$300,000 Income Tax Reward (Peymon Mottahedeh)

[Number Six]

This must be unique, having an active tax protester who still hasn't been shut down after all these years interact with members and experts on this site. Give me the top experts in tax fraud and evasion any day who have soundness of legal judgment and mind that people who persist in gaming the system through torturous legal logic and offer specious challenges to reward people for proving what would never satisfy the guy who doesn't even have the 300 Clevelands.... I've seen most of these cartoon characters come down the pike who flourished in the 1990s, finally the party was largely over for them in the 2000s. I wonder how the current state and federal budget deficits will affect government attitudes toward tax fraud and evasion? Just look at Dan Evans' tax protester faq or Dan Pilla whose father went to jail: https://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html https://www.taxhelponline.com/resources ... laims.html

[notorial dissent]

My impression, FWIW, is that Peymon has managed to survive, despite his boasts and braggadocio in forums like this, has otherwise very intentionally managed to keep an otherwise low profile and stay mostly under the radar as far as the Feds are concerned. My opinion is that he does his best to project an aura of insignificance, which isn't actually untrue, so the authorities tend to ignore him, which you must admit they pretty much have. Even with the actual, valid tax case they have against him nothing much has happened, certainly not in comparison to just about any of the now busted big name gurus. Basically he doesn't really make himself visible to the Feds and he hasn't taken the tack of painting a bullseye on his back, and unlike most of the others he doesn't use his theories in court, he just relies on other bad legal theory.

[The Observer]

Peymon is facing a deadline of June 16 to file his opening brief with the Court.

So did Peymon meet the deadline for the brief filing? Or did he blow that deadline like he did with his appeal to the Ninth?

[wserra]

He filed a motion asking for more time on June 22 - six days after his opening brief was due. Nothing further as of now. The Ninth could summarily deny it, since it was filed out of time, but probably won't. His wife's time - she, unlike him, is represented - was extended to August 16.

[wserra]

Mottahedeh opening brief now due September 16.

[The Observer]

Thanks, Wes.

[wserra]

April Mottahedeh (now pro se) neither filed a brief nor requested more time. Guess it's not that important to her.

The time for Peymon's brief is extended to October 15. The Circuit told him he was not likely to get more time, COVID or no COVID.

[The Observer]

The Mrs. has gone pro se? Guess Peymon convinced her that he had a very cunning plan to win the appeal.

[wserra]

Mottahedeh claims that he has retained appellate counsel, someone he calls "Chuck MacFarland" (actual name: Charles E. McFarland of New Castle, KY). The Ninth Circuit gave him until December 29 to file his brief. My crystal ball tells me that a real lawyer won't assert Payme's bilge. We'll see.

Meanwhile, April Mottahedeh also claims to have found appellate counsel, one Peter Gibbons of Carson City, NV. I've seen that name before, but don't have time to track it down right now. Her appeal has been reinstated (it had been dismissed failure to prosecute). Her brief is due in three days (Dec 7). So far, neither a notice of appearance nor a motion to extend the time appears in the docket.

[Famspear]

[ . . . ] April Mottahedeh also claims to have found appellate counsel, one Peter Gibbons of Carson City, NV. [ . . . ]

Kent Hovind was represented by a Peter Gibbons in one of Hovind's cases in U.S. Tax Court.

See:

http://tpgurus.wikidot.com/kent-hovind

[notorial dissent]

I will wish April all the best, she is gonna need it, and for all the good it will probably do, I would suspect she is brunt toast at this point appeal or no appeal. She might get some mitigation depending on how generous they are feeling, but I doubt it. If Peymon went with a for real lawyer, which I think he routinely does when he gets in tax trouble, I suspect he will do his usual and try for a regular tax court defense, for all the good it will likely do. It looked to me like they had him/them dead to rights and I can't imagine what they could come up with as an excuse at this point since they should be down to procedure and law. I just have a real problem trying to work up/find any kind of sympathy for him/them. He is a tax scammer and more importantly a sucker scammer(his students) so sympathy is in real short to really non-existent supply here.

[wserra]

Kent Hovind was represented by a Peter Gibbons in one of Hovind's cases in U.S. Tax Court.

Right. He also represented Dave Champion, one of the most obnoxious TPs of all time. He hasn't been very active over the last several years, though, at least not in federal courts. A random sampling of his cases show that many of them (like Champion's) are govt petitions to enforce an IRS summons.

And there is nothing new in either Mottahedeh docket. April's opening brief was due four days ago.

[wserra]

Payme: December 29 came and went. No Ninth Circuit brief or application.

April: Peter Gibbons has actually appeared. Pending application to extend to March 22.

[The Observer]

Payme: December 29 came and went. No Ninth Circuit brief or application.

April: Peter Gibbons has actually appeared. Pending application to extend to March 22.

I wonder if Mottahedeh and McFarland have had a strong disagreement about how this case will be presented to the Circuit. Either over whether McFarland will present Peymon's nonsensical theories on why he is not liable for taxes, or, as it is more likely, if he will get paid.

And anyone wanna establish the odds of Gibbons convincing April to drop her appeal before March 29th while she is ahead (as much as she can be at this point)?

[wserra]

In an application filed on January 4, Mottahedeh claims that Peter Gibbons has agreed to represent him as well as his wife. As of today, over a week later, no appearance from Gibbons. The Ninth gave him until January 19 for either a pro se brief or a lawyer's appearance.

[JamesVincent]

In an application filed on January 4, Mottahedeh claims that Peter Gibbons has agreed to represent him as well as his wife. As of today, over a week later, no appearance from Gibbons. The Ninth gave him until January 19 for either a pro se brief or a lawyer's appearance.

It get tossed if either doesn't happen?

[The Observer]

And if it does get tossed, I think that is what Peymon wants to happen. This way he can manipulate his marks into believing that the 9th did not give him the time needed to prepare his utterly devastating appeal that would have certainly destroyed the tax system in this country time-wasting appeal.

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Where, oh, where is Paymon? Hasn't been around here for 7 months.

Will the poor guy (tax liens and all) finally give up? Maybe figure out there's more money in spouting sov-cit garbage and idiocy than old-school TP nonsense and rubbish? TPs are so yesterday.

Peymon and PH are about the last non-dead TPs who haven't. Excepting (almost dead) Ed Brown, who's never figured anything out. Ask Elaine. Who apparently has.

Section 61? I was waiting for a cite to the goofy tax "wisdom" of Larken Rose from 20 years ago. Very '90s.

C'mon man, ya gotta go with currently cool gibberish. Get with the sov-cit version of gibberish. Modern and up-to-date gibberish. Better gibberish. Just the bestest gibberish. It's where the money is.

There may be a new gibberish sucker born every minute, but they're faddish and fickle. Especially when their leaders, gurus and other miscellaneous gibberish followers go to federal prison over decades, like Ed and Larken and hundreds of others.

[The Observer]

There may be a new gibberish sucker born every minute, but they're faddish and fickle. Especially when their leaders, gurus and other miscellaneous gibberish followers go to federal prison over decades, like Ed and Larken and hundreds of others.

I would have to agree and it took about 20 years or so of consistent enforcement, prosecution and sentencing to show most of the followers that the detax gurus simply didn't know what they were talking about. Almost all of the gurus knew ahead of time that this stuff didn't really work, but they were counting on the government being weak, unorganized and ineffectual at coming after them. And that was based on the government letting their guard down after the protest movement in the late 60's and early 70's was squashed. It took the government about 10 years to realize that this stuff was popping up again and growing in magnitude which gave the new crop of gurus the motivation and time to start milking the dupes out there.

If there was no money to be made off scamming people into buying a detax package, the gurus would have never emerged in the first place. Yes, genuine idiots like Ed Brown would have still appeared and gone down in flames, but I suspect Peymon would be off hawking Herbalife, Amway or some MLM scam rather than deciding to become the sacrificial lamb for the detax movement.

The movement is pretty much squashed and out of ideas at this point, but it is still a burning ember in the ashes. Someone will eventually start making noise again and seeing how much of their garbage sticks as they fling it out. If the government sits on their thumbs again, we will see the same thing happening again.

[wserra]

I just ran across the latest Peymon Mottahedeh shameless self-promotion. It appears on a site that calls itself "Fearless Nation", which claims that "BigTech just purged the president of the United States and untold numbers of creators and users. We are working around the clock to keep up". Well, it appears that they are, but not the way they meant.

After watching the first couple of minutes of Mottahedeh bullshit, I posted the following in the "Comments" section:

Anyone who wishes to learn the truth about Peymon Mottahedeh should pay a visit to [this thread]. The account is complete with documentary proof - which is conspicuously absent from Mottahedeh's rants.

I checked back in a couple of hours - gone. I posted it again, and checked back in ten minutes - gone again. It seems as though "Fearless Nation" is something of a misnomer. Moreover, it's perfectly OK for them to "purge ... creators and users", just not for other people.

I know I've said it before, but I never cease to chuckle at how these intrepid crusaders against censoring tyranny feel perfectly free to censor, while we govt shills allow anyone who wishes to post here. Including, of course, Mottahedeh himself.