DEbunking OPCA, stuff you may not have noticed.

[Siegfried Shrink]

I hope Burnaby will forgive me for reposting this link here, possibly some UK readers do not check the Canadian sov-cit thread and this is something of a gem that is applicable to our native nonsense as well as that of North America, where most of it seems to have come from.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... d_Ceremony

It only seems fair to include a reference to Meads V Meads

https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2 ... qb571.html

Others may wish to or be willing to add links to well reasoned de-bunking sites that they know of.
The citations above set the bar pretty high.

[mufc1959]

I think it's worth leaving this here, the Financial Ombudsman's annihilation of WeRe Bank.

http://www.ombudsman-decisions.org.uk/v ... eID=104875

[Siegfried Shrink]

I cannot believe anyone with the least aquaintance with the practice of fellatio would not be brought up short by the mention of SPIT or SWALLOW, and realise the witty PoE may have been a bit too witty there.

[AndyK]

I cannot believe anyone with the least aquaintance with the practice of fellatio would not be brought up short by the mention of SPIT or SWALLOW, and realise the witty PoE may have been a bit too witty there.

Those with non-gutter minds immediately associate those terms with wine tasting.

[Siegfried Shrink]

I must admit I had not thought of that.

[Mr Stormcrow]

Hello, Quatloos! I have been a lurker for a few months reading the forums. I had previously been watching the fools on youtube filming themselves while getting stopped while travelling. I hadn't realised how deep the rabbit hole went.

I had to post on this as it made me do some LOLing..

From Siegfrieds link above

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... d_Ceremony

It seems if you read the American constitution in the "correct" way.

The “WebMavin” website provides an explanation of the UPU/postage stamp motif.
It claims the postmaster general is superior to all other government authorities
because that office preceded the US, and due to a passage in an 1825 act 82 to
regulate the post office:
That there be established, the seat of the government of the United
States, a general post office, under the direction of a postmaster
general.
Webmavin claims “the seat of government of the United States” is “under the
direction of a postmaster general”, concludes the US Postal Service may even
function as a backup or replacement government, but the actual legislation reads:
That there be established, at the seat of the government of the United
States, a general post-office under the direction of the Postmaster
General.

And if you disguise yourself as a postal item, the courts are unable to do anything. They are completely powerless against the Post Office.

Postage stamps on court documents is one thing, but there are reported incidents of
even more unusual pseudolegal applications of postage stamps. Christopher Henry
Gerlitz, an OPCA tax evader, attached postage stamps to his arm, and “refused to
remove them on the basis the stamps belonged to the universal postal service.”
The source or sources for Gerlitz’s OPCA beliefs are unknown. Perhaps the postage
stamps made Gerlitz a piece of mail, and subject only to the UPU.

Happy New Year to you all!

[longdog]

Miller's nine and a half hour YouTube video of his September 2012 QUANTUM GRAMMAR SEMINAR[6] includes many interesting assertions, such as, at 4:45:00 that C4 is a plastic explosive, and that this means it explodes everything made of plastic; and at 4:55:00 that all the bombs dropped on Pearl Harbor had one-dollar postage stamps on them, so that the Postmaster General of Honolulu could legally deliver them.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/David_Wynn_Miller

[exiledscouser]

Welcome Stormcrow!

Christopher Henry Gerlitz didn’t pay full price for his stamps therefore rendering himself a “second-class” citizen. He was “pushing the envelope” after all. And with that “recorded delivery” I’ll be reaching for my coat.

[grixit]

If they're not careful, the court officers will use special handling with them.

[Comrade Sharik]

all the bombs dropped on Pearl Harbor had one-dollar postage stamps on them, so that the Postmaster General of Honolulu could legally deliver them.

And that, children, is where we get the phrase 'parcel bomb' from...

(I've not even taken me coat off)

[Hercule Parrot]

Hello, Quatloos! I have been a lurker for a few months reading the forums. I had previously been watching the fools on youtube filming themselves while getting stopped while travelling. I hadn't realised how deep the rabbit hole went.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... d_Ceremony

Welcome Stormcrow! Could you repost the full link for above, please?

[Siegfried Shrink]

https://www.researchgate.netpublication321936848_Organized_Pseudolegal_Commercial_Arguments_OPCA_as_Magic_and_Ceremony

It is in my first post and is worth a read.

[NYGman]

https://www.researchgate.netpublication321936848_Organized_Pseudolegal_Commercial_Arguments_OPCA_as_Magic_and_Ceremony

It is in my first post and is worth a read.

Still broken

[Siegfried Shrink]

Still works for me in the original post.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... d_Ceremony

[NYGman]

The above works, the one prior is missing the several "/" in the link

[Comrade Sharik]

I hope Burnaby will forgive me for reposting this link here, possibly some UK readers do not check the Canadian sov-cit thread and this is something of a gem that is applicable to our native nonsense

Many thanks. That is a fascinating article, and confirms my own thoughts about the parallels between FMOTL's and occultists.

[notorial dissent]

There's a difference, other than the size of the groups???? They are both all about majik wurdz and frazes, and mystical signs and seals, and rituals, and if you don't do them or say them exactly right then it doesn't work.

[exiledscouser]

There's a difference, other than the size of the groups???? They are both all about majik wurdz and frazes, and mystical signs and seals, and rituals, and if you don't do them or say them exactly right then it doesn't work.

Heh, they don't work even if you do say them right .

[Comrade Sharik]

There's a difference, other than the size of the groups????

In my experience occultists don't tend to have an obsession with the perceived iniquities of the legal system. I even know one prominent Wiccan who is a magistrate.

[notorial dissent]

There's a difference, other than the size of the groups???? They are both all about majik wurdz and frazes, and mystical signs and seals, and rituals, and if you don't do them or say them exactly right then it doesn't work.

Heh, they don't work even if you do say them right .

Ah, but you see, they obviously DON'T say them right since it never works.