Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

[hucknallred]

IIRC, didn't Mrs White pass away some time ago?

She did. Mortgage will have been in both names.
I doubt if affects the validity of the document.

[longdog]

I wouldn't have thought so either but even if it did I would imagine the only person who could challenge it on that basis is the late Mrs White... Which may have one or two practical obstacles.

[aesmith]

She was still with us when the bank started their possession proceedings so as joint owners they would both have been named.
In fact she was still alive when he was first kicked out of the house in 2019, although I presume living elsewhere.

[Footloose52]

If it was a standard mortgage deed then it will have been joint and several liability so the bank would need to name both parties in the action but could proceed for full value against either party.

[aesmith]

Eviction is supposed to be tomorrow. I presume that actually means tomorrow at the earliest, rather then tomorrow or never.

Bob White is with Anthony Badaloo and 20 others
EVICTION PARTY this FRIDAY.
Everyone welcome including bailiffs and police. Fancy dress please or come as you are. I will not be evicted so let's party.
There will be hot, cold and snack foods. Beers, wines, spirits and non alcoholic beverages. Party games, including pin the tail on the party poopers, balloons, party poppers, golf and music of course and much more.
If you fancy opening your eyes please come along and find out what the KRC are about, you won't be disappointed.
Friday 10th June 2022 from 7am to 7pm, 29 Park Road, Sheerness, Kent, ME12 1UY. Be there or watch it online.

[SpearGrass]

Considerate to provide the bailiffs with what they need to schedule the entry.

[longdog]

Never mind schedule entry what about gain entry?

All a bailiff or bogie has to do is turn up with a four pack of cooking lager (one missing, presumed drunk) and say "I'm a friend of Dave". Then they can call the rest of the heavies and let them in through the front door.

Job's a good'un.

[hucknallred]

There was a live stream at around 7:30, HCEO x 2 & locksmith on site. Crabbie has the house decorated with balloons etc.
Tobe Hayden Leigh is there & a couple of others.
Stream ended waiting for the rozzers to arrive.

[hucknallred]

Local rag on it now.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/sheerness/ ... ion-268491

[carobee57]

Apparently the police have left due to lack of resources!

[hucknallred]

Apparently the police have left due to lack of resources!

They didn't leave because they never arrived.
The HCEO said they couldn't come due to lack of resources.

The consensus amongst followers of the case is that this was a pre planned tactic.

They will now come back without notice when he isn't having a party.

[carobee57]

Of course! Good plan. Why hasn't he been arrested for residential squatting, surely that would be an easy option?

[longdog]

Unless things have changed dramatically since the last time I was on The Isle of Sh**pey <spit> the words 'police' and 'resources' don't really belong in the same sentence except on Friday and Saturday night. The number of rozzers needed to deal with something like this is way beyond what the island could supply without pre-booking and even then they'd probably be bussed from the civilised mainland.

I doubt the HCEOs would be ignorant of reality so I'll go with pre-planned until demonstrated otherwise.

[John Uskglass]

Why hasn't he been arrested for residential squatting

IANAL, but as I understand it, his occupation of the property remains lawful until the writ is executed?

[aesmith]

Why hasn't he been arrested for residential squatting

IANAL, but as I understand it, his occupation of the property remains lawful until the writ is executed?

But surely the writ was executed when he was first evicted. Now he's in occupation only because he made forced entry. I don't really understand why it's different from Rehka Patel.

[SpearGrass]

Residential trespass is only a crime if it ousts:

(a) a displaced residential occupier of the premises; or

(b) an individual who is a protected intending occupier of the premises.

And as there is no legal occupier of the premises, just White, trespassing isn't an offence. Patel's case was before my time but I think someone had bought the place hadn't they? They would be a proteced intending occupier, so an offence even if they haven't moved in. A bank doesn't qualify.

[carobee57]

That does seem odd, if the bank have gone to all the trouble of taking him to court and getting him out, why should he be allowed to stay there? I'm sure I saw a video of Anthony badaloo being arrested for residential squatting after he went back into his house after repossession

[aesmith]

So after they get him out, again, he can break back in perfectly legally, and become legal occupier again? Repeat ad infinitum. Or does his status change in some way after this second time round?

[AnOwlCalledSage]

So after they get him out, again, he can break back in perfectly legally, and become legal occupier again? Repeat ad infinitum. Or does his status change in some way after this second time round?

Unless it's changed since I knew a few London squatters in the days of raves, I think the only offence would be if he causes actual damage to re-enter the property, which is why it is down to the repossesser to fully secure it. Proving it was him would be difficult without something like CCTV or onsite security, as he could always argue that someone else damaged the doors/windows and he just took advantage of that fact. That excuse worked for the people I knew!

[John Uskglass]

So after they get him out, again, he can break back in perfectly legally, and become legal occupier again?

If I was the bank, I'd be seeking an injunction to prevent him from doing that, putting a security guard on site and arranging a quick sale so there's a protected intended occupier.