Shrout, Winston

[JohnPCapitalist]

Perhaps someone with an hour to kill might call FCI Sheridan and see whether he shuffled off this mortal coil or whether something else happened. He's a fairly notorious inmate so somebody ought to know off the top of their head.

I alerted Maxine at the Oregonian,who had written about him before.

[TBL]

If he were transported to a different facility, would we see this kind of report during the transport?

[Famspear]

If he were transported to a different facility, would we see this kind of report during the transport?

I'm not sure. I am thinking that the report would be "in transit" or something like that.

[The Observer]

If Shrout was terminally or even critically ill, there would still be a process to go through to gain compassionate release, no? I can't imagine that BoP can just release a prisoner on the decision of a local official?

And if Shrout was transferred to a hospital for treatment or care, I would think that BoP would still reflect that he is still under BoP's custody. But I could be wrong, and that the issue is that Shrout's medical history is still protected under the law.

[NYGman]

Any news on Winston's great escape?

[Jeffrey]

People have their tentacles out feeling for updates. Nothing so far.

[daddy]

Of course, it wasn't really Winston the man that got convicted, but WINSTON SHROUT, a legal fiction, persona, vizard, a contemplation of law to be the subject of rights and duties, to which Winston, by his express or implied consent, adjoined.

[Pottapaug1938]

Of course, it wasn't really Winston the man that got convicted, but WINSTON SHROUT, a legal fiction, persona, vizard, a contemplation of law to be the subject of rights and duties, to which Winston, by his express or implied consent, adjoined.

It's very funny how people like Winston are quite willing to merge the legal fiction with the flesh and blood person, when it comes to getting things, but suddenly demand severance when it's a question of complying with obligations.

[TBL]

Of course, it wasn't really Winston the man that got convicted, but WINSTON SHROUT, a legal fiction, persona, vizard, a contemplation of law to be the subject of rights and duties, to which Winston, by his express or implied consent, adjoined.

It's very funny how people like Winston are quite willing to merge the legal fiction with the flesh and blood person, when it comes to getting things, but suddenly demand severance when it's a question of complying with obligations.

Sovereign citizens in a nutshell.

[daddy]

It's very funny how people like Winston are quite willing to merge the legal fiction with the flesh and blood person, when it comes to getting things, but suddenly demand severance when it's a question of complying with obligations.

And what exactly are the "things" he's "getting"?

[NYGman]

Just a thought, maybe they let the name out but are keeping the body, preferable on ice, ready for pickup.

[The Observer]

A simple check of the death certificates at the appropriate county in Oregon would show something.

[Resume]

It's very funny how people like Winston are quite willing to merge the legal fiction with the flesh and blood person, when it comes to getting things, but suddenly demand severance when it's a question of complying with obligations.

And what exactly are the "things" he's "getting"?

Well, if he's truly croaked, embalming would be my guess. If not, three hots and a cot.

[Jeffrey]

Death certificates aren’t public record. We run into this issue every time there’s rumors of a guru dying. You have to hope the family prints an obituary for confirmation. And sometimes the obituaries are there to fake their death as happened with KC Massey.

Anyways he might not even be dead. Might be a transfer or any number of things.

[Pottapaug1938]

It's very funny how people like Winston are quite willing to merge the legal fiction with the flesh and blood person, when it comes to getting things, but suddenly demand severance when it's a question of complying with obligations.

And what exactly are the "things" he's "getting"?

The benefits currently available to law-abiding citizens who pay their taxes -- police and fire services, municipal services, and much more.

[Resume]

It's very funny how people like Winston are quite willing to merge the legal fiction with the flesh and blood person, when it comes to getting things, but suddenly demand severance when it's a question of complying with obligations.

And what exactly are the "things" he's "getting"?

The benefits currently available to law-abiding citizens who pay their taxes -- police and fire services, municipal services, and much more.

All the good stuff that results from being a productive member of society, rather than a scofflaw, a tax dodger, a pseudo-attorney or someone with "you ain't the boss of me" syndrome. There are also methods with which to address those who may fall through the cracks of society, but those methods don't include filming minor traffic infractions to post on YouTube as violations of some personal, imaginary Constitution, rather than the one that actually exists. You know, morons.

[The Observer]

Death certificates aren’t public record. We run into this issue every time there’s rumors of a guru dying. You have to hope the family prints an obituary for confirmation. And sometimes the obituaries are there to fake their death as happened with KC Massey.

Anyways he might not even be dead. Might be a transfer or any number of things.

Depends on the particular state and its policy. For instance in California, informational death certificates are available to the public, you just can't receive an authorized certificate for the asking.

[Famspear]

Winston Shrout is now a resident of the United States Penitentiary at Victorville, California. According to the facility's web site, this is a "high security" facility.

[notorial dissent]

Winston Shrout is now a resident of the United States Penitentiary at Victorville, California. According to the facility's web site, this is a "high security" facility.

Sounds like someone didn't play nice with his toys.

[Resume]

It's very funny how people like Winston are quite willing to merge the legal fiction with the flesh and blood person, when it comes to getting things, but suddenly demand severance when it's a question of complying with obligations.

And what exactly are the "things" he's "getting"?

Probably the rest of his life in a Cali Fed Pen.