Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
Some of you will know me from Hoaxtead as Naqsej. I'm a lawyer, specialising in criminal procedure. So here is the real deal on private prosecutions. Any citizen can lay an information and apply for a summons or warrant. They have to comply with the rules in Crim. Proc. Rule 7 and set out the information as prescribed, with a summary of the evidence. If they want a warrant they have to say why; normally it should be a summons. That goes to a JP, district judge or justices' legal adviser. It's almost always considered without a hearing, on the papers. However if the matter falls within the Special Jurisdiction of the Chief Magistrate, she will either consider it herself, or assign it to a district judge of her choice (Practice Direction XIII). This application does so fall, as it concerns government and Parliament. That means any justices' legal adviser getting it in the Duty Mailbox will send it to the Chief Magistrate's Office, and you can see in one of Mr Waugh's posts that he received that very piece of advice.
Judge Arbuthnot or delegate will consider it and either refuse the application or issue a summons. The test is quite low - does the application allege an offence which is in the jurisdiction and in time. Is it vexatious or an abuse of process? Does it ask the court to determine matters beyond its competence, e.g. questions of religious doctrine, or matters properly within the competence of Parliament. Even on that test it's clear the prosecutor has a struggle on his hands. If the judge refuses to issue the summons, that's it. The defendant won't even be troubled with the application, it's all done in the back office. There are occasionally hearings - Boris Johnson's for example, but the reason for this process is to avoid troubling alleged defendants needlessly when there are clearly no grounds. Oh yes, and the rules require the prosecutor to identify themselves, not give a fake ID.
If (a big If here) the judge issues the summons (there are patently no grounds for a warrant), the 1st hearing is in the magistrates Court, not straight to the Crown Court as Mr Waugh thinks.
Judge Arbuthnot or delegate will consider it and either refuse the application or issue a summons. The test is quite low - does the application allege an offence which is in the jurisdiction and in time. Is it vexatious or an abuse of process? Does it ask the court to determine matters beyond its competence, e.g. questions of religious doctrine, or matters properly within the competence of Parliament. Even on that test it's clear the prosecutor has a struggle on his hands. If the judge refuses to issue the summons, that's it. The defendant won't even be troubled with the application, it's all done in the back office. There are occasionally hearings - Boris Johnson's for example, but the reason for this process is to avoid troubling alleged defendants needlessly when there are clearly no grounds. Oh yes, and the rules require the prosecutor to identify themselves, not give a fake ID.
If (a big If here) the judge issues the summons (there are patently no grounds for a warrant), the 1st hearing is in the magistrates Court, not straight to the Crown Court as Mr Waugh thinks.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
So good to know we live in a country free from fraudulent mortgages, as the above have never happened.5. The statutory remedy to get rid of fraudulent mortgages.
7. The statutory remedy for cancelling fraudulent mortgages in the charges register.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
If the live broadcast with Matt Hancock on Good Morning Britain today is anything to go by, I have a feeling that he is still wandering around unarrested. You would have thought that Piers Morgan would have mentioned it, even if only in passing.
I'll guess we'll find out more about his arrest as he is scheduled to give the daily Downing Street COVID press briefing at 5pm.
I'll guess we'll find out more about his arrest as he is scheduled to give the daily Downing Street COVID press briefing at 5pm.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
Ah, but do you really believe that Johnson is self-isolating? He's under house arrest, I tell you, and the MSM are covering it up!
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
I can't edit my previous comment but some of you may have noticed my deliberate mistake (ho ho) 'questionablee' which should of course have been 'questionable'. Speargrass, thanks for the information about private individuals bringing a case. Well I've learned something about the legal process.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
This isn't directly to do with this thread and I'm fearful to incur the dreaded ire of Gregg, but if there are some legal eagles lurking here I was wondering - do budding barristers still have to eat the twelve dinners in the Inns of Court in order to qualify for the Bar these days?
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
Has he been censoring the comments on his Facebook? None of his "arrest Matt Hancock" posts have any responses later than a day ago.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
He does like to delete anything not on message and isn’t averse to editing his own posts to have the “facts” in line with events as they unfold afterwards. For a man obsessed with 1984 it’s rather apt.
But, just like the current Mrs. exiledscouser (who should not be allowed anywhere with a loaded paint brush) he’s painted himself into a difficult corner here, one he can’t delete or amend his way out from.
Another world-class shallow excuse coming up - will the flock finally smell a rat?
Stay tuned!
But, just like the current Mrs. exiledscouser (who should not be allowed anywhere with a loaded paint brush) he’s painted himself into a difficult corner here, one he can’t delete or amend his way out from.
Another world-class shallow excuse coming up - will the flock finally smell a rat?
Stay tuned!
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
As someone who is definitely not a Barrister, I think this nearly 10 year old article helps explain it:CrankyBoomer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:29 pm This isn't directly to do with this thread and I'm fearful to incur the dreaded ire of Gregg, but if there are some legal eagles lurking here I was wondering - do budding barristers still have to eat the twelve dinners in the Inns of Court in order to qualify for the Bar these days?
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
I guess they won't. His adoring flock seem to have completely let him off on the mortgage thing. You'd think that would have shaken their faith, after believing they'd get a free house and no longer have to pay their mortgage. My guess is that MofB will lie low on this issue until some change or reshuffle in government happens, then pop up crowing.exiledscouser wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:41 pmAnother world-class shallow excuse coming up - will the flock finally smell a rat?
Meanwhile a couple of doubting comments have appeared, for the moment anyway ..
Mark Kettlestring
What's next step when police don't arrest Wankcock ????
Nicole Mcleod
How long after an arrest warrant issued will this happen
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
A few doubters on his other Facebook profile ("The Bernician") ...
Gary Lee Davidson
he was on good morning britain earlier..... what's going on?.
Dan Greig
Gary Lee Davidson What's going on is that this is the latest pack of lies from O'Bonkers to get some attention..
Gary Lee Davidson
seems that way now.
Dan Greig
Dagmar Oldcorn Still not happened. Just like everything O'Bonkers says..
Mike Evans
Just how dumb are you people? Its an attention seeking scam,. No Matt Hancock is not going to get arrested. Just morons the lot of you.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
Watching Matt Hancock's briefing live. He doesn't appear to be making sideways glances to see if he's about to be arrested.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
Obvs innit!AnOwlCalledSage wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:06 pm Watching Matt Hancock's briefing live. He doesn't appear to be making sideways glances to see if he's about to be arrested.
Ee’s out on a tag.
He was in and out of nick in just 30 mins, now forever known as Hancock’s Half Hour.
I know. Coat time.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
Just checking in, been scanning the news all day for this arrest. Any updates, you day is essential over, isn't it? Or should I wait a few more hours for that surprise Midnight Raid?
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
Are you looking for a punch up the bracket?exiledscouser wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:52 pmObvs innit!AnOwlCalledSage wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:06 pm Watching Matt Hancock's briefing live. He doesn't appear to be making sideways glances to see if he's about to be arrested.
Ee’s out on a tag.
He was in and out of nick in just 30 mins, now forever known as Hancock’s Half Hour.
I know. Coat time.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
Well, I know the MSM would be covering it up just like they have with previous attempts to bring private prosecutions against senior politicians.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... exit-claim
But surely the conspirasphere should be ablaze? I mean I can see where Waugh might be too busy in meetings with his top legal team to update his various outlets, but surely citizen journalists must have been keeping a close watch, and somebody must know something?
It's a puzzler, and no mistake.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... exit-claim
But surely the conspirasphere should be ablaze? I mean I can see where Waugh might be too busy in meetings with his top legal team to update his various outlets, but surely citizen journalists must have been keeping a close watch, and somebody must know something?
It's a puzzler, and no mistake.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
By my reckoning it's about 10 minutes into the next day, any news of this arrest. I have been patiently waiting, and nothing yet. It certainly couldn't be that MoB isn't telling the truth, it must be some perfectly reasonable and obvious explanation we've all missed, going to have to wait for MoB to tell us what that is, cuz it's not obvious to me, but I'm sure it'll be all so simple once he tells us what it is.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
CrankyBoomer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:29 pm This isn't directly to do with this thread and I'm fearful to incur the dreaded ire of Gregg, but if there are some legal eagles lurking here I was wondering - do budding barristers still have to eat the twelve dinners in the Inns of Court in order to qualify for the Bar these days?
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
The Guardian's political sketch writer takes the piss about Hancock's Monday.
You'd have thought if Hancock had suffered the indignity of an arrest to boot, it might have got a mention.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2 ... ipping-boyLoser’s loser Matt Hancock fulfils his role as GMB whipping boy
You'd have thought if Hancock had suffered the indignity of an arrest to boot, it might have got a mention.
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Re: Michael (of Bernicia) Waugh, UK bankster-buster
Shouldn't we be?Gregg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:17 amCrankyBoomer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:29 pm This isn't directly to do with this thread and I'm fearful to incur the dreaded ire of Gregg, but if there are some legal eagles lurking here I was wondering - do budding barristers still have to eat the twelve dinners in the Inns of Court in order to qualify for the Bar these days?
The "dreaded ire of Gregg?"
Y'all are really afraid of me?
How quaint.
I mean, you have a crack team of airborne assault dachshunds, who can parachute in without warning to punish miscreants.