The comedy court of Common Law

[mufc1959]

HHJ Smith also seems to have scant knowledge or understanding of the libel laws of this country. He's set up a website in the name of the pension business concerned which has photographs of the CEO and her daughter, and makes what I would suggest are highly libellous comments. The website address is the same as the original company, except for an extra hyphen. The content is designed to damage the business.I won't post the link, because I don't think it's fair on the parties involved to do so, but I think HHJ Smith is on very thin ice here.

[aesmith]

Will someone please explain to the CLC that we don't have public notaries over here?

In Scotland we do. To her shame a solicitor in Newmachar actually notarised one of his documents in this case. I think there's an equivalent in England but called something different.

[TBL]

HHJ Smith also seems to have scant knowledge or understanding of the libel laws of this country. He's set up a website in the name of the pension business concerned which has photographs of the CEO and her daughter, and makes what I would suggest are highly libellous comments. The website address is the same as the original company, except for an extra hyphen. The content is designed to damage the business.I won't post the link, because I don't think it's fair on the parties involved to do so, but I think HHJ Smith is on very thin ice here.

I think someone should drop a line to that conveniently located email address with a copy of the libel laws that would be relevant.

[notorial dissent]

Possibly cyber stalking as well, and possibly fraud. A complaint to the ISP would probably take it down.

[John Uskglass]

Wierdly. and somewhat confusingly if you were looking for the Play Court version, 'Carey Pensions court case' will bring up masses of references to a real, and apparently significant High Court case.

Most of the reports I scanned were from specialist legal sites, so a bit impenetrable, but this is quite clear.

Hundreds” of claims relating to SIPPs are on hold with the Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS), pending the outcome of the Carey Pensions case, a solicitor has said.

APJ solicitor Glyn Taylor said the slow litigation process surrounding the Adams vs Carey Pensions case – which was heard at the High Court in London last March – meant “hundreds” of cases were on hold with the FOS, pending the outcome.

A year ago, almost to the day, self-invested personal pension (SIPP) provider Carey Pensions was accused of being “in bed with scammers” at the High Court.

Lorry driver Russell Adams alleged Carey Pensions mis-sold him a SIPP. He and his lawyers accused the SIPP firm of using a Spain-based unregulated introducer to facilitate investments in Store First unit pods.

Taylor suggested the judgement on the case was taking a long time to implement because of its high-profile nature: “It is unusual, to say the least, for it to take 12 months for the initial judgement to be handed down,” he said. “It is such a high-profile case as far as the industry is concerned, and has the involvement of the Financial Conduct Authority [FCA].

“The FCA made very bold submissions as to what it considers to be the regulatory requirements. I can only think really they that want to get it right. I still think [the judgement] will be appealable either way.”

APJs’ clients include customers of SIPP providers Liberty SIPP and Guinness Mahon. Taylor said the FOS had provisionally upheld some cases against Liberty SIPP, which the SIPP provider is now appealing.

The FOS declined to comment.

https://www.retirement-planner.co.uk/23 ... rumbles-on

One can imagine all sorts of hilarious consequences from HHJ Smith's interventions being added to the mix....

[MiddlesexFinn]

Will someone please explain to the CLC that we don't have public notaries over here?

In Scotland we do. To her shame a solicitor in Newmachar actually notarised one of his documents in this case. I think there's an equivalent in England but called something different.

I thought solicitors were automatically pubic notaries?

[Siegfried Shrink]

The usual, though possibly less used now, term is Commisioner of Oaths.

The essential function is much the same, attestation of signatures.

It is important for the pseudo-law fans that the notarisation or attestation applies only to the signature and the content of the document is entirely irrelevant and immaterial.
It can be the most utter hogwash, including His Dishonour Smith's play court papers, all that is notarised is that an identifiable person signed it.

[Footloose52]

HHJ Smith also seems to have scant knowledge or understanding of the libel laws of this country. He's set up a website in the name of the pension business concerned which has photographs of the CEO and her daughter, and makes what I would suggest are highly libellous comments. The website address is the same as the original company, except for an extra hyphen. The content is designed to damage the business.I won't post the link, because I don't think it's fair on the parties involved to do so, but I think HHJ Smith is on very thin ice here.

Wouldn't it be a shame if someone tipped off Carey Pensions

[AnOwlCalledSage]

It can be the most utter hogwash, including His Dishonour Smith's play court papers, all that is notarised is that an identifiable person signed it.

It is also a main feature of both the USA and UK stupidity that, in their heads, an unrebutted witnessed/notarised statement send to an individual becomes "true" if it is not "denied". That the usual filing by recipients of this trash is in the bin is immaterial to them.

The only demarcation issue is that some of them know it's bunkum but profit of selling "services" and the rest are gullible morons. Winnowing the chaff after a good threshing is most of the fun around here!

[JimUk1]

Excellent news re: the Pensions judgement at the CLC! I shall have to use them against Neil Woodford to rescue my trapped funds and ensure everyone in the same situation as me are well aware of this excellent alternative to real courts.

I can’t wait to see the look on Neil Woodfords face when he receives his judgement from CLC

[CrankyBoomer]

I registered for Quatloos! today though I've read it on and off for a while. At one time in my working life I was a legal secretary and while I never worked for a Notary Public I can assure you they do exist in England (and I presume Wales also). They are referred to as notaries public rather than public notaries (I suppose from the days when "legalese" in the UK was dominated by Norman French roots - where most adjectives would have followed the noun).www.thenotariessociety.org.uk scrivener-notaries.org.uk

[Footloose52]

I registered for Quatloos! today though I've read it on and off for a while. At one time in my working life I was a legal secretary and while I never worked for a Notary Public I can assure you they do exist in England (and I presume Wales also). They are referred to as notaries public rather than public notaries (I suppose from the days when "legalese" in the UK was dominated by Norman French roots - where most adjectives would have followed the noun).www.thenotariessociety.org.uk scrivener-notaries.org.uk

I don't know why but those links don't work for me.

Try these:

https://www.thenotariessociety.org.uk

https://scrivener-notaries.org.uk/

[CrankyBoomer]

Footloose, I don't know why the links didn't work - I copied them and pasted them after clicking the link icon. Still I am the new (old) girl on the block and not yet familiar with any little quirks of this site. Thank you for posting links that function!

[AnOwlCalledSage]

I don't know why the links didn't work - I copied them and pasted them after clicking the link icon.

I think it's because the phpBB URL BBcode is creating relative links. If you add http:// or https:// when posting links it should work.

[Pottapaug1938]

I registered for Quatloos! today though I've read it on and off for a while. At one time in my working life I was a legal secretary and while I never worked for a Notary Public I can assure you they do exist in England (and I presume Wales also). They are referred to as notaries public rather than public notaries (I suppose from the days when "legalese" in the UK was dominated by Norman French roots - where most adjectives would have followed the noun).www.thenotariessociety.org.uk scrivener-notaries.org.uk

Welcome aboard!

[TBL]

I registered for Quatloos! today though I've read it on and off for a while. At one time in my working life I was a legal secretary and while I never worked for a Notary Public I can assure you they do exist in England (and I presume Wales also). They are referred to as notaries public rather than public notaries (I suppose from the days when "legalese" in the UK was dominated by Norman French roots - where most adjectives would have followed the noun).www.thenotariessociety.org.uk scrivener-notaries.org.uk

Welcome aboard!
From what I've seen here across the pond, we refer to them as Notaries Public as well in general.

[Siegfried Shrink]

CrankyBoomer, Welcome to the House of Fun.

[mufc1959]

The CLC has a map of where its members live. I was disappointed to see that there's nobody in my area, not even Jimmy One-Cell.

http://www.communitywalk.com/clc_members/map/2274031

Worth a look to see if there's any down your street.

[Footloose52]

The CLC has a map of where its members live. I was disappointed to see that there's nobody in my area, not even Jimmy One-Cell.

http://www.communitywalk.com/clc_members/map/2274031

Worth a look to see if there's any down your street.

That's got to be multiple GDPR breaches right there.

[NYGman]

That's got to be multiple GDPR breaches right there.

Thinking the same thing. Alternately, it serves as a handy guide for when the PTB want to round up all the scofflaws