Disinformation spreaders

ceylon2 · Post by **ceylon2** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:53 am

aesmith wrote:
ceylon2 wrote:By the way, the a4v has been removed. I contacted them to see why they are still advertising it. The guy stated he didn't know it was still up. They are a subsiduary of simplefs dit co dit uk
Still there at https://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/a4v/

Spoken to them and they say it's a cached site

Post by **wserra** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:51 pm

ceylon2 wrote:
aesmith wrote:
ceylon2 wrote:By the way, the a4v has been removed. I contacted them to see why they are still advertising it. The guy stated he didn't know it was still up. They are a subsiduary of simplefs dit co dit uk
Still there at https://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/a4v/
Spoken to them and they say it's a cached site

No, it's a page on the GOODF site. Are you saying they can't delete a page on their site? What is it, inscribed on virtual clay tablets?

ETA: I'd be careful of Forumotion. Yes, they will host your BBS free. They will also add links to your board based on their own algorithms, links of which you may not completely approve. For example, they've added a link to your "Visitor Message" to a site that includes a forum for Dinar-idjits; this guy wants "locations where we can exchange after the RV".

Go RV!

Please note that the references to Shrout and birth certificate mumbo-jumbo are not such links, but rather a page on GOODF's own site.

arayder · Post by **arayder** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:18 pm

Here's the anti-Ceylon book being hawked: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Laws-Mark-Ceyl ... +of+ceylon

The Laws of Mark Ceylon & Jon Witterick: (A road to misery) Paperback – 2 Sep 2017
by John Green (Author)

Paperback
£14.73

Mark Ceylon and Jon Witterick have become common figures in online social groups including youtube and facebook, while running their own online forum teaching and interpreting the law to vulnerable individuals who have found themselves in financial difficulty, speak out against them such as telling them their methods do not work will get you banned, they do not tolerate members speaking out because it would jeopardise their sole purpose of spreading disinformation. Their lectures on law are dangerous and have no place in our society. This book is designed to help you the reader understand the law and how it works as compared to their version. The contents of the book does not attack them personally, it does however attack their knowledge of the law which is being used by many of their followers today and ending in misery and embarrassment which included myself. I decided to study the law and everything became clear. I will now share my learned subject with you. http://goodf2.forumotion.com

I too am puzzled as to why the site bashes Ceylon and then turns around and gives a nod to Winston Shrout who has been pitching woo since we were all in short pants and is presently awaiting sentencing for tax crimes.

aesmith · Post by **aesmith** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:58 pm

arayder wrote:I too am puzzled as to why the site bashes Ceylon and then turns around and gives a nod to Winston Shrout who has been pitching woo since we were all in short pants and is presently awaiting sentencing for tax crimes.

Confusion still reigning. The site punting A4V/Shrout is the original http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org. Not goodf2.forumotion.com which is ceylon2's site.

Philistine · Post by **Philistine** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:01 pm

Also, the OP can't seem to capitalize the pronoun "I" which seems strange for a third year law student.
Maybe I'm wrong about that...

Siegfried Shrink · Post by **Siegfried Shrink** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:33 pm

I notice that a moderator is listed as 'lotus'. Not 'lou lotus', also known as Neelu Berry.

I am simply puzzled why you use a username and website name that are both well tainted with fotlerism. Why goodf2? The first one was bad enough. Why ceylon2.

It all seems a bit mad, like setting out dinner in a cesspool..

Post by **wserra** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:48 pm

I just activated a new member "goodf2". Perhaps some answers are forthcoming.

Post by **wserra** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:00 pm

aesmith wrote:The site punting A4V/Shrout is the original http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org. Not goodf2.forumotion.com which is ceylon2's site.

Right. And goodf2.forumotion.com punts getoutofdebtfree.org.

longdog · Post by **longdog** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:05 pm

Quite frankly if the 'blurb' for the book over on Amazon...

Mark Ceylon and Jon Witterick have become common figures in online social groups including youtube and facebook, while running their own online forum teaching and interpreting the law to vulnerable individuals who have found themselves in financial difficulty, speak out against them such as telling them their methods do not work will get you banned, they do not tolerate members speaking out because it would jeopardise their sole purpose of spreading disinformation. Their lectures on law are dangerous and have no place in our society. This book is designed to help you the reader understand the law and how it works as compared to their version. The contents of the book does not attack them personally, it does however attack their knowledge of the law which is being used by many of their followers today and ending in misery and embarrassment which included myself. I decided to study the law and everything became clear. I will now share my learned subject with you. http://goodf2.forumotion.com

...and the back cover....

...are anything to go by then I have very serious doubts about the legal and lawful learnin' of the writer and even more serious doubts about their ability to write a book worth spending £15 on.

The contents of the book does not attack them personally, it they do es however attack their knowledge of the law which is being used by many of their followers today and ending in misery and embarrassment which included myself.

Seriously... Get an editor BEFORE publication because that sentence alone is a complete mess and that's from the spiel attempting to sell the thing.

longdog · Post by **longdog** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:24 pm

Actually I've just had a look at the 'Look Inside' over on Amazon and it has lived right down to my expectations. It's badly written, rambling, devoid of proper formatting and I have a nasty feeling that the majority of the book's 314 pages are made up of cut-n-pastes from the internet. I have a horrible suspicion, judging by the huge jump in page numbers between chapters 6 & 7, that the whole of the Meads vs Meads is reproduced covering almost 300 hundred pages on its own.

In short it appears to be cobbled together from freely available C-n-Ps from the web stuck together with at best a couple of dozen pages of original waffle... In short... It's a scam.

Philistine · Post by **Philistine** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:28 pm

wserra wrote:
aesmith wrote:The site punting A4V/Shrout is the original . Not goodf2.forumotion.com which is ceylon2's site.
Right. And goodf2.forumotion.com punts getoutofdebtfree.org.

Yep. The second link in the "Useful Contacts" goes to good old getoutofdebtfree.
The OP is either being purposely misleading, or is woefully misguided.

Yep. The second link in the "Useful Contacts" goes to good old getoutofdebtfree.
The OP is either being purposely misleading, or is woefully misguided.

http://goodf2.forumotion.com/t19-get-ou ... vice-goodf

Post by **The Observer** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:53 pm

wserra wrote:I just activated a new member "goodf2". Perhaps some answers are forthcoming.

Yet Dave deactivated HAL 9000.

King Lud · Post by **King Lud** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:15 pm

I have no idea who is who and who owns what web site. I can't decide if it's deliberate obfuscation or just someone coming up with a series of ill thought out names.

longdog · Post by **longdog** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:21 pm

So what do we have in summary?

A forum with no members.

A forum with no content.

Links to some very dodgy websites.

Adverts for a book the contents of which appears to be largely lifted from the internet.

And we should help him out because?

Post by **wserra** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:25 pm

The Observer wrote:Yet Dave deactivated HAL 9000.

Of course. He wouldn't open the pod bay doors.

Obs, you and I must have grown up near each other.

arayder · Post by **arayder** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:29 pm

Way back in January 2017 ceylon2 posted:

Re: Mark "Ceylon" Haining, Goofy GOODFer
by ceylon2 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:54 pm

Ceylon aka Mark Haining needs to be locked up for the crap he shares about debts. People will end up in a lot worse situation.

Yes i know my user is ceylon2 so i hope he notices

In his profile he says he's a bricklayer. But the author of the book is a John Green who is linked to a couple of best sellers.

I smell a rat.

Hercule Parrot · Post by **Hercule Parrot** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:30 pm

ceylon2 wrote: i would like to help others understand that these people are very dangerous and their information will lead to misery. If there is anyone here that could help with my forum i would appreciate it. http://goodf2.forumotion.com

I'm going to assume good faith here. If you want to raise awareness about scum like Haining and Witterick, it would be more effective to join an existing group - probably one of the more frequently visited Facebook groups (eg Freeman Fails) where you can contribute to discussions informally.

Your written English isn't good enough for publishing books (neither is mine....), and starting new forums will just dilute and confuse the message.

Post by **The Observer** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:35 pm

wserra wrote:
The Observer wrote:Yet Dave deactivated HAL 9000.
Of course. He wouldn't open the pod bay doors.

Obs, you and I must have grown up near each other.

I suspect it was in the same womb, then we were tragically separated at birth, you to become a liberal , me a conservative - kept apart some 4000 miles apart to avoid the unearthly connection and rupturing of the time line if we spend more than 8 hours together.

Or it could just be that we just watched too many episodes of Monty Python.

Post by **wserra** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:46 pm

But this would be the Python version of "2001".

Open pod bay doors, HAL.
None shall pass.

ceylon2 · Post by **ceylon2** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:35 pm

Philistine wrote:Also, the OP can't seem to capitalize the pronoun "I" which seems strange for a third year law student.
Maybe I'm wrong about that...

A typical fmotl attack on punctuation, what for? And yes it does seem a bit strange doesnt it for a law student. what exactly are you trying to say? oh look i forgot the ' and again the i

Quatloos!

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