OPPT (One Person's Public Trial) - Tucci-Jarraf

[notorial dissent]

I don't think the Tuccis-Giraffe has done anything to endear herself to the judge, and she obviously didn't impress Trial services with her demeanor and behavior. Somehow I can't see the judge being all warm and fuzzy towards her. I have a feeling she's going to be doing and being as guest of the Fed for a fair bit of time. It just keeps coming back to sentencing is going to be a not happy experience for her or Randy. Randy's stupid and clueless, on top of being really really annoying, and it isn't going to change.

[wserra]

On the subject. How likely is supervised release.

A near certainty. The Guidelines (yes, they're guidelines) require it with a sentence of a year or more.

[wserra]

On the subject. How likely is supervised release.

I hope her whole "I'm only letting you try my case because I want to be nice, but be sure its only because I do consent that I'm here" routine might have foreclosed :snicker: that possibility.

I think you may not understand "supervised release". It isn't probation. You could call it "parole", except sentences don't get shortened in the federal system.

[Jeffrey]

See if you can get me unblocked from IUV. It's not fair for you to get all the fun.

[Gregg]

On the subject. How likely is supervised release.

I hope her whole "I'm only letting you try my case because I want to be nice, but be sure its only because I do consent that I'm here" routine might have foreclosed that possibility.

I think you may not understand "supervised release". It isn't probation. You could call it "parole", except sentences don't get shortened in the federal system.

I thought he was suggesting she might not get any more jail time and just get probation.

[Resume]

See if you can get me unblocked from IUV. It's not fair for you to get all the fun.

Yeah, I'm blocked there too. Just as well because the delusional gibberish in response to wserra's posts indicate there's no getting through to these unsinkable rubber ducks.

[grixit]

See if you can get me unblocked from IUV. It's not fair for you to get all the fun.

Yeah, I'm blocked there too. Just as well because the delusional gibberish in response to wserra's posts indicate there's no getting through to these unsinkable rubber ducks.

[wserra]

I've been around here a long time (I was member 14. But I am not a number. I am a free man!). There aren't that many of us left. Those of us who are still here have the long view of how the board operates.

We have never banned anyone for any reason other than intentional disruption. The total is probably under a dozen in over fifteen years. Moreover, we give multiple warnings before it happens. It's the people who call us "statists", "government agents", "disinformation specialists" and so forth that do the banning.

Just another reason the standard Q kit includes a sturdy irony meter.

[Resume]

Bryan says :
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July 6, 2018 at 4:36 pm
Alien6 : Let’s not forget that Trump issued EO 13818.
I do not think HATJ remaining imprisoned is a done deal.
HATJ claimed in her 1-22-18 Praecipe the TDDA “OP”
was done to help POTUS.
I do not think she would lie about that.
So, I do not know what to expect on 7-17-18.

https://i-uv.com/universalcleanup-for-f ... port-hatj/
"I do not think she would like about that."

These folks have an intellectual/emotional age of about 12. They are very silly people.

[Gregg]

Wes, when you got dragged into a discussion of why the wire transfer cannot be reversed, you might not have been aware of a crucial distinction, the transactions weren't wire transfers, they were ACH transactions.

I have attempted to post a reply, but I am among the long banned there also, and my posts never see the light of day. I'll post it here, so maybe someone will see it, maybe William T can post it there.

Speaking as someone who once worked for a Federal Reserve Bank, and knows the banking system a bit, I have just one point about that entire post.
It's wrong.
The transactions involved were not wire transfers, the were ACH transfers which are a very different thing, and the Federal Reserve Bank did not send any money to Randall Beane, it rejected the attempted transfers when they were presented, because the accounts they were attempting to draw from didn't exist.
The money that was credited to Randall Beane's accounts at USAA for $29 million (you got the amount wrong, too) were credited by USAA in anticipation of a successful debit from the account he entered into their system, which did not at the time verify transactions at the actual time of attempt, but not until the next batch of accumulated transactions were submitted to the ACH system the next day. Randall Beane did the digital equivalent of writing a bad check at a grocery, where the grocery doesn't know the check is bad until their bank returns it to them. You still got to take the groceries home because they trusted you. Randall just did it on a much larger scale, online.
I have constantly wondered how come people cannot seem to grasp that the place you enter your account and routing number online to make payments is not the place where the payment is made from, your bank, and the merchant, insofar as they are letting the transaction process further are doing so on the trust that you aren't trying to defraud them. Just like the grocer who takes your check and lets you take dinner home, they sometimes let you get away with one, as happened here.
The loss from this case was USAA, and was limited to the amount that they allowed Randall to transfer from his pending CD purchases, to cashing them out, and transferring the proceeds to his checking account and pay off his auto and consumer loans. The Federal Reserve Bank of New York didn't lose dime, because as soon as it was presented to them they rejected all of them.

That's the truth. We'll see if my posts are allowed to be posted, As Wes has said on another site, the ones who call us censorers and cry that we don't allow the truth, are the same ones who never let our posts here see the light of day.

[Jeffrey]

You should also point out that the records of the ACH transactions returning code 03 “account doesn’t exist” were presented at the trial, the IUV observers saw it. Which is exactly what would happen given that Randy was using a Ginnie Mae routing number and he doesn’t have an account there. The ACH wasn’t reversed, it failed.

[wserra]

Wes, when you got dragged into a discussion of why the wire transfer cannot be reversed, you might not have been aware of a crucial distinction, the transactions weren't wire transfers, they were ACH transactions.

Thanks, Gregg. You are of course correct. What I wrote about UCC Art 4A was (I think) correct as well. All could have been much simpler, though - given the ACH transaction, you don't need to discuss the rejections and acceptances of bank-to-bank wires. In any event, neither type of transaction allows Beane to print money.

[Jeffrey]

Important point to bring up, Heather herself ended up agreeing with the prosecution that the money didn’t come from the federal reserve, rather that it came from USAA because they failed to put a hold on the CDs.

[Gregg]

Well, butter me up and call me biscuit, they allowed my post.

I'm going to take the rest of the day off to watch the hockey games in hell.

[grixit]

Well, butter me up and call me biscuit, they allowed my post.

I'm going to take the rest of the day off to watch the hockey games in hell.

Don't do it! At hockey games in Hell, they only serve beer officially designated as "not fit to wash my feet with" by Burnaby.

[Gregg]

Only peasants drink beer at a hockey game.

Bourbon, man, Bourbon.

[notorial dissent]

Don't confuse those turnips any more than they already are. They don't really understand money, how checking accounts work is beyond them, and ACH and wire transfers are total magic.

[Gregg]

Well, butter me up and call me biscuit, they allowed my post.

I'm going to take the rest of the day off to watch the hockey games in hell.

Don't do it! At hockey games in Hell, they only serve beer officially designated as "not fit to wash my feet with" by Burnaby.

I did! Demons beat the Minions 3-2.

[wserra]

Ah, that's only because the ice melted so quickly there was no point in using the Zamboni. Zambonis make short work of Demons.

[BoomerSooner17]

Ah, that's only because the ice melted so quickly there was no point in using the Zamboni. Zambonis make short work of Demons.

"The ice we skate, is gettin' pretty thin. The water's gettin' warm, so you might as well swim. My world's on fire, how about yours? That's the way I like it and I never get bored."

It's fortunate that the IUV folks are unsinkable rubber ducks, because Heather is on thin ice.