Meet the Dragons
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Re: Meet the Dragons
This could be one reason why this bunch split from PAYG and his cronies at PLD. From one of the fora:
https://thefreepeople.createaforum.com/ ... ee3fd4#new
Notice that the link on the first (& only) post is to an Australian senate website page:
http://www.magnacarta.senate.gov.au/ind ... anslation/
A translation of the 1297 MC (the only one even vaguely in force), shorn of the Article 61 of 1215 so beloved of Mr Bait, PAYG & co.
As for the 'constitution' & objectives (https://takebackcontrol.vote/about/), I doubt their ability to raise enough for a deposit to even field one candidate at a parliamentary election. Of course, they could always cash in their Swissindo entitlement.
The rest of their apology for a manifesto is clear. This lot aren't about democracy or being a political party. They're a bunch of unreconstructed 'Little England' racists, reminiscent of the National Front in the 1970s. Everything else is just flannel. I suppose you could give the PLD activists just the tiniest bit of credit for (possibly) realising this and wanting nothing to do with them, in addition to their disavowal of A61. There again, maybe not.
https://thefreepeople.createaforum.com/ ... ee3fd4#new
Notice that the link on the first (& only) post is to an Australian senate website page:
http://www.magnacarta.senate.gov.au/ind ... anslation/
A translation of the 1297 MC (the only one even vaguely in force), shorn of the Article 61 of 1215 so beloved of Mr Bait, PAYG & co.
As for the 'constitution' & objectives (https://takebackcontrol.vote/about/), I doubt their ability to raise enough for a deposit to even field one candidate at a parliamentary election. Of course, they could always cash in their Swissindo entitlement.
The rest of their apology for a manifesto is clear. This lot aren't about democracy or being a political party. They're a bunch of unreconstructed 'Little England' racists, reminiscent of the National Front in the 1970s. Everything else is just flannel. I suppose you could give the PLD activists just the tiniest bit of credit for (possibly) realising this and wanting nothing to do with them, in addition to their disavowal of A61. There again, maybe not.
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Re: Meet the Dragons
Dragon Graham Moore, begging asking for donations
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Re: Meet the Dragons
Oh from Erith? That explains a lot of it. I used to go amateur boxing down there (watching a friend) in my teens, and most violence took place on the way to/from the train station.
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Re: Meet the Dragons
I do like this bit of the 'constitution'...
Although it does seem to conflict with...An allegiance to England no matter what a persons colour, religion,atheism or sexuality.
Now I've always thought that the point of free speech is that you had the right to say or NOT SAY anything of your choosing within sensible bounds. Now I'm not a patriot and have never and will never pledge allegiance to anything or anybody, the nearest I get is my joking (and usually drunken) references to Men of Kent being the pinnacle of human evolution and Kentish men being troglodyte scum. Will I be tried for treason if I refuse to use my free speech to pledge allegiance to England?No form of political correctness should subvert free speech.
JULIAN: I recommend we try Per verulium ad camphorum actus injuria linctus est.
SANDY: That's your actual Latin.
HORNE: What does it mean?
JULIAN: I dunno - I got it off a bottle of horse rub, but it sounds good, doesn't it?
SANDY: That's your actual Latin.
HORNE: What does it mean?
JULIAN: I dunno - I got it off a bottle of horse rub, but it sounds good, doesn't it?
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Re: Meet the Dragons
I can't help thinking he looks like a huge baby, mouth open in a wail, arms raised.
This is not a good look. It does not even look good on real babies.
This is not a good look. It does not even look good on real babies.
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Re: Meet the Dragons
I'm assuming that letissier14 deliberately chose to freeze the frame at an unflattering moment.Siegfried Shrink wrote:I can't help thinking he looks like a huge baby, mouth open in a wail, arms raised.
This is not a good look. It does not even look good on real babies.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Re: Meet the Dragons
Absolutely. He has passed those sensible bounds. IMHO. Let's be honest. His websites, T-shirts (FFS) & videos are all displaying a nasty kind of racism that should have been consigned to the waste bin of history. Even an FMOTL-style use of MC 1297 is twisted to reinforce his prejudices.longdog wrote: Now I've always thought that the point of free speech is that you had the right to say or NOT SAY anything of your choosing within sensible bounds.
Should we even be giving him the time of day?
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Re: Meet the Dragons
I would love to claim I was clever enough to catch such moments, but alas the screenshot was taken directly from one of their websitesBurnaby49 wrote:I'm assuming that letissier14 deliberately chose to freeze the frame at an unflattering moment.Siegfried Shrink wrote:I can't help thinking he looks like a huge baby, mouth open in a wail, arms raised.
This is not a good look. It does not even look good on real babies.
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Re: Meet the Dragons
In other words that's the best they could do to make him look good. A sad comment.letissier14 wrote:I would love to claim I was clever enough to catch such moments, but alas the screenshot was taken directly from one of their websitesBurnaby49 wrote:I'm assuming that letissier14 deliberately chose to freeze the frame at an unflattering moment.Siegfried Shrink wrote:I can't help thinking he looks like a huge baby, mouth open in a wail, arms raised.
This is not a good look. It does not even look good on real babies.
https://takebackcontrol.vote/
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Re: Meet the Dragons
About the Movement (Party) Constitution
Constitution of England, Take Back Control (Movement, Party)
Primary Objective – Take Back Control.
The Rule of Law, Common Law – No Loss, No Harm, No Injury.
Peacefully take back our Country (candidate – resides) England, Scotland, Wales, NI via the Ballot Box, Press the Reset Button.
Honour our Oath set out below.
Deploy non – politicians in constituencies that agree with our constitution.
Once ALL of our objectives and commitments are complete ensure that all FOUR Nations have full autonomy under their own Parliaments and a solemn bond of nationhood, freedom and liberty is created in the spirit of Peace, Brotherhood and in perpetuity, as per the Magna Carta 1215, the Declaration of Rights and the Bill of Rights 1688/9.
Secondary Objectives – Re–establish the foundation of the English Constitution.
Vote in Parliament – Authorise an expedient inquiry into perjury of oath by those previously elected and those not elected but have sworn oaths, purpose to prosecute Treason.
Vote in parliament – Outlaw treasonous organisations and any affiliated groups.
The Fabian Society
The Muslim Brotherhood
Chatham House
Common Purpose
Additional seditious and or pernicious groups
Begin the proceedings of Treason against the English Constitution, by those identified at SO1.
Third objective – implement what we were sworn by oath and elected to do.
Fully implement the Six Star Movement
Vote for a referendum on the Hong Kong Tax System (AKA the Addington Act 1803-1909 extracts of)
A referendum on the abolition of a Central Bank and implementation of the Currency and Notes Act 1914 (AKA the Bradbury Pound).
Deploy Direct Democracy to allow subjects to propose policies and to have those policies implemented.
Chairman – David Russell (Sargent at Arms, AKA party whip)
Party Secretary – Stephan Lang
The Leader – Graham Moore
Local campaigns, candidates are chosen locally and must have a reasonable knowledge of our constitutional rights so that they will never allow those rights to be infringed by any proposed statute. Final approval of candidates is via the Leader as nominator.
Elections will take place for Leader, Chairman and Secretary once the objectives are fully complete.
All three swear an oath intended to uphold our Constitution and implement taking back control for the People, Liberty, Freedom and Rights of the individual as God intended,
Amen
1st August 2017
England, Takes Back Control (Party) has applied for registration as a political party in Great Britain.
England, Take Back Control (Party) shall field candidates in constituencies for parliamentary elections in Great Britain.
England, Take Back Control (Party) will take applications via our website(s) and they are to be selected on knowledge of The Constitution of England and their acceptance of the England, Take Back Control (party) constitution. The nominations Officer, Party Leader, give the Final Authority.
Graham Moore, David Russell and Stephen Lang have responsibility for office procedures, term of office is fixed until objectives are complete, in the event of death of an official, the position will be filled by secret ballot via the website of any individual that fully supports England, Take Back Control (Party) constitution and is approved by surviving officials. Officials or Officers cannot resign as they have sworn an oath which cannot be resigned.
The three party Offices, Chairman, Leader and Secretary will take the decisions. From time to time we may ask supporters for opinions on private and no private polls via the internet. These may be private, in which case a password shall be given to access the web page and poll.
There is no official membership but donations and suggestions are accepted from supporters.
The constitution can only be changed by agreement of the three Party Officials and we may ask supporters advice, we may not.
England, Take Back Control (Party) has been formed to take back control for the people; once the three objectives have been attained the party will be dissolved within 5 years of completion. If any objective fails at any time in the future, we reserve the right to resurrect the Party and Constitution to rectify the failure.
The Judges of attainment will be the elected MPs, Chairman, Leader, Secretary (and or ) candidates of England, Take Back Control (Party) and will be polled via the internet, phone, or any other medium of our choosing,
England, Tack Back Control (Party) Financial year End is 31/12 England, Take Back Control (Party) Press the Reset Button.
Six Star Movement:
Value is about Location, Location, Location and England will be the best Location for family life in the world with these 6 steps. #SixStarMovement
1. It would be better for England if our politicians weren’t career politicians with no business skills, no job creation skills, no life experience. It would be better if those who stand for election had work and life experience of those you seek to represent. The primary goal of any politicians should be the interests of the People, not a party, not self interest. We should adopt a system where politicians get paid not by salary but on results and the quality of life of the people improving. If they fail us, we don’t pay them the bonuses. Lets see how many would step up to the plate, things would soon change for the better.
All MPs and Lords should pass a test on UK constitutional law. If they fail they cannot be selected.
2. England must NEVER be split into regions, ever.
3. Proportional representation, preferably MMP (Mixed Member Proportional).
• It is the fairest system in the world, you win by votes not by area.
4. The monetary system that exists today is a fraud on the people, money creation must be created by the government and the people not private banks. The fractional reserve system (current banking system) is a major fraud on the working people of this Country.
• Value and Wealth are distinct from each other.
Value is our sweat, blood and tears. It is a fair society for all,infrastructure, industry, education, health system (NHS), care for the elderly, care for disabled, care for veterans.
Wealth is creating an environment for jobs, environmental sustainability, opportunity
Policing by consent means politics stays out of policingBradbury pound. I have called it Public Sector Pound (PSP). It has nothing to do with the outside world, it is English money for those who live and work in England. The Currency and Notes Act 1914.
5. A tax system that works and is proven to work that is proportional and progressive to a max of 17% or optional flat rate. Simplified English tax system, whereas our current system is 11500 pages and rising. This system is NOT taken at source but donated.
6. The bill of rights 1688/9 must be honoured as well as the other 14 constitutional treaties and Common Law for the UK and a completely independent English Parliament. We need the constitutional laws maintained and respected.
The protection of children; abuse of children must be the “ultimate crime”.
An allegiance to England no matter what a persons colour, religion,atheism or sexuality.
Politics cannot be part of any religion and religion can play no part in politics.
Justice cannot be part of any religion and must be struck out.
War and violence must not be encouraged by “any” religion.
No religion may subvert or attempt to subvert human rights, women’s rights, children’s rights and animal rights.
No form of political correctness should subvert free speech.
No form of political or religious subversion may take place in educational establishments (pre, infants, primary, secondary, college, training or University).
Constitution of England, Take Back Control (Movement, Party)
Primary Objective – Take Back Control.
The Rule of Law, Common Law – No Loss, No Harm, No Injury.
Peacefully take back our Country (candidate – resides) England, Scotland, Wales, NI via the Ballot Box, Press the Reset Button.
Honour our Oath set out below.
Deploy non – politicians in constituencies that agree with our constitution.
Once ALL of our objectives and commitments are complete ensure that all FOUR Nations have full autonomy under their own Parliaments and a solemn bond of nationhood, freedom and liberty is created in the spirit of Peace, Brotherhood and in perpetuity, as per the Magna Carta 1215, the Declaration of Rights and the Bill of Rights 1688/9.
Secondary Objectives – Re–establish the foundation of the English Constitution.
Vote in Parliament – Authorise an expedient inquiry into perjury of oath by those previously elected and those not elected but have sworn oaths, purpose to prosecute Treason.
Vote in parliament – Outlaw treasonous organisations and any affiliated groups.
The Fabian Society
The Muslim Brotherhood
Chatham House
Common Purpose
Additional seditious and or pernicious groups
Begin the proceedings of Treason against the English Constitution, by those identified at SO1.
Third objective – implement what we were sworn by oath and elected to do.
Fully implement the Six Star Movement
Vote for a referendum on the Hong Kong Tax System (AKA the Addington Act 1803-1909 extracts of)
A referendum on the abolition of a Central Bank and implementation of the Currency and Notes Act 1914 (AKA the Bradbury Pound).
Deploy Direct Democracy to allow subjects to propose policies and to have those policies implemented.
Chairman – David Russell (Sargent at Arms, AKA party whip)
Party Secretary – Stephan Lang
The Leader – Graham Moore
Local campaigns, candidates are chosen locally and must have a reasonable knowledge of our constitutional rights so that they will never allow those rights to be infringed by any proposed statute. Final approval of candidates is via the Leader as nominator.
Elections will take place for Leader, Chairman and Secretary once the objectives are fully complete.
All three swear an oath intended to uphold our Constitution and implement taking back control for the People, Liberty, Freedom and Rights of the individual as God intended,
Amen
1st August 2017
England, Takes Back Control (Party) has applied for registration as a political party in Great Britain.
England, Take Back Control (Party) shall field candidates in constituencies for parliamentary elections in Great Britain.
England, Take Back Control (Party) will take applications via our website(s) and they are to be selected on knowledge of The Constitution of England and their acceptance of the England, Take Back Control (party) constitution. The nominations Officer, Party Leader, give the Final Authority.
Graham Moore, David Russell and Stephen Lang have responsibility for office procedures, term of office is fixed until objectives are complete, in the event of death of an official, the position will be filled by secret ballot via the website of any individual that fully supports England, Take Back Control (Party) constitution and is approved by surviving officials. Officials or Officers cannot resign as they have sworn an oath which cannot be resigned.
The three party Offices, Chairman, Leader and Secretary will take the decisions. From time to time we may ask supporters for opinions on private and no private polls via the internet. These may be private, in which case a password shall be given to access the web page and poll.
There is no official membership but donations and suggestions are accepted from supporters.
The constitution can only be changed by agreement of the three Party Officials and we may ask supporters advice, we may not.
England, Take Back Control (Party) has been formed to take back control for the people; once the three objectives have been attained the party will be dissolved within 5 years of completion. If any objective fails at any time in the future, we reserve the right to resurrect the Party and Constitution to rectify the failure.
The Judges of attainment will be the elected MPs, Chairman, Leader, Secretary (and or ) candidates of England, Take Back Control (Party) and will be polled via the internet, phone, or any other medium of our choosing,
England, Tack Back Control (Party) Financial year End is 31/12 England, Take Back Control (Party) Press the Reset Button.
Six Star Movement:
Value is about Location, Location, Location and England will be the best Location for family life in the world with these 6 steps. #SixStarMovement
1. It would be better for England if our politicians weren’t career politicians with no business skills, no job creation skills, no life experience. It would be better if those who stand for election had work and life experience of those you seek to represent. The primary goal of any politicians should be the interests of the People, not a party, not self interest. We should adopt a system where politicians get paid not by salary but on results and the quality of life of the people improving. If they fail us, we don’t pay them the bonuses. Lets see how many would step up to the plate, things would soon change for the better.
All MPs and Lords should pass a test on UK constitutional law. If they fail they cannot be selected.
2. England must NEVER be split into regions, ever.
3. Proportional representation, preferably MMP (Mixed Member Proportional).
• It is the fairest system in the world, you win by votes not by area.
4. The monetary system that exists today is a fraud on the people, money creation must be created by the government and the people not private banks. The fractional reserve system (current banking system) is a major fraud on the working people of this Country.
• Value and Wealth are distinct from each other.
Value is our sweat, blood and tears. It is a fair society for all,infrastructure, industry, education, health system (NHS), care for the elderly, care for disabled, care for veterans.
Wealth is creating an environment for jobs, environmental sustainability, opportunity
Policing by consent means politics stays out of policingBradbury pound. I have called it Public Sector Pound (PSP). It has nothing to do with the outside world, it is English money for those who live and work in England. The Currency and Notes Act 1914.
5. A tax system that works and is proven to work that is proportional and progressive to a max of 17% or optional flat rate. Simplified English tax system, whereas our current system is 11500 pages and rising. This system is NOT taken at source but donated.
6. The bill of rights 1688/9 must be honoured as well as the other 14 constitutional treaties and Common Law for the UK and a completely independent English Parliament. We need the constitutional laws maintained and respected.
The protection of children; abuse of children must be the “ultimate crime”.
An allegiance to England no matter what a persons colour, religion,atheism or sexuality.
Politics cannot be part of any religion and religion can play no part in politics.
Justice cannot be part of any religion and must be struck out.
War and violence must not be encouraged by “any” religion.
No religion may subvert or attempt to subvert human rights, women’s rights, children’s rights and animal rights.
No form of political correctness should subvert free speech.
No form of political or religious subversion may take place in educational establishments (pre, infants, primary, secondary, college, training or University).
I don't take sides, I read all the facts and then come to my own conclusions
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Re: Meet the Dragons
Without trying to break the "no politics" rule, I'll say that they have no chance at the ballot box, because reasons.
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Re: Meet the Dragons
I don't think this bunch of clowns even qualifies as politics. Fantasy yes but politics? No.Firthy2002 wrote:Without trying to break the "no politics" rule, I'll say that they have no chance at the ballot box, because reasons.
JULIAN: I recommend we try Per verulium ad camphorum actus injuria linctus est.
SANDY: That's your actual Latin.
HORNE: What does it mean?
JULIAN: I dunno - I got it off a bottle of horse rub, but it sounds good, doesn't it?
SANDY: That's your actual Latin.
HORNE: What does it mean?
JULIAN: I dunno - I got it off a bottle of horse rub, but it sounds good, doesn't it?
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Re: Meet the Dragons
Siegfried Shrink wrote:I can't help thinking he looks like a huge baby, mouth open in a wail, arms raised.
This is not a good look. It does not even look good on real babies.
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Re: Meet the Dragons
And the title of the person in charge is simply "The Leader". Hmmmm.
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Re: Meet the Dragons
I think the simplest answer to why they won't succeed is reality. It has been biting them in the ass all their lives, and it will continue to do so. Their manifest or whatever you want to call that drivel is the biggest collection of ignorance and total of electrons I have seen in quite a while. But mostly they are just idiots. They are not even a political faction, they are fantasy LARPERS with no grounding in reality at all.longdog wrote:I don't think this bunch of clowns even qualifies as politics. Fantasy yes but politics? No.Firthy2002 wrote:Without trying to break the "no politics" rule, I'll say that they have no chance at the ballot box, because reasons.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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Re: Meet the Dragons
Even by neo-fascist standards, the idea that the most treasonous group at large today is the Fabian Society is particularly ludicrous.
For anyone unfamiliar with them, Wikipedia says -
I can only surmise that a member of the Fabian Society once got off with The Leader's girlfriend (I think I'm on pretty safe ground making assumptions about his sexuality...).
For anyone unfamiliar with them, Wikipedia says -
In other words, they are on the right of the Labour Party, and would generally be seen as Blairites.The Fabian Society is a British socialist organisation whose purpose is to advance the principles of democratic socialism via gradualist and reformist effort in democracies, rather than by revolutionary overthrow.
I can only surmise that a member of the Fabian Society once got off with The Leader's girlfriend (I think I'm on pretty safe ground making assumptions about his sexuality...).
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Re: Meet the Dragons
The image of a Fabian and one of the Fat Slags from Viz is something I just can't get my head around. Sorry.
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Re: Meet the Dragons
Oh dear, Graham Moore is in court relying on advice from the departed John Harris. Graham seems to think that the Queen bumped him off
https://www.facebook.com/graham.moore.1 ... 443799691/
https://www.facebook.com/graham.moore.1 ... 443799691/
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