Robert 'Crab Bait' White consents to losing his houses

[aesmith]

Anyone near enough to Sheerness to have a quick look at Casa Crab, see if anything's happening while he's in the big hoose?

Wonder what this is about as well, some brilliant wheeze no doubt. Note the directors and their dates of appointment. There's also a "DREW KENT LIMITED" and "DREW COOPER KENT LTD" registered at the same time and with the same registered address.

https://prnt.sc/oZwaalwLLADh

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Anyone near enough to Sheerness to have a quick look at Casa Crab, see if anything's happening while he's in the big hoose?

Wonder what this is about as well, some brilliant wheeze no doubt. Note the directors and their dates of appointment. There's also a "DREW KENT LIMITED" and "DREW COOPER KENT LTD" registered at the same time and with the same registered address.

https://prnt.sc/oZwaalwLLADh

Isn't he still an undischarged bankrupt? I know that Companies House take applications at face value and probably haven't done any checks but don't think he's allowed to do that.

Edit: Yep. Check the insolvency register. He's still an undischarged bankrupt as of today. And Irene died in June 2019. I'll need to check which law it is and the penalties but it does appear, unsurprisingly, that it is illegal for him to have done this.

An email may or may not have been sent to Companies House!

[rosy]

Crabbie thinking he doesn't need to follow the law? Imagine my surprise.

[aesmith]

It seems that to be appointed as a director he would need the court's permission. Do we think he has that?

1.3 Acting as a company director
You need the permission of the court to act as a company director. This includes directly or indirectly, taking part in, or having a concern in the promotion, formation or management of a limited company.

Acting as a director or managing a company when bankrupt is a criminal offence.

This also applies to membership of a Limited Liability Partnership.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ptcy-order

[AnOwlCalledSage]

It seems that to be appointed as a director he would need the court's permission. Do we think he has that?

To be honest, Crabbie's willingness to act in a criminal manner is a matter of public record. It's appointing his dead wife as a director that has made me most!

[aesmith]

Do we know who Drew Kent is?

[John Uskglass]

Do we know who Drew Kent is?

Fairly certain he's the jet washing bloke who was using White's address for his business.
https://www.yell.com/biz/jet-washing-s ... -10192108/

https://www.jetwashingsolutionskent.co.uk/

[aesmith]

Surely not another undisclosed source of income for Mr W?

[hucknallred]

For completeness the CH links:

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/13957104
https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/13956983
https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/13958189

Not forgetting he is already listed as a director of the company that started his downfall, those pesky business rates..
https://find-and-update.company-informa ... 1/officers

These will be nothing more than a batshit theory they're following to attempt to get a free house.
See also Tunkashilla Ltd in the Rekha Patel thread.

[aesmith]

Not forgetting he is already listed as a director of the company that started his downfall, those pesky business rates..
https://find-and-update.company-informa ... 1/officers

I don't think that last one counts, dissolved in 2012.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Companies House enquiries has passed the query up the chain and promised me an answer in the next 5 working days

I was intrigued to see the incorporation of this company on 5/3/2022.

ROBERT ARTHUR WHITE LTD
Company number 13957104
Registered office address
29 Park Road, Sheerness, Kent, England, ME12 1UY
Company status
Active
Company type
Private limited Company
Incorporated on
5 March 2022

I didn't think that undischarged bankrupts were allowed to start companies, let alone appoint themselves as director.

Insolvency Case Details

Case Name ROBERT WHITE
Court County Court at Medway
Type Bankruptcy
Number 0000111
Case Year 2016
Order Date 04 July 2017
Status Discharge Suspended Indefinitely See Footnote
Case Description Robert White Occupation Unknown of 29 Park Road, S heerness, Kent ME12 1UY

Details extracted on 22/7/2022

https://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov.uk ... CaseType=B

Moreover his wife Irene is dead. Is a company allowed to have dead directors? She died in June 2019.

Regards

[rosy]

I may have - quite inadvertently - filled in a questionnaire found at https://www.gov.uk/report-a-disqualified-director

If anyone else were to do that, they would probably need to include this link in the 'other information' box.

https://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov.uk ... CaseType=B

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Nothing wrong with a belt and braces approach

ROBERT WHITE

ROBERT ARTHUR WHITE LTD - 13957104

Thank you for your email regarding the above director and their directorship, which has been forwarded to our department as we deal with bankruptcy and disqualification queries.

If I could begin by explaining the role of our department at Companies House (CH) and how our processes work.

CH is primarily a registry of company information and we currently have limited investigative powers. Under current legislation it is an offence, without leave of the Court, for a person who is an undischarged bankrupt to be an officer of any company or LLP in any way, whether directly or indirectly, to be concerned or take part in the promotion, formation or management of any company or Limited Liability Partnership (LLP).

Once an officer of a company is subject to bankruptcy, they would be made aware that they cannot be a director.

When we receive details of a director that is subject to bankruptcy, it is our responsibility to seek compliance from those officers appointed to any active companies registered with us, to terminate these appointments. Should they not comply, we would refer any issues to the Insolvency Service (INSS) as they have investigative authority.

We have processes in place to identify if a director becomes subject to bankruptcy. We also have processes in place to prevent an undischarged bankrupt from incorporating/restoring a company.

It appears that in this case the incorporation of the company should have been rejected and there was an error in not doing so.

I can confirm that this matter has been referred to the INSS. You concerns will also be forwarded on to the relevant department.

Should you also choose to raise a complaint, please refer to the links below:

Complain about someone who's bankrupt - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

For further guidance about reporting misconduct by companies or directors to the Insolvency Service.  Please follow this link:- https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... cy-service

With regard to your comments on the co-director, this has been referred to the relevant department within CH to look into.

Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.

Yours sincerely

[John Uskglass]

It does strike me that

Bankrupt Convict registers company with DEAD WIFE as Director

might be a story the Daily Mail would love, especially as White has graced their pages before.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

Has anyone got a link to something reporting Crabbie's jail sentence?

I've been looking but can't find anything online.

[rosy]

I had a reply from the Insolvency Service (which is not the organisation I contacted; I emailed Companies House) saying there isn't enough evidence for them to take any action.

Having a bankrupt set up a company with his deceased wife as a director is AOK with the Insolvency Service.

[longdog]

I had a reply from the Insolvency Service (which is not the organisation I contacted; I emailed Companies House) saying there isn't enough evidence for them to take any action.

Having a bankrupt set up a company with his deceased wife as a director is AOK with the Insolvency Service.

I would've thought that companies house and the insolvency service would look at it different ways. Companies house because he registered his dead wife while bankrupt and the IS because he's a bankrupt who registered a company.

It's a bit late for me to doo mi oan reesertch but I would've thought they were two different offences. One under company law and one under bankruptcy law.

[carobee57]

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-price ... 56be3fe8#/
This is the latest entry on rightmove says its early July 2022. I'm sure the local residents will be happy when this eyesore has been sold

[hucknallred]

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-price ... 56be3fe8#/
This is the latest entry on rightmove says its early July 2022. I'm sure the local residents will be happy when this eyesore has been sold

That's just saying the Land Registry sold prices were last updated with data from July.
I'm pretty sure the images are from after his previous eviction when it was listed. He broke back in shortly after.

I've been keeping an eye out & still no active listing.

If he's been good he'll be out of the slammer soon, breaking back in may see him return to do the remainder of his sentence.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

If he's been good he'll be out of the slammer soon, breaking back in may see him return to do the remainder of his sentence.

I appreciate that he has "vanished" which coincides with the sentence people have posted, I've still not been able to find any actual reports. It could just be a consequence of Robert and White being common names but I was kind of assuming it would at least get a line in the Southend/Essex/Sheerness press.