Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

[Burnaby49]

Ian Mcmahon well then that is tacit acquiescence them agreeing to these conditions after 12 weeks thats a lawful contract

So he's won and got his house back! Time for you scoffers to finally admit that he's right.

[longdog]

Ah... Truly one of the most magnificent aspects of English jurisprudence. Being on bail for assaulting a police officer automatically overturns all previous civil proceedings.

[hucknallred]

So he's won and got his house back! Time for you scoffers to finally admit that he's right.

He only lost it briefly before just going back in. I started this thread over 2 years ago when he stopped paying his mortgage. Things do move slowly in the UK.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Things do move slowly in the UK.

Mainly because it works on the principle that people stop paying because they are in financial distress and will honour civil orders. For the majority it works fine and prevents repossessions when there is an option to restructure payments or delay repossession to allow a managed rather than a fire sale, as is what happened when my sister's violent partner stopped paying the mortgage in order to try to make her and her children homeless.

Where it has problem is where there is wilful obstruction and, frustrating as it seems, I think it's a reasonable price to pay to protect the majority who do play by the rules but have just had bad luck. Crabbie will eventually be out. He has already lost his asset. The mortgage company will not lose money.

[AndyPandy]

So he's won and got his house back! Time for you scoffers to finally admit that he's right.

He only lost it briefly before just going back in. I started this thread over 2 years ago when he stopped paying his mortgage. Things do move slowly in the UK.

Makes me wonder if he hadn’t secretly paid off the arrears and claiming ‘victory’. If the Trustee in his bankruptcy has been selling his assets could be that there’s something left over and he’s used it to pay the arrears.

Would be interesting to see what the entry on the Land Registry is reading, if he hasn’t paid the arrears would the repossession have taken his name off the title and just show the banks ?

[aesmith]

Would be interesting to see what the entry on the Land Registry is reading, if he hasn’t paid the arrears would the repossession have taken his name off the title and just show the banks ?

I know the circumstances were different, but Rehka's title continued to show the pre-possession proprietor until it was changed to the eventual purchaser. Does the order for vacant possession and/or order for sale (or whatever is applicable) get recorded at the Land Registry?

[hucknallred]

Makes me wonder if he hadn’t secretly paid off the arrears and claiming ‘victory’. If the Trustee in his bankruptcy has been selling his assets could be that there’s something left over and he’s used it to pay the arrears.

Entirely speculation, but will there be any surplus? His merry journey started with unpaid business rates on the nightclub, anyone remember the amount? £30k rings a bell.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Does the order for vacant possession and/or order for sale (or whatever is applicable) get recorded at the Land Registry?

It might do, but the public record for £3 only tends to have the most recent entries, not the full history.

I've been toying with getting it (I've accessed Neelu's and O'Bonker's previously), but I don't think it will have any significant change until it is sold so that would be a good part of a pint wasted!

[mufc1959]

Would be interesting to see what the entry on the Land Registry is reading, if he hasn’t paid the arrears would the repossession have taken his name off the title and just show the banks ?

I know the circumstances were different, but Rehka's title continued to show the pre-possession proprietor until it was changed to the eventual purchaser. Does the order for vacant possession and/or order for sale (or whatever is applicable) get recorded at the Land Registry?

The Land Registry proprietorship register remains in the name of the borrower. The lender is selling under the power of sale inherent in the mortgage deed. The lender is allowed to sign the TR1 (transfer of title) to the new owner because of the Power of Attorney (that 'hidden, secret PoA' that the Footlers are so fond of feigning outrage over) which is always a term of the mortgage, to cover this very eventuality.

[Gregg]

So he's won and got his house back! Time for you scoffers to finally admit that he's right.

He only lost it briefly before just going back in. I started this thread over 2 years ago when he stopped paying his mortgage. Things do move slowly in the UK.

Makes me wonder if he hadn’t secretly paid off the arrears and claiming ‘victory’. If the Trustee in his bankruptcy has been selling his assets could be that there’s something left over and he’s used it to pay the arrears.

Would be interesting to see what the entry on the Land Registry is reading, if he hasn’t paid the arrears would the repossession have taken his name off the title and just show the banks ?

Over here, by the time it gets this far, the bank is done with you and the arrears won't do, they demand the unpaid balance in full. Our mortgages have a clause that allows this after a default of more than X numbers of days, usually 60 or 90 I think.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Poor old Crabbie thinks his assault charge is a civil offence.

Robert White Brown Darren can't wait to show people the police video evidence, but I'll wait until the case has finished. They probably decided to do what what they done because of my previous going back over 40 years. Not that that should make any difference in a civil matter, but we shall see I'm sure everyone will find the whole story very interesting and wake a lot of people up.

Over 40 years? Ooh. I'm intrigued. I only knew about the drunk driving conviction.

Still, he's getting his high hopes tempered from an unexpected source.

David Robinson Robert White I wish I had your confidence bro...i've heard the same thing from others before they got screwed over anyway..Dean Clifford in Canada...Tom Crawford....John Patterson...now being detained in amental institution and others....I know you know what the game is so I am interested in what you achieve Rob.....and I wish you well if John Anthony Hill can do it in a crown court (7-7 Ripple effect) then so can you!...

For those not au fait with John Hill, he's a 7/7 conspiracy nutter. He sent his "documentary" DVD to the judge and jury foreman during a trial. His acquittal was more due to the items being intercepted by the court and not delivered to the recipients rather than the claims of the idiots who support him.

[hucknallred]

Over 40 years? Ooh. I'm intrigued. I only knew about the drunk driving conviction.

I posted a link to one of his Facebook videos, I think it may have been on the PLD thread before he got his own, it it he basically said he'd been inside for about half of his adult life.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

I'm beginning to think Crabbie is getting the idea that people don't give a shit about his court case.

Right I’m on a mission now.

After the latest revelations from the cps (crown prosecution service) concerning my case, I have all the evidence I need to show how corrupt the system is. I’m still demanding more, but I don’t need it. They’ve now disclosed 5 items of evidence out of 13 items, and the last items if you could see them would make you understand why I’m doing what I’m doing. If you don’t believe me you’re welcome to come to my home and see it for yourself, my address is 29 Park Road, Sheerness, Kent, ME12 1UY.

If the cps still want to go ahead with the case (any time from 19th August), I’ll put a post up on facebook with the details of where and when. At the moment it’s going to be heard at Maidstone crown court. It wouldn’t surprise me if they change the venue, but I doubt it as it’s only a minor charge of affray.

What I ask is if anyone can attend please do so you can see what I’m fighting for, and I’m not doing it just for me, this is for everyone that don’t believe. I won’t find out when it is until after 4pm the day before, as soon as I find out I’ll post it publicly.

So I ask all my family in the Kent area to come along. I don’t give a shit what commitments you might have (unless it’s really serious), be there or if you’re not I’ll know you don’t care. Don’t think I need to say any more than that, apart from maybe look at it as a funeral, everyone turns up for them.

(My highlighting!)

Further comment from Crabbie. I suspect his record is more than a little drink driving!

Robert White They don't know me at all, just because they've seen my record going back over 40 years they think they know how I work. How wrong they are. I have made some bad moves, but most of my convictions were for a good reason. This case is payback and hopefully one to wake up a few more people.

[Chaos]

I don’t give a shit what commitments you might have (unless it’s really serious), be there or if you’re not I’ll know you don’t care

I'm sure they'll all be doing something with o'berners.........much like you did when you were suppose to show up. just sayin'

[longdog]

I posted a link to one of his Facebook videos, I think it may have been on the PLD thread before he got his own, it it he basically said he'd been inside for about half of his adult life.

I suspect, if it's even half true which I doubt, it'll be for crimes of dishonesty and nothing to do with the obviously bogus Billy Big Bollocks hard man act he's unconvincingly trying to put across.

For a long while now I've been convinced that his bravado is just that and in reality he knows he's lost and is shitting bricks about what the future holds for him. I've never seen a scrap of evidence that anybody has ever taken him seriously let alone think he's some even third rate gangsta.

[notorial dissent]

Our little Quail is, among other things, a coward, a bully, a liar, violent, and verbally nasty. I can't imagine why anyone would want to be around him. I can't imagine he has any friends, and his followers I would suspect are that in name only. In other words, as you put it, he is all by his ownsome.

[longdog]

Being both a bully and a coward I doubt he ever tries to get violent with anybody who is likely to take serious umbrage. Having a pop at the cops is easy because they should, in theory at least, stop thumping you when you are no longer a threat. Other people not so constrained by the law may take a more personally aggrieved attitude and administer a more substantial physical admonishment.

[longdog]

He's still putting his hopes in his spurious claim that the CPS haven't given disclosure...

[AnOwlCalledSage]

He's still putting his hopes in his spurious claim that the CPS haven't given disclosure...

I wouldn't be so sure that that isn't a good hook to hang his hopes on. Whilst there is plenty of politicing over the number of police officers, the real scandal is that CPS has had annual budget cuts of £250m and are expected to do the same job.

Only last week a slam dunk prosecution failed because the CPS failed to disclose evidence to the defence in time.

Paul Bussetti found Not Guilty over Grenfell tower effigy bonfire video, after "appalling" failings in disclosure which meant key evidence was kept hidden from his legal team.

Note: the withheld evidence did not prove his innocence of committing a lesser offence but it did blow a massive hole in the one he was charged with so it was thrown out.

Legal twitter is quite depressing at times...

Here at Swansea Crown two cocaine dealers have avoided immediate prison because of “staggering” delays in case. They were caught with £4k of drugs, £720 cash, & phone full of incriminating texts. Released under investigation, they were sent postal requisitions *25* months later.

State of criminal justice system today.

Murder trial at the Bailey (flagship court): the lights are so dim over the witness box (several broken) that the officer going through key evidence had to request a lamp to read schedule.

Reason: cost of scaffolding to replace bulbs.

Thanks to everyone who contributed. Across 34 Crown Court centres, there are 127 court rooms out of 260, doing absolutely nothing this morning. There are thousands of cases backed up, re-listed and delayed. Action has got to start matching the spin.

Snaresbrook empty. Just seen two Rape trials given listings for the end of June next year, 2020. 6 courts of 20 open tomorrow at Snaresbrook. No recorders. So much for speedy justice.

All this whilst the public is being fed a diet of fat cat solicitors to justify it.

“I’m a trainee solicitor specialising in criminal defence. I earn £16,000. I earned more as a receptionist during university vacations. After a long day at the office, court, prison or wherever I may be, I am lucky if I am home before 8pm.”

Of course, all this does is incentivise idiots like Crabbie to play the game until the CPS inevitably cock it up from lack of resources.

[longdog]

I wouldn't be so sure that that isn't a good hook to hang his hopes on. Whilst there is plenty of politicing over the number of police officers, the real scandal is that CPS has had annual budget cuts of £250m and are expected to do the same job.

I'm not saying a failure to disclose isn't a perfectly valid defence but from his previous drivel it's clear that Crabbert is demanding the CPS disclose information they don't have about things that are not relevant. Like the intricate details of the civil case that led to him losing the house in the first place.

He's using the same tactic as the "conditional acceptance" nonsense. Ask questions that the other party cannot possibly answer or are not obliged to answer and then claim victory when they don't answer. I can't see the judge having much truck with it to be honest.