Random Freemanesque Babblings II: Back to the Futile

[longdog]

Slips? Hardly, sir. You were demonstrating well-founded sovereign citizen/freeman beliefs in embellishing the currency with your identifiers instead of relying on the artificial constructs of the government.

I was doing it under my full commercial and personal liability.

Well that's what the judge said anyway.

[Dr. Caligari]

My forged twenties we absolutely perfect until a lack of concentration led to me using my passport photo instead of the queen's head and I mistakenly used my own signature and put "C/O Flat 7, 43 Crap-Towers, Hull" instead of "Governor of The Bank of England".

Reminds me of the episode of the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show [did you get Rocky & Bullwinkle in the UK?] where the couterfeiters put Davy Crockett's picture on the $5 bill.

[longdog]

I believe it was shown on the indoor electronic kinematograph.

I was more thinking about "Bottom".

<on phone>

Hello? Skullcrusher Henderson?

Yeah, it's Dick Head here.

No, don't laugh.

Yeah, I have in my possession a very rare and extraordinarily pornographic £27 note, which may be of interest to a man in your position.

What? Well, it's Sylvester Stallone fisting what looks like Mister MacHenry from "The Magic Roundabout".

[grixit]

So which clause of Magnum Charter allows you to keep a caravan & grow veg on somebody else's land?

Just wanted to mention, that no matter how many times i see it, the british use of the word "caravan" to mean a single vehicle instead of a group of them on a journey with usually a mercantile or diplomatic purpose, strikes me as weird.

[JimUk1]

I believe it was shown on the indoor electronic kinematograph.

I was more thinking about "Bottom".

<on phone>

Hello? Skullcrusher Henderson?

Yeah, it's Dick Head here.

No, don't laugh.

Yeah, I have in my possession a very rare and extraordinarily pornographic £27 note, which may be of interest to a man in your position.

What? Well, it's Sylvester Stallone fisting what looks like Mister MacHenry from "The Magic Roundabout".

Well, Rik Mayall was correct about those notes. I go to Hamburg twice yearly, and I’ve never been able to buy them under the counter

[longdog]

"It's A queen!"

[John Uskglass]

the british use of the word "caravan" to mean a single vehicle instead of a group of them on a journey

Maybe it's because on your average UK road, the presence of a caravan usually involves a large group of vehicles behind it?

[hucknallred]

Maybe it's because on your average UK road, the presence of a caravan usually involves a large group of vehicles behind it?

As someone who has recently become a caravanist I must take issue with that.
Last century that may have been the case with a 1.6l Ford Cortina towing a van with no stabilising hitch. But nowadays any decent turbo diesel of 2.0l upwards & the now de facto Alko stabilising hitch will have you tugging that fragile lump along at a fair old lick. Mine is 1500Kg loaded & my previous Mondeo 2.0 & current CX-5 2.2 tug it along as if it wasn't there.

[TBL]

Maybe it's because on your average UK road, the presence of a caravan usually involves a large group of vehicles behind it?

As someone who has recently become a caravanist I must take issue with that.
Last century that may have been the case with a 1.6l Ford Cortina towing a van with no stabilising hitch. But nowadays any decent turbo diesel of 2.0l upwards & the now de facto Alko stabilising hitch will have you tugging that fragile lump along at a fair old lick. Mine is 1500Kg loaded & my previous Mondeo 2.0 & current CX-5 2.2 tug it along as if it wasn't there.

I have to ask, are all UK caravans those teardrop shaped ~15' tiny things? I know everything is bigger here in the colonies, but the last time I towed a US camper it was 37' long and weighed in at ~5500 lbs. Luckily I had over 400lb/ft in my V8 happy-hippo, so towing it ~2000 miles wasn't an issue, although I averaged something like 8 mpg.

[longdog]

I have to ask, are all UK caravans those teardrop shaped ~15' tiny things? I know everything is bigger here in the colonies, but the last time I towed a US camper it was 37' long and weighed in at ~5500 lbs. Luckily I had over 400lb/ft in my V8 happy-hippo, so towing it ~2000 miles wasn't an issue, although I averaged something like 8 mpg.

Most caravans in the UK are around the 15' mark and around 1000kg (2000 American bushels or something).

I don't know how it works in the US but in the UK a vehicle will have a maximum towing weight that legally speaking cannot be exceeded. Very few will have the ability to (legally at least) tow a two tonne trailer.

The law gets very confusing when it comes to what you can tow if anything on a car licence. Due to various "grandfathering" laws some people can can only drive a vehicle with a total weight of 3500kg, some can go up to 8.250kg and some can't tow anything without taking a separate test.

I have an HGV licence so I can do whatever the hell I like

[TBL]

Yeah, so here there's no licensing requirements for towing. There's even a bit of a meme on it. Driving a 15-passenger van? You need a license to do that. Driving a 6,500 lb. truck and 12,000 lb. trailer? No additional license required. A 40' RV with a semi engine? No worries. It's a little crazy.
But, I do wonder how a family of 5, such as mine, would be able to effectively use a 15' camper to sleep, eat, and live in? Our much larger camper still felt tight on the trip.

[longdog]

But, I do wonder how a family of 5, such as mine, would be able to effectively use a 15' camper to sleep, eat, and live in? Our much larger camper still felt tight on the trip.

I wouldn't want to spend more time than was absolutely necessary in one. I can see their use for somewhere to sleep but any sort of actually living in one would drive me nuts. They're just semi-rigid tents with wheels on as far as I'm concerned and just as appealing for a holiday... Not even slightly.

[hucknallred]

Most caravans in the UK are around the 15' mark and around 1000kg (2000 American bushels or something).

I don't know how it works in the US but in the UK a vehicle will have a maximum towing weight that legally speaking cannot be exceeded. Very few will have the ability to (legally at least) tow a two tonne trailer.

UK cars have a VIN plate, that shows maximum gross weight & then maximum train weight, deduct the gross from the train to get your maximum towing weight. For a decent size car eg. Mondeo or CX-5 that I mentioned the (braked) towing limit is in fact 2000Kg, or 2 old money tons give ot take a bucket of coal difference. Like I say, towing has come on a bit.

[hucknallred]

I wouldn't want to spend more time than was absolutely necessary in one. I can see their use for somewhere to sleep but any sort of actually living in one would drive me nuts. They're just semi-rigid tents with wheels on as far as I'm concerned and just as appealing for a holiday... Not even slightly.

I can see this point of view. I see people with Caravans & Motorhomes who are quite obviously not short of a bob or two. If you are a couple & this fortunate then I don't see the point. However, if you've a couple of kids & limited to holidaying in school holidays then they make perfect sense. A holiday in a static in summer could be up to £1.5k, whereas a with a tourer you'll struggle to pay more than £30-40 a night including hook up. Stick up an awning on the side & space is adequate.
One thing I do not entertain is performing bodily functions, the fitted growler is off limits & unused. There are perfectly servicable toilet/shower blocks a couple of minutes walk away.

I bought ours cheap & second hand 4 years ago & it's paid for itself on the above maths. No my son is older he's getting bored of it & will be doing his own thing soon, so it will be sold next year probably.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Jay Lemon
Voting?
If we are required by "Law" to register to vote, why the Feck do we all have to 'sign' the ballot paper with an 'X'?
That ain't my sign, FFS!

You don't have to sign with an "X".

Karl Newton
Your not required by law to register to vote. There is no legal requirement to be on the electoral role. You are however legally obliged to inform everyone who lives in each household.

Yes. Yes, you are.

Marc Tyou
No, you are required by legislation to register. Not law.

Dissent in the ranks!

Ian Brewster
the "x" is a scam to give a fraudulent government a "get out" in the event any argument arises .As it stands an "x" on the basis of national population actually voting not a single card with an "x" on it cannot be called in evidence against the government should legal matters arise it is a PRESUMPTION (mental conditioning) that you must register to vote and be registered blah blah blah .... when in fact anyone would be simply voting for the EXECUTIVE OFFICE for the corporation known as UK GOVERNMENT PLC......voting takes place to make you feel they act for you when its all about PROFIT eg taxes etc

A moron speaks!

If anyone is in any doubt, a smiley face in the appropriate box counts as a vote.

[JimUk1]

We’ve known someone write “f**k” in the box and it got accepted as a vote for a candidate. You don’t have to mark it with ‘x’ it just helps stop arguments at the end of the count.

Surprised they didn’t mention the pencil crap that gets flouted every election.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

We’ve known someone write “f**k” in the box and it got accepted as a vote for a candidate. You don’t have to mark it with ‘x’ it just helps stop arguments at the end of the count.

I guess the other election agents were asleep. Does not indicate a clear preference!

Surprised they didn’t mention the pencil crap that gets flouted every election.

#usepens pen is best.

[eric]

We’ve known someone write “f**k” in the box and it got accepted as a vote for a candidate. You don’t have to mark it with ‘x’ it just helps stop arguments at the end of the count.

Surprised they didn’t mention the pencil crap that gets flouted every election.

The last election I worked had one spoiled ballot at my polling station - The voter distributed "f**ck" between all four candidates' boxes and finished with "them all". Yes we had the typical stupidity about pens and pencils, voters claiming I was a hired lackey of the eastern liberal establishment, and that I must be biased since I had the sign up that my booth was the designated both official languages booth.

[JimUk1]

We’ve known someone write “f**k” in the box and it got accepted as a vote for a candidate. You don’t have to mark it with ‘x’ it just helps stop arguments at the end of the count.

I guess the other election agents were asleep. Does not indicate a clear preference!

Surprised they didn’t mention the pencil crap that gets flouted every election.

#usepens pen is best.

They could have been asleep? Although I think it was for an candidate who wouldn’t have even come close to the majority candidate so there was no disagreement?
Heard of other marks getting the nod, apparently writing “yes” is prevalent

[AnOwlCalledSage]

I accepted a smiley face as being a vote for another candidate, but failed to get "is a wanker" as being a mark in favour of mine!