Edward William Ellis, Common Law QC

[aesmith]

I agree, normal timescale would mean probate should have been granted over two years ago. Good old EWE.

[longdog]

So he's completely ignored the courts telling him to knock it off except in this case where he inexplicably decided to do as he was told?

You don't even need to be a lawyer to get a grant of probate. I'm not and I have.

He screwed it up is the far more likely explanation. Most likely by way of a probate court not accepting incoherent gibberish fraud.

[longdog]

There's a Coronation Oath Enforcement Authority now? About bloody time, those monarchs have had it too good for too long.

I never get tired of pointing out to the loonies that the coronation oath is no more enforceable than wedding vows. As a matter of fact it's significantly less enforceable as HM the Q (gawd bless 'er) is quite literally above the law when it comes to this sort of thing.

[ArthurWankspittle]

You don't even need to be a lawyer to get a grant of probate. I'm not and I have.

Me too.

He screwed it up is the far more likely explanation. Most likely by way of a probate court not accepting incoherent gibberish fraud.

Isn't this the case where the Trust Will is involved? So he could be trying to apply the will directions, which may not be valid, while trying to avoid paying the mortgage, which is valid, while trying to get probate.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

My understanding is that Neelu's sister, on finding out her cancer prognosis was terminal, attempted to get her house put into a family trust so that Neelu and EWE could use it to fund their anti-Satan and conspiracy fraud crusades without paying inheritance tax.

EWE has hinted in a previous post that the husband and her two other siblings may have intervened. He didn't elaborate on how, but it was alongside a comment that his attempt at probate was rejected. Or "probate rejection fraud". I suspect that whatever he drew up for her was not legal.

Not withstanding that, even if it was successful, Neelu is never going to get another mortgage so it could be that the bank stepped in asserting a prior claim on the asset.

Her will doesn't appear to have been published on the .gov probate search site so we are left guessing for now.

[aesmith]

A trust might duck inheritance tax, but it sounds like the estate was below the threshold anyway. But surely it wouldn't absolve them from paying the mortgage. In any case they wouldn't be able to change its ownership without the lender's agreement. I think.

[notorial dissent]

Is it just me, or does it come across that Neelu's entire family is just bugsh** nuts?????

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Is it just me, or does it come across that Neelu's entire family is just bugsh** nuts?????

Her non-dead siblings appear to be sound. And her son just likes trying to avoid bus lane fines - it's a hobby I guess!

[longdog]

But surely it wouldn't absolve them from paying the mortgage. In any case they wouldn't be able to change its ownership without the lender's agreement. I think.

I'm 100% sure you're right. Absent any clause in the agreement to the contrary the borrower reaching ambient temperature has no effect on the lender's charge over the property. You can only bequeath that which you own so if you only effectively own 40% of the house that's all you can leave to your insane sister.

[SpearGrass]

The safest assumption with EWE is that anything he does in the realms of the law is wrong. Not just a slip or error, as any lawyer makes from time to time, but as far from arguable as Pluto is from the Sun. A real-world trust can be an effective protection from inheritance tax, but I think this is a pseudolegal trust which has no impact on the real world. Trusts are doing the rounds at the moment as Elizabeth Nolson and her imaginary friend "Minister Emoven" are active, especially - for some reason - in South Wales.

[aesmith]

And her son just likes trying to avoid bus lane fines

I think her son might have been the one involved in the "wrong size number plate fraud", based on the fact that she's referred to his motorcycle at some point and some motorcyclist like to fit undersized number plates. Presumably because they don't get enough tickets from speeding or noisy exhausts.

[YiamCross]

Not just a slip or error, as any every lawyer makes from time to all the time, but as far from arguable as Pluto is from the Sun.

Don't talk to me about bloody lawyers cocking up with monotonous regularity over simple things, and I don't just mean your average jobbing generalist solicitors but eminent specialist partners in large multi national firms. Grrrrr. I sorted it myself in the end which was very stressful but supremely gratifying. Not a story for the interwebs though.

Trusts are doing the rounds at the moment as Elizabeth Nolson and her imaginary friend "Minister Emoven" are active, especially - for some reason - in South Wales.

This woman is one of the most dangerous of the breed in my opinion. She appears to be regularly conning people on a large scale with some success over the years and is very good at keeping her scams under the radar though she can't stop broadcasting her incoherent babblings all over FB. The business side, however, is done under the cloak of "non-disclosure agreements" and using private meetings, zoom sessions and a small group of trusted aids. Who frequently screw her over and make off with a lot of the money which gives rise to some particularly vehement posts but without enough detail to really get to the meat of what's happened. One day I hope all will be brought to the light but so far she seems to lead a charmed life, apart from a short stretch in a Greek prison. Hence, I assume, the retreat to the mountains of Wales.

[longdog]

Hence, I assume, the retreat to the mountains of Wales.

That may well be a combination of Brexit + refusal to fill in the forms that the Greek authorities required to stay + her conviction. I can't imagine the bubbles were too upset at losing her.

[notorial dissent]

But surely it wouldn't absolve them from paying the mortgage. In any case they wouldn't be able to change its ownership without the lender's agreement. I think.

I'm 100% sure you're right. Absent any clause in the agreement to the contrary the borrower reaching ambient temperature has no effect on the lender's charge over the property. You can only bequeath that which you own so if you only effectively own 40% of the house that's all you can leave to your insane sister.

It is/has been my experience that the mortgage survives the borrower since it is against the property regardless of who comes to own it, NOT the borrower. Actually I can't imagine them granting a mortgage that was personal to the borrower.

[longdog]

Actually I can't imagine them granting a mortgage that was personal to the borrower.

I'm not sure that would even meet the definition of a mortgage would it? I suppose an endowment mortgage is the closest in that the charge dies when the borrow does... Sort of... It dies when / if the insurance company pays out and the debt gets fully paid anyway.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Mmm...

On 15th November 2021 a Confidence Collapse got use of the Protection Denial Fraud Appeal for a Legal Action Case Reference against the Equity Lawyer and Mr Cant from the Supreme Court to the Cabinet. They wanted use of Contempt Claim Fraud 2020 000286 Suspended Imprisonment for an Immediate Imprisonment Fraud against the Equity Lawyer. They had no hope.

No details, but it does look like they are mulling over charging him with contempt. Now, as I've pointed out before, he has to be caught red handed since the contempt judge did not include drafting documents as contempt, but he has at least once in the last 3 months appeared to have filed directly on behalf of a "client" and if I remember the 15th November case, both Lee Cant and EWE were referred to the Attorney General for abuse of process, so whilst immediate imprisonment is off the agenda, I don't think that one is over yet.

[aesmith]

The only thing that will stop him is actual time in the slammer. He's ignored everything else up to and including suspended sentences. I reckon even just a week or two might make him realise this is real.

[SpearGrass]

I reckon even just a week or two might make him realise this is real.

I venture to doubt it. The man is clearly mentally ill and that plus his increasing frailty are two significant obstacles to imprisonment. Imprisonment is principally meant to deter the contemnor and I don't think anything short of life imprisonment or execution would do that with EWE.

I think there is more hope of a term of imprisonment knocking some of the delusions out of Cant, however.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

I think there is more hope of a term of imprisonment knocking some of the delusions out of Cant, however.

It would be ironic if it was abuse of process that finally sank Lee Cant

[John Uskglass]

For some reason (Remedy Fraud Denial?) his posting of 31/12/21 doesn't appear on the main page, but can be accessed from the sidebar.

On 17th December 2021, Judge Lethen refused to disclose who had Appeal Jurisdiction. Judge’s Clerk, Mr Subus Miah appeared to have Communication Intent when he wrote his email address and gave it to the Equity Lawyer. On 27th December 2021, a Test Email got a Blocked Message. The circumstances raises Reasonable Suspicions that someone other than Court Officer Mr Miah is responsible for the Blocked Message.

https://equitygovernance.uk/royal-commi ... ge-lethem/

Could be a further indication that the courts are finally getting fed up with him, or perhaps he just got an out of office reply.