facebook" where the bizarrely motivated could play apart from the normal people and where their drearily recycled obsessions could be monitored and mocked in a more compact form.

Thanks for taking the time to dig out these little nuggets, or more accurately, butt-nuggets.

In fact, there are more. Some are about "Birth certificate", council tax and jurisdiction etc. Those requests makes me laugh. I have to say the FOI staff still answer those question professionally. If I am the person answering foi I would say get off and go away and something like that.

[Gregg]

I should think that the answer to most of these should be

Your questions does not request information about a government record, it asks for a legal opinion. Since we cannot provide legal advice, we suggest you either consult competent legal professionals or phuck right off.