"practical lawful dissent" fmotl advisory group

[SteveUK]

BREAKING!!!1

The bailiffs have turned up for Margo , and she's broadcasting it live via PLD's page.

The advice and live commentary is hilarious

[JimUk1]

I simply love Charles Spencer's comment-

"Tell the police I Charles Ernest Spencer are watching them".

Even tho he's not physically there!!


Oh this is brilliant!

[SteveUK]

Not on oath lol

[AndyPandy]

Notice no comment from their illustrious useless leader, no doubt when the dust has settled it will be all Margo's fault for not correctly following the process and she'll be quietly removed from the group.

[JimUk1]

Notice no comment from their illustrious useless leader, no doubt when the dust has settled it will be all Margo's fault for not correctly following the process and she'll be quietly removed from the group.

I'll second that! David already planted the "you're doing it wrong" seed a few posts ago.

[doublelong]

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/1477379 ... nal_boxer/

Seems Ollie Pinnock is a professional Boxer. Although he was due to fight in December 2016, I can't find anymore lined up?

Perhaps his freeman beliefs are hampering him!?

I don't think that's him as it says he is from Leigh near Manchester.

[TheCoz]

Whats the Margo story? Are bailiffs there to evict or to get money?

Been out of the loop on this one.

[NYGman]

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/1477379 ... nal_boxer/

Seems Ollie Pinnock is a professional Boxer. Although he was due to fight in December 2016, I can't find anymore lined up?

Perhaps his freeman beliefs are hampering him!?

I don't think that's him as it says he is from Leigh near Manchester.

It is him, check his facebook page, you will see

[littleFred]

Ollie is a boxer, according to his profile.

Margo is poor at explaining her situation, but has sad that her housing association, named Magna, took her to court, which ordered her to pay them, but she didn't because the court has no authority because A61 etc.

It's a very British eviction. Very civilised, no battering ram, standing around chatting in the cold.

[aesmith]

Notice no comment from their illustrious useless leader, no doubt when the dust has settled it will be all Margo's fault for not correctly following the process and she'll be quietly removed from the group.

I'll second that! David already planted the "you're doing it wrong" seed a few posts ago.

Thanks for that.....I had informed Margo to pay under duress as she was liable for some of the rent and had sent Notices that were quite sketchy. They will have known by those Notices that she was an easy target. Vey difficult to communicate with her because of the language barrier.

Language barrier meaning she doesn't understand gibberish?

This sort of action can be detrimental to the movement as it was obvious she was going to get her home repossessed which is why I advised her to comply under duress with everthing taken into account. The process wasn't done correctly athough she did try. If people don't follow the advice of the group and keep us informed at what is happening then it makes things very difficult for us and can discredit the movement.

== don't try to use our so-called processes for anything that actually matters, because if you do then everyone can see that it's all nonsense.

[aesmith]

Margo is poor at explaining her situation, but has sad that her housing association, named Magna, took her to court, which ordered her to pay them

We discussed this earlier, and of course haven't seen the papers but I'm still of the opinion that the court action and order was for possession not for payment.

[TheCoz]

IF its an eviction by the county court there's not much they can actually do. Only high court can force entry.

She will claim a win until is escalated then its over.

[TheCoz]

Notice no comment from their illustrious useless leader, no doubt when the dust has settled it will be all Margo's fault for not correctly following the process and she'll be quietly removed from the group.

I'll second that! David already planted the "you're doing it wrong" seed a few posts ago.

Thanks for that.....I had informed Margo to pay under duress as she was liable for some of the rent and had sent Notices that were quite sketchy. They will have known by those Notices that she was an easy target. Vey difficult to communicate with her because of the language barrier.

Language barrier meaning she doesn't understand gibberish?

This sort of action can be detrimental to the movement as it was obvious she was going to get her home repossessed which is why I advised her to comply under duress with everthing taken into account. The process wasn't done correctly athough she did try. If people don't follow the advice of the group and keep us informed at what is happening then it makes things very difficult for us and can discredit the movement.

== don't try to use our so-called processes for anything that actually matters, because if you do then everyone can see that it's all nonsense.

You wrote the magic words slightly wrong, its not because the methods don't work. You should pay your bills to stop you losing the roof over your heard ~ David Robinson.

[NYGman]

This sort of action can be detrimental to the movement as it was obvious she was going to get her home repossessed which is why I advised her to comply under duress with everthing taken into account. The process wasn't done correctly athough she did try. If people don't follow the advice of the group and keep us informed at what is happening then it makes things very difficult for us and can discredit the movement.

Well he has one thing right, people using A61, and failing like this will absolutely discredit the movement, and since everyone will go down in flames, it is only a matter of time. I guess they can all pay everything under duress, but then what is the point of Lawful dissent if you aren't going to get out of your debts for free.

[littleFred]

... but I'm still of the opinion that the court action and order was for possession not for payment.

Yes, an eviction order following her refusal to pay a previous court order. Hence today's eviction.

IF its an eviction by the county court there's not much they can actually do. Only high court can force entry.

From the videos, the enforcement officers seem to have gained entry. Margo is the tenant, but her daughter and granddaughter are also living there.

[TheCoz]

She will be out today then, they are no longer interested in recovering the balance. Offering to pay won't stop the process.

[John Uskglass]

IF its an eviction by the county court there's not much they can actually do. Only high court can force entry.

No. Eviction in a rent possession case is carried out by County Court bailiffs. I've attended a fair few in a previous career in social housing. You turn up with a locksmith, and the bailiffs wait for them to force the door, go in to secure the property and then give you possession of it. Bailiffs will call out the police if there's a danger of breach of the peace.

[littleFred]

I guess they can all pay everything under duress, but then what is the point of Lawful dissent if you aren't going to get out of your debts for free.

The PLD have only one horse in the race, only one idea: article 61. That doesn't work. I predict a very short shelf life for the movement: when failures become obvious, people will leave.

David Robinson claims some successes; HMRC refunds etc. But those will be for reasons unconnected with Magna Carta. Anyone who uses only Article 61 as a reason to flout court orders, not pay tax, etc, will swiftly lose.

[longdog]

Margo is poor at explaining her situation, but has sad that her housing association, named Magna, took her to court, which ordered her to pay them

We discussed this earlier, and of course haven't seen the papers but I'm still of the opinion that the court action and order was for possession not for payment.

Isn't this the woman who was refusing to pay her rent to the HA leading to a possession order and her agreeing to pay 'under duress'? The problem being as it so often is with these morons that an agreement to pay, under duress or otherwise, isn't actually the same thing as paying.

[longdog]

I love the way so many idiots are saying the police can't do anything unless they are wearing their hats

Tell them you're in lawful rebellion... That should stop them.

If that doesn't work tell them they are committing high treason... That should stop them.

If that doesn't work demand to see their oaths... That should stop them.

If that doesn't work tell them they can't do anything unless they're wearing a hat... That should stop them.

If that doesn't work stream your eviction live on the interwebs... That should stop them.

If that doesn't work you were doing it all wrong.