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In fairness to all religious people without going down that particular rabbit hole I don't think ATW actually holds any real belief that he's doing "God's work" or anything like that. If you read his arguments on the matter or listen to him talk about it (I don't recommend it it's NOT very enlightening) he does the same second rate wordplay with religion as he does with his lawyer schtick. He is well aware (likely from using church outreach programs to find desperate marks) that many people such as Rudy will overlook everything else if he can convince them that he shares their faith. So he wraps himself up in jargon to make his empty speeches on religion seem deeper and just like that he couldn't POSSIBLY be meaning to hurt anyone he's clearly deeply religious. This is most clear in his avoidance of any discussion of morality or teaching in favor of arguing about the translation of names much like his insistants on lawful vs legal and other meaningless empty jargon. In short Williams doesn't believe he's doing the work or Christ, Muhammad, Moses, Siddhartha, Zues or Satan himself for that matter; but he does know claiming to be is all he needs to do to guarantee the loyalty of the worst section of that population. He's a Qanon talking head for Christians.
949 - PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT of TESTIMONY OF JOSEPH LAVELLE Proceedings as to Anthony T. Williams- held on 02-05, 06-2020, before Judge Leslie E. Kobayashi.
950 - PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT of Proceedings JT - DAY 4 (TESTIMONY OF LOREEN TROXELL) as to Anthony T. Williams- held on 02-06-2020, before Judge Leslie E. Kobayashi.
951 - PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT of Proceedings JT - DAY 4 (TESTIMONY OF JULITA ASUNCION) as to Anthony T. Williams- held on 02-06-2020, before Judge Leslie E. Kobayashi.
The transcript is on the Rudy ihatethefbi.comScottComstock wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:32 pm Looks like transcripts are starting to trickle out. They won't be available on PACER until early June, though.
949 - PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT of TESTIMONY OF JOSEPH LAVELLE Proceedings as to Anthony T. Williams- held on 02-05, 06-2020, before Judge Leslie E. Kobayashi.
950 - PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT of Proceedings JT - DAY 4 (TESTIMONY OF LOREEN TROXELL) as to Anthony T. Williams- held on 02-06-2020, before Judge Leslie E. Kobayashi.
951 - PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT of Proceedings JT - DAY 4 (TESTIMONY OF JULITA ASUNCION) as to Anthony T. Williams- held on 02-06-2020, before Judge Leslie E. Kobayashi.
Being headed with "Rudy Davis" and by no means an official court transcript, I find claims of authenticity dubious at best. I'll wait for the court records to read what actually happened.philtejon99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:49 am The transcript is on the Rudy ihatethefbi.com
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You are so right.TBL wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:45 pmBeing headed with "Rudy Davis" and by no means an official court transcript, I find claims of authenticity dubious at best. I'll wait for the court records to read what actually happened.philtejon99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:49 am The transcript is on the Rudy ihatethefbi.com
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I'm fairly sure they didn't know that's what they were doing but Williams and Rudy openly admitted in one of the calls that they were going to cherry pick the transcripts to try and make Williams look better.philtejon99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:57 pmYou are so right.TBL wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:45 pmBeing headed with "Rudy Davis" and by no means an official court transcript, I find claims of authenticity dubious at best. I'll wait for the court records to read what actually happened.philtejon99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:49 am The transcript is on the Rudy ihatethefbi.com
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So, I did actually read the transcripts presented. They did exactly that, even leaving in the page numbers.Baidn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:19 pmI'm fairly sure they didn't know that's what they were doing but Williams and Rudy openly admitted in one of the calls that they were going to cherry pick the transcripts to try and make Williams look better.
Cabebe: 7/2/2020952 - Government's RECEIPT FOR EXHIBITS as to (01) Anthony T. Williams. (emt, ) (Entered: 03/11/2020)
953 - Defendant (01) Anthony T. Williams' RECEIPT FOR EXHIBITS - by (01) Anthony T. Williams. (emt, ) Entered: 03/11/2020)
954 - (no document) EO : as to Anthony T. Williams ; Sentencing is reset at the request of Probation for 7/9/2020 at 03:30 PM in Aha Nonoi before JUDGE LESLIE E. KOBAYASHI.
B. Williams: 7/23/202013 - (no document) EO : as to Anabel Cabebe; Sentencing is reset at the request of Probation for 7/16/2020 at 03:30 PM in Aha Nonoi before JUDGE LESLIE E. KOBAYASHI.
14 - (no document) EO : as to Anabel Cabebel; CORRECTED Sentencing date is set for 7/2/2020 at 03:30 PM in Aha Nonoi before JUDGE LESLIE E. KOBAYASHI.
12 - (no document) EO: as to Barbara Williams; Sentencing is set for 7/23/2020 03:30 PM in Aha Nonoi before JUDGE LESLIE E. KOBAYASHI.
I have mixed feelings on that, on the one hand he might be since he is willing to ride this train right off a cliff and most at least eventually wise up and try to minimize the damage they've done to themselves for at least a chance to rebuild once it becomes irrefutable that they're wrong in their beliefs. On the other he's a conman and he's been at this game quote a while, I think it's equally plausible that he simply is too invested in it and can't think of a better scheme. If that's the case my guess is his thoughts are somewhere along the lines of: there will always be more desperate innocent people that will immediately trust the "help" offered by a "good Christian man" and rubes like Rudy who will swear up and down as to his integrity against all evidence are useful for that but only if he keeps insisting that he's not wrong. A big part of his commitment if it's the later possiblity I would assume is the sunk cost falicy. Same as Parsons but more sinister, just replace "I've lost so much it has to have been worth it!" with "I worked this con so long I can't think of another".
I think, well believe really, that ATW is in fact a true believer of his con spiel. I think he has lived it too long and changed it too little. He has a modicum of intelligence, but only just. Point, he is, and has been, running the same con for the last I don't know how many years and has now gotten busted twice for it. He simply doesn't learn or grow. EVER as far as I can tell. His scam is not even remotely new or inventive or even remotely creative, it is VERY old and tried and tried and failed. ATW is a con man caught in his own con and I 'm not sure he even understands let alone understands why. "He's too smart, too good, they couldn't possibly caught him and beat him. Unless they cheated" At least in his mind. In a sense, they did, they didn't play in his fantasy world, reality bites for someone like him. Sucks to be ATW.Baidn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:58 pmI have mixed feelings on that, on the one hand he might be since he is willing to ride this train right off a cliff and most at least eventually wise up and try to minimize the damage they've done to themselves for at least a chance to rebuild once it becomes irrefutable that they're wrong in their beliefs. On the other he's a conman and he's been at this game quote a while, I think it's equally plausible that he simply is too invested in it and can't think of a better scheme. If that's the case my guess is his thoughts are somewhere along the lines of: there will always be more desperate innocent people that will immediately trust the "help" offered by a "good Christian man" and rubes like Rudy who will swear up and down as to his integrity against all evidence are useful for that but only if he keeps insisting that he's not wrong. A big part of his commitment if it's the later possiblity I would assume is the sunk cost falicy. Same as Parsons but more sinister, just replace "I've lost so much it has to have been worth it!" with "I worked this con so long I can't think of another".
955 - MOTION for Acquittal by Anthony T. Williams. (Attachments: # 1 Declaration of Counsel, # 2 Exhibit "A", # 3 Exhibit "B", # 4 Certificate of Service)(Isaacson, Lars) (Entered: 03/15/2020)
956 - EO: as to (01) Anthony T. Williams:
Defendant, Anthony T. Williams 955 MOTION for Acquittal; will be considered by Judge Leslie E. Kobayashi as a Non Hearing Motion.
Memorandum in Opposition is due on or before 3/30/2020
Reply Memorandum is due on or before 4/13/2020.
Defendant, Anthony T. Williams 955 MOTION for Acquittal will be taken under submission thereafter. Court to issue Order.