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And a policemen can't arrest you unless he's wearing his helmet.
Brave, brave Sir Ken was making a film about Chrisy Morris & Wrecka called 'Meet the Resistance' highlighting their excellent bailiff bashing work. In true Ken style it had a Coming Soon trailer featuring some crap graphics and a Willie Thorne lookie-likie bailiff carrying out an '80s TV set. Sadly for Ken tho, his pipe dreams of becoming the next Oliver Stone were dashed when the cottage was sold to man-of-the-people Paul Mc Cartney lookie-likie on 4th June. Ken will now have to re-title his documentary "Meet the Fucktards" if, that is, it ever gets finished. Ken's had his lifetime film-making reputation hanging on this and now 'Paul McC' has ruined everything.aesmith wrote:What's his stake in this matter anyway, is it just publicity for him?
It's still viewable on Facebook:He Who Knows wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:26 am Brave, brave Sir Ken was making a film about Chrisy Morris & Wrecka called 'Meet the Resistance' highlighting their excellent bailiff bashing work. In true Ken style it had a Coming Soon trailer featuring some crap graphics and a Willie Thorne lookie-likie bailiff carrying out an '80s TV set.
That was my thought too. Keeping in mind that this is a listed historical building.daltontrumbno wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:42 am The way things are going I can see Rekha going down the if I can't have it no one can route and torching the place.
And dont forget the warrant, written in unicorn blood
Penny Ross is another. She of Fringed Ltd fame who bought the cottage for £2 along with Wrecka's parents.Wayne Williams: We need a couple people to come and sun bath in the garden to maintain occupancy of both parts of the land. If any one can get down here asap we will appreciate you forever, no one will be arrested as it's only a civil trespass in their eyes...FTR we r not trespassing.
Well, that's a pretty clear-cut admission of squatting.Wayne Williams: We need a couple people to come and sun bath in the garden to maintain occupancy of both parts of the land.
It might only be a civil trespass if they sit in the garden and do nothing else but if they obstruct the new owner or the builders in the course of their lawful activities it becomes aggravated trespass which most certainly is a criminal offence. The person inside is trespassing within a dwelling which is also a criminal offence.He Who Knows wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:08 pm Despite their leader being carted off to Buxton nick, there are still 3 straggler squatters in the garden from last night's damp squib BBQ of 5 people. Wayne Williams is one:
(taken from his FB page)<snip>...no one will be arrested as it's only a civil trespass in their eyes...FTR we r not trespassing.
Cat woke me up at 3am so spent a lot of the night reading on the subject.longdog wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:42 pm It might only be a civil trespass if they sit in the garden and do nothing else but if they obstruct the new owner or the builders in the course of their lawful activities it becomes aggravated trespass which most certainly is a criminal offence. The person inside is trespassing within a dwelling which is also a criminal offence.
Even if their trespass were a civil matter the owner of the property still has the right to use reasonable force to remove them and the right to summon the police to assist them if needed. Hopefully the local wallopers are getting sufficiently pissed off with the whole thing they'll be more than willing to pop by and arrest the lot of them for breach of the peace or whatever else they can think up.
3) If they are using any of the utilities, that qualifies as theft.(a)that any of those persons has caused damage to the land or to property on the land or used threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour towards the occupier, a member of his family or an employee or agent of his
I would draw m'learned friend's attention to S.68...1) You are right about the garden bit. The squatter law is very specific about "residential buildings". If they stay in the garden, the owner must apply for a Interim Possession Order.
2) The police can only assist prior to an IPO if the squatters are offensive or threatening as it then becomes aggravated trespass.
Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 S.61.1
Note that behaviour which obstructs or disrupts is specifically mentioned. Clearly their intent is to both obstruct and disrupt the lawful activities of the owner and his builder. That's sufficient cause to arrest and charge.68 Offence of aggravated trespass.
(1) A person commits the offence of aggravated trespass if he trespasses on land in the open air and, in relation to any lawful activity which persons are engaging in or are about to engage in on that or adjoining land in the open air, does there anything which is intended by him to have the effect—
(a) of intimidating those persons or any of them so as to deter them or any of them from engaging in that activity,
(b) of obstructing that activity, or
(c) of disrupting that activity.
The reference in subsection (1) above to trespassing includes, in Scotland, the exercise of access rights (within the meaning of the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 (asp 2)) up to the point when they cease to be exercisable by virtue of the commission of the offence under that subsection.
(2) Activity on any occasion on the part of a person or persons on land is “lawful” for the purposes of this section if he or they may engage in the activity on the land on that occasion without committing an offence or trespassing on the land.
(3 )A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months or a fine not exceeding level 4 on the standard scale, or both.
(4) a constable in uniform who reasonably suspects that a person is committing an offence under this section may arrest him without a warrant.
(5)In this section “land” does not include—
(a)the highways and roads excluded from the application of section 61 by paragraph (b) of the definition of “land” in subsection (9) of that section; or
(b)a road within the meaning of the M1Roads (Northern Ireland) Order 1993.
obstruct and disrupt the lawful activities of the owner and his builder. That's sufficient cause to arrest and charge.
It would seem to me that "serving" the carpenter who came to board up the front door and intimidating him into leaving, would qualify under this part of the statute.longdog wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:32 pm 68 Offence of aggravated trespass.
(1) A person commits the offence of aggravated trespass if he trespasses on land in the open air and, in relation to any lawful activity which persons are engaging in or are about to engage in on that or adjoining land in the open air, does there anything which is intended by him to have the effect—
(a) of intimidating those persons or any of them so as to deter them or any of them from engaging in that activity,
(b) of obstructing that activity, or
(c) of disrupting that activity.
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Ken Thompson Rehka not released as yet
If that's true she ought to be hoping they release her before the Friday night rush or she's likely going to be there until the courts open up on Monday.