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Robert Menard’s Got a New Book Out!

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Or so Menard says. Writing a book takes work, talking about writing a book just takes up some time.

After years of stagnation he was invited to participate in something. Not much, a fringe podcast (if podcast is the right word, the internet is largely a mystery to me), but beggars can’t be choosers and I doubt he gets many offers nowadays. It was a video presentation/seminar called Red Pill Day 2023.

https://red-pill-day.live/red-pill-day/ ... 7SgUYTDLPM

This was held on September 11th but I missed it because Menard only posted it on his You Tube page yesterday. A dozen speakers with an hour each. Sounds more like a military endurance test than the promised “fun” day of “education, and entertainment, cool music, lots of laughs, and legendary Freedom Fighters from within the Truth movement”. Menard’s importance in the Truth Movement is illustrated by his position on the speakers roster, at the tail end, second to last, after ten dreary exhausting hours of New Age babble and obscure issues such as this;
Debbie Hicks is the Founder of Keep-it-Cash. Debbie has spent the past few years campaigning tirelessly and travelling the length and breadth of the country with one goal in mind: keeping physical cash. Obviously the Powers that BE wish to do away with cash because it is largely untraceable as a medium of exchange, and because it reveals some truths about the SYSTEM.
I’d never heard of Red Pill Day or, apart from Menard, any of its speakers. Not surprising since, apart from Rob, they are almost all British. One participant of note, Gareth Icke, is the son of David (Lizard Queen) Icke. He has a website, ikonic.com, where he imparts the collected wisdom of his father, his brother and himself. I tried to take a look at it but, like porn sites, you have to join up and pay a fee before being allowed entry. The rest of the speakers seem pretty random, some guy in Mexico who has the formula for paradise on earth, some callow youths with the vague moniker “Students Against Tyranny” making the usual student protests, a woman flogging a;
self-healing path, including those she has chosen to train in, EFT/Matrix Reimprinting and SOMA breathwork”, another woman who self-identifies as an “Activist, healer, uplifter, freedom lover and peaceful warrior.
So the usual collection of New Age grifters. Regardless of their various disciplines one passion binds them together, a common goal succinctly expressed in the opening page advertising the seminar;

"Whatever you do – donate!"

So where does Menard fit in this pantheon of ageing hippies?
Located “in” Canada, Rob will always be considered an absolute legend, and one of the founding fathers of the modern day movement.

The maker of Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception, Rob Menard’s charisma and presentation style has kept many an audience spell bound, and has inspired numerous other researchers to follow in his footsteps.

Rob always delivers and this interview was no different. Check out the new findings he reveals and place an order for his new book by mailing him your shipping details to: robertmenard63@gmail.com. Rob will then send you payment details. Cost 100 CAD (Canadian Dollars). Mention the words “RED PILL” and Rob will send you a bonus gift of pdfs.
Note the possibly unintended harsh reality of that first sentence;
Anyone with more than ten years experience in the truth movement will recognize the name Robert Arthur Menard.
Why more than 10 years? Because Rob, once a giant in the Canadian sovereign movement, was totally discredited by fleeing from his own trial where he was defending himself from the charge of impersonating a peace officer. For years one of his main claims to fame and credibility had been his position that anyone, any bozo on the street, could be a peace officer just by following his magic formula. This somehow made you the equal of the regular police forces with the same right to arrest, detention, and carrying a gun. But when he was given the chance to prove this position in an actual criminal trial he ran and an arrest warrant was issued. The police didn’t bother hunting him down and serving it, not because of fear he was right but because he was so inconsequential he wasn’t worth the expense and trouble of pursuing. This demolished his standing in the sovereign world. I can only assume that the sovereign world itself has been so demolished that he was asked to participate in this seminar because there are so few of them left.
Check out the new findings he reveals and place an order for his new book by mailing him your shipping details to: robertmenard63@gmail.com.
New book? Rob exhausted his repertoire of new ideas decades ago. This one will just be yet another cut and paste of his old writings, mostly from the 1990’s and early 2000’s when he was riding high on a wave of sovereign bullshit. He was the master of something for nothing schemes based on his idiosyncratic interpretation of law and sovereign rights. All, of course, failed completely.

Being a masochist with absolutely nothing in my life but a bleak future of declining capacity and death I chose to waste part of my diminishing lifespan on listening to his presentation. He should feel flattered. He gave me nothing in return. It was just nonsense he’s been constantly expounding since the 1990’s. His big one, for this seminar at least, is that the United Nations gives you the right to life. This includes the right to eat, an absolute right. So, if you go to a restaurant you have this UN sanctioned right to be fed there. Unfortunately if you have no money, you can’t pay the bill however the restaurant isn’t obliged to feed you without payment. How do you cut the Gordian knot? The seminar hosts were puzzled by this conundrum but veteran Menard followers know exactly where this is going, Menard’s Bills of Exchange Act dine-and-dash fantasy. In the Menardian world there are different existing types of money, cash, cheques but Rob, breaking these Illuminati shackles had, back when we were all a quarter of a century younger, invented a new one, the Consumer Note. He went through exactly the same spiel in this presentation that he used to give way back when the idea was new and shiny. Parsed down from all the legalistic bullshit that Rob had made up to make this sound at least semi-legitimate it meant you can whip a pen and scrap of paper out of your pocket, write up a ‘Consumer Note’, essentially a 'pay you on the twelfth of never IOU', and you’re done. Just put the words “Consumer Note” at the top, write the amount you’re paying in the middle and sign on the bottom. Bill paid! Don’t forget to leave a generous tip! In Menard’s world, as he explained it, the transaction doesn’t follow the money, the money follows the transaction so you can personally create money as needed. Dental work! Massages (no, not that kind)! Groceries!! You can comfortably get through life with nothing but a Bic and notepad! A sovereign parasite’s wet dream!

Apparently that’s why restaurants give you a bill and a pen, so you can turn it into a consumer note as payment. They are legally bound to accept it under federal statute and because, if they refuse to accept it, they are denying you your UN granted right to life. Menard actually said that the restaurant owner in his example could take this consumer note to the bank and deposit it as “perfected money” and it’s the same as if they’d deposited cash. It has to be entirely legitimate because Menard said this process is backed by Jesus Christ himself!

Unfortunately when Menard personally did a trial run here in Vancouver way, way back (I believe at an Earle’s chain restaurant) Jesus Christ was a no-show and he had to deal with the RCMP by himself. In the end he won but only because the trivial amount involved wasn’t worth the bother of going after him. He related this story in his seminar blather but with a much more heroic spin making it a clear victory for his consumer note scheme. However he never tried it again.

This, and other money-for-nothing schemes, were Menard’s bread and butter decades ago when he actually had real standing and influence in the sovereign world and could fill lecture halls with suckers willing to buy in. Unsurprisingly all of his schemes failed leaving his followers holding the bag but Menard, undaunted by a lifetime of total failure, is trying to flog exactly the same fantasies to a new generation. That’s what you’ll get if you cough up $100 for his book, the same garbage his followers were buying in the 1990’s. Menard is so lazy he probably hasn’t even bothered to update it to make it seem currently topical. In fact I doubt that there even is an actual book. In the extremely unlikely event of a sale he’ll just bundle up various scraps from ancient days and ship that off to the purchaser, postage due.

The moderator asked about the book, he seemed eager to get his hands on a copy. Menard said he’s hoping to sell 1,000 hand-made copies at $100 each for start-up money to really get publishing going. He’s going to autograph them and personally “hand-make” wooden covers for them with gold plated and brass accent, corner protectors, and leather bindings, a “really, really nice product”. It’s going to be called “The Living Awaken Loudly”. I realize that makes no sense but that’s what I heard. Menard’s always been extremely ambitious in expounding his massive world changing plans, his vast dreams of empires. It’s the execution of his ideas that causes him problems; he’d have to get out of his chair and do some work.

Then Menard related the reason he’d awakened from his long slumbers and charged back in the fray with this proposed publication. It’s all Donald Netolitzky’s fault!! That’s right our own Quatloosian poster who’s already in deep, deep trouble for arousing the ire of Paraclete Belanger!

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=12384
There are three parts to it. I started writing this book because there’s a guy out here who’s a lawyer for the Alberta Government who has taken it upon himself to be a, to engage in libellous accusations against me and I just got tired and they just so misrepresent the Freeman perspective so I decided to, Part 1, what our actual beliefs actually are because they claim we’re anti-government, we’re not anti-government, we’re pro-good government.


At this point I was getting tired of his voice so I skipped forward to Part 2. This was a litany of golden oldies from a long dead past. A whining rant about how nobody allows Freemen their entirely legitimate legal rights to such sovereign dreams as a right to travel (actually a claimed right not to register vehicles, have valid driver’s licenses or pay car insurance) and the right to a deadbeat heaven by issuing consumer notes.

A digression here. While writing this I actually reverted back to my own salad days of a decade ago, writing about sovereign bullshit on Quatloos while half drunk with a bottle of red wine and music on the headphones. So let’s run with that and explain Menard’s complete sovereign philosophy, all of it, all of his many schemes, in one short song. No detailed rebuttals or scholarly analysis necessary. All you need to do is listen to The Big Rock Candy Mountains by Harry McClintock. Not the bowdlerized version by Burl Ives but the original lyrics as sung by Harry and recorded in 1928;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMAPOQedRxA
In The Big Rock Candy Mountains
There's a land that's fair and bright
Where the handouts grow on bushes
And you sleep out every night
Where the boxcars all are empty
And the sun shines every day
On the birds and the bees and the cigarette trees
The lemonade springs where the bluebird sings
In The Big Rock Candy Mountains

In The Big Rock Candy Mountains
All the cops have wooden legs
And the bulldogs all have rubber teeth
And the hens lay soft-boiled eggs
The farmers' trees are full of fruit
And the barns are full of hay
Oh I'm bound to go where there ain't no snow
Where the rain don't fall, the wind don't blow
In The Big Rock Candy Mountains

In The Big Rock Candy Mountains
You never change your socks
And the little streams of alcohol
Come a-trickling down the rocks
The brakemen have to tip their hats
And the railroad bulls are blind
There's a lake of stew and of whiskey, too
You can paddle all around 'em in a big canoe
In The Big Rock Candy Mountains

In The Big Rock Candy Mountains
The jails are made of tin
And you can walk right out again
As soon as you are in
There ain't no short-handle shovels
No axes, saws or picks
I'm a-goin' to stay where you sleep all day
Where they hung the jerk that invented work
In The Big Rock Candy Mountains
Pretty much Menard’s entire sovereign philosophy in a nutshell, laid out in verse.

After complaining about consumer notes not being accepted (Although Completely Legally Valid!!) he went on a rant about another major bug up his ass, how he’s not allowed to be a lawyer. While he fled in terror from his own trial he yearns to defend others who are having legal problems because they used his worthless garbage. As usual he'd get the publicity while someone else pays the price. But those damned legal societies stop him. You can check it out here;

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=11443&p=245927

Next, part three. How we could govern ourselves using new technology. A real rant this time with liberal use of “fucking” this and “fucking” that. Basically he seems to want to be governed by AI rather than people.

Lastly a plea for book orders. He had at least two converts, the seminar moderators called him an absolute genius and said they were buying copies. They said that anyone who didn’t know Rob should Google him to see how brilliant he was. Let’s hope they find this;

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10492

Particularly page 15 where I document his fleeing from his own trial and an arrest warrant issued.

On November 28th of this year Rob will be sixty. He’s weary of selflessly fighting for all of our freedoms and wants to lay his burdens down. So, after touting his book, he laid out his modest ambitions for the future.
I don’t want to spend all of my time and energy fighting the government and doing stuff like that. I want to have a little workshop set up and make high-end bespoke furniture and take care of my chickens. . . . . I’ve got some really sweet designs for one of a kind coffee tables and matching end tables. I do special serving platters and charcuterie boards and I’ve designed a couple of table lamps, desk lamps that has a battery in it . . . . quality pieces of functional art.
He doesn’t want to pump out thousands of cheap coffee tables, he wants the $10,000 a table wealthy patron market. “I’m at the age where I just want to do art.

And, after thirty-seven minutes, that was it. A frustrated artist simply yearning to express himself in a woodworking workshop.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Burnaby49 wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:07 am Cost 100 CAD (Canadian Dollars).
This is the most perplexing thing of Menard's monetary theory. Why should I send any amount of money, let alone CADs, when Robert has already given us the gift that keeps on spending? I could just send him a signed consumer note, explain that the United Nations supports in its Article 19 that information should be available to all citizens of this planet, advise him to deposit the note, and thank him for sending the book quickly as possible. See, winter is approaching and I need fuel to keep warm. Since Robert is a proponent of consumer notes, he should walk the walk and accept them in lieu of government fiat notes.
Burnaby49 wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:07 am He doesn’t want to pump out thousands of cheap coffee tables, he wants the $10,000 a table wealthy patron market. “I’m at the age where I just want to do art.
I guess the furniture will be of the same quality as his book, so I could send him a $10K consumer note and have even more wood for the fire.
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Unfortunately you apparently don't have the intellectual capability to understand Menard's genius. But you're not alone. I have also struggled with that conundrum and failed to understand why Menard requires payment in cash rather than through the bounty promised by his consumer notes. But, obviously, a financial genius like Menard, the lone man amongst us all who truly understood the correct interpretation and intent of the Bills of Exchange Act, would not require cash because he had no faith in his own scheme. He must have an entirely valid reason we are just unable to comprehend.

It was the same with Peter of England and his WeRe Notes. They too created entirely legal tender but in order to participate you had to pay him in government issued cash. No doubt for the same unexplained technical reasons that require Menard to ask for cash. We just have to accept that some things are too deep for us to follow.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Welp, if he had actually just wanted to whittle away all he had to have done is... just do it. Always amazed to see people who claim they just want to be left alone standing in front of a crowd telling them that they want to be left alone.

As far as making custom furniture goes I just don't see it. I've done it and it requires a lot of positive traits I just don't see Menard having. Having patience, being detail oriented, being meticulous. Probably the most enjoyable and stressful thing I've ever done was making custom pieces. And I imagine the clients he claims to want aren't going to be the type that fall for a bunch of tax crap and won't tolerate excuses. On top of that where would he get the money for the shop? He wants to charge $100 per book, wants to sell 1,000 of them. That's not enough money. Not anymore. Is there even a strong market in Canadaland for things like that?

Menard had one claim to fame, being a grifter. Maybe he should just stick to that.
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And I imagine the clients he claims to want aren't going to be the type that fall for a bunch of tax crap and won't tolerate excuses. On top of that where would he get the money for the shop? He wants to charge $100 per book, wants to sell 1,000 of them. That's not enough money. Not anymore. Is there even a strong market in Canadaland for things like that?
I didn't bother to discuss issues like these in my initial posting because there is absolutely no possibility whatever of any of this happening. The one talent Menard undeniably has is weaving vast daydreams. He was going to start a video game empire; he was going to corner the market on portable hydroponic gardens (to be sold to restaurants to grow their own herbs); an ambitious scheme to build and run a multi-media studio to produce sovereign television and radio programming; organize a major conference involving sovereigns, judges, eminent people from around the world to debate sovereign beliefs. He tried to flog a straight-up scam where he was going to design and build a medical-quality ventilator to save us all during the covid crisis. He had wild dreams of a custom smokehouse business selling cheese and smoked fish by mail. This is the second time around for woodworking. No doubt there are many more just in the past few years I've forgotten. There was one common factor binding all of them. They went only as far as he could take them by sitting with a beer and talking wild fantasies. But once he gets to the point where he'd have to get out of his chair and actually do something he abandons them for his next new pipe dream.

Strong market for his books? There is no market whatever for anything he might write. A few years ago he tried exactly the same thing but without the wooden covers. He claimed to have written a new book which, on examination was just the same as this proposed masterpiece, a grab-bag of sovereign failures he'd written decades ago. Nobody apparently wanted that one either.

I didn't write up the posting that leads this thread because of any belief on my part that Menard was in the throes of authoring and producing a book. I was just updating where he stands now, the tail-end speaker at an obscure video conference of new age daydreamers.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Burnaby49 wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:28 pm Strong market for his books?
I wasn't sure if James was referring to Menard selling his books or selling his artistic furniture. Either way, I can't see people beating a path to his door. Even if he pulled off a miracle and got 100k to build a woodworking shop, he'd just fritter the money away on himself and never get a piece of nice hardwood lumber into his shop, let alone turn out a piece of furniture someone would pay for.
Burnaby49 wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:28 pm A few years ago he tried exactly the same thing but without the wooden covers.
Sounds like the wooden cover is his idea that he can fool the people with "sizzle" over "substance."
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I’m slow on the uptake, it takes me a while to understand the simplest things, but I’ve finally figured out why Menard picked the moronic name ‘The Living Awaken Loudly’ for his new book. A significant point since, as I’ve pointed out, the chances of him actually writing a new book are statistically nil leaving us with nothing but a cryptic title.

As I wrote in my first posting on this thread;
Then Menard related the reason he’d awakened from his long slumbers and charged back in the fray with this proposed publication. It’s all Donald Netolitzky’s fault!! That’s right our own Quatloosian poster who’s already in deep, deep trouble for arousing the ire of Paraclete Belanger!
There are three parts to it. I started writing this book because there’s a guy out here who’s a lawyer for the Alberta Government who has taken it upon himself to be a, to engage in libellous accusations against me and I just got tired and they just so misrepresent the Freeman perspective so I decided to, Part 1, what our actual beliefs actually are because they claim we’re anti-government, we’re not anti-government, we’re pro-good government.
So where, exactly, did Donald “engage in libelous actions against me”? I started checking past topics on the Canadian Sovereign forum to see if there were any clues in past postings and found that the answer was right in front of me. Donald did it, indirectly, right here on Quatloos! On July 15, 2022 he posted this;

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=12324

Regarding a paper he’d written titled The Dead Sleep Quiet: History of the OPCA Phenomenon In Canada – Part 2. So ‘The Dead Sleep Quiet’ was transformed by Menard into ‘The Living Awaken Loudly’ in response to Donald’s hostile personal attacks on Canada’s greatest Freeman. Menard has titled his book in homage to Donald!

Menard obsessively follows Quatloos because we’re about the only website left that bothers to write anything about him so I assume he found out about Donald’s article here, downloaded a copy, and found it riddled with flagrant lies. So what did Donald say that drew forth the Menardian wrath? I’ll run through the paper. On page 6 he wrote;
In contrast, Canadian Freemen-on-the-Land were a social parasite and criminal population who sought a life of “do as I please,” and “take what I want.” The potential scope, activity, and social impact of these two groups is very different. Despite that, Freemen are often conflated as “Sovereign Citizens.” That badly misrepresents the former group’s probable behaviour, risk, and threat characteristics.
And on page 8 he describes Freemen as;

“Predominately marginal social drop-outs and criminals / drug traffickers.”

And the movement as “Dead”

While these comments don’t specifically mention Menard he created the Canadian Freemen-on-the-Land movement and any comments on the movement are effectively comments about him. Then Donald drops the hammer on page 29;
B. Freemen-on-the-Land

The Freeman-on-the-Land movement was the sole creation of street comedian Robert Arthur Menard, though Menard derived his concepts from Canadian Detaxer pseudolaw localized by Eldon Warman. Menard invented Freemanism in the early 2000s, and the movement grew gradually as it spread through politically leftist, anti-globalization, anti-authority, and social activist groups, but, more than anything else, marijuana advocacy and trafficking networks. The predominately criminal Freeman-on-the-Land culture peaked around 2010, and then rapidly declined as its adherents discovered that Freeman pseudolaw was legally ineffective.

The collapse of Freemanism had multiple causes. First, Freeman gurus were confronted with a direct and detailed jurisprudential challenge. Meads was published near the peak of the Freeman-on-the-Land phenomenon. The key Freeman gurus provided no meaningful response. Freeman gurus instead dismissed in-court failures by scolding their rank-and-file customers: they “were doing it wrong,” and should “practice due diligence.” The two primary Freeman authorities, Menard and Dean Clifford, were then arrested. Subsequent criminal court proceedings demonstrated pseudolaw sold by these gurus was ineffective, even in their own hands.

The in-court failures of the two keystone Freeman gurus were aggravated by a little-acknowledged but critical component of the pseudolaw ecosystem: the Quatloos website forums. Quatloos is a US-based international anti-scam community that was acknowledged by Rooke ACJ as an expert information and commentary source on pseudolaw subjects. When Menard and Clifford attempted to sustain their status by second-hand announcements and YouTube videos, Quatloos anti-Freeman activists obtained and published Menard’s and Clifford’s criminal proceedings court documents.Those court filings revealed Menard and Clifford were dismal and incompetent court participants, flailing through multiple ineffective pseudolaw schema, rather than the sophisticated self-educated legal experts they had proclaimed to be. Menard was also “outed” as not practicing his own doctrines. For example, Menard had an Ontario driver’s licence, despite Menard having: 1) taught there was no legal requirement for licences, 2) boasted he sent law enforcement scurrying off when law enforcement demanded such, and 3) claimed a driver’s licence had toxic effects, since it was a contract, created “joinder,” and thereby empowered government and court jurisdiction.

Menard’s remnant credibility evaporated when Menard repeatedly promised money-for-nothing via his “Association of Canadian Consumer Purchasers” [AACP] scheme. Substantial numbers of Canadian Freemen paid Menard AACP subscription and membership fees, but never received their “Menard Card” debit cards, free money, or any other promised benefits.
Unless Part 1 of this paper (never linked on Quatloos) includes more attacks on Menard I’d say that this is pretty thin stuff to get Menard ranting about Donald being a mortal enemy. But Menard is desperate. He needs a Strawman to rail against to somehow show he’s still relevant. Given that he’s essentially forgotten outside of my Quatloos postings and Donald’s papers he has to take what he gets.
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Thanks, but I don’t think so. A number of reasons. First the title, “The Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument Phenomenon” is entirely different. I assume that an associated article would have the same name but numbered as Part 1. Also “The Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument Phenomenon: was published in 2016 while “The Dead Sleep Quiet: History of the OPCA Phenomenon In Canada – Part 2” was published in the spring of 2023, seven years later. Too long a time lag for a two-part paper.

Additionally while both consider the history of the sovereign movement in Canada The Dead Sleep Quiet has a significant amount of overlap with The Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument Phenomenon, not something I’d expect from a second part. The Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument Phenomenon makes no reference to there being a planned but not yet released second part and is a complete work in itself. In any case The Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument Phenomenon (Couldn’t Donald have picked a less unwieldy name?) really says very little about Menard. These comments are the only ones that are in any way critical of him;
Many of Menard’s ideas are clearly taken or derived from other sources, particularly Mary Elizabeth Croft, a.k.a. Mary Elizabeth Wyly. Croft, a resident of Canmore, Alberta, wrote a highly influential text: How I Clobbered Every Bureaucratic Cash-confiscatory Agency Known to Man … a Spiritual Economics Book on $$$ and Remembering Who You Are. Croft is an unusual figure in the OPCA community. While broadly recognized to the present day as an authority in OPCA circles, she does not seem to have taken the typical guru-for-pay career path. Instead, her role is something of a “Karl Marx” to Menard’s “Lenin.”

Menard also appears to have borrowed extensively from Detaxer sources. For example, he adopted Lindsay’s “travelling” arguments as his own. His Croft-derived scheme for opting out of government interaction and jurisdiction has strong and obvious parallels to Sovereign Citizen concepts. Similarly, Menard’s “96 is your fix” money-for-nothing scheme is little more than a redressed version of the Bill Consumer Purchase scam originally promoted by Warman. Menard’s one unique contribution to OPCA pseudolaw is his argument that the secret A4V “Strawman” “birth bond” bank account is reflected in the Charter, section 7 reference to the “security of the person” (that is, “birth bond” of the “Strawman”), despite that provision’s meaning having already been well defined in Canadian jurisprudence.
And, later in the paper
Similarly, the character of the guru has shifted from a quasi professional who shares special expertise 207 to a prophet or revolutionary. Menard’s narrative on how he discovered the deep, concealed secret of the “Strawman” deception illustrates the latter mode. Your Child Or Her Life! Deception and Evil in the Ministry of Children, Family and Community Development describes his revelatory moment of discovery:
I sat down with their Act and I had Black’s Law dictionary on one side and Bouviers on the other. I looked up every single word. It took me three days. When I was done, I was stunned. I said one word “Sonofabitch”. Some of their words do not mean what you think they do. They expand definitions and they use a great deal of deception. It is much like those laser engraved pictures which you can only see if you focus past the image. To see their deception you have to dig past layers of twisty words, but its there.

This account is likely false. Menard most likely obtained his ideas from other US Sovereign Citizen and Canadian OPCA sources.
Not really something that would awaken Menard from his slumbers of past glory days.

I’ve Googled “The Dead Sleep Quiet: History of the OPCA Phenomenon In Canada – Part 1” and, while I got numerous links to Part 2, I found none to a Part 1. So it still remains a mystery.
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Burnaby49 wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:55 am Quatloos anti-Freeman activists...
Hmmmm, that would make you a QuAFA...funny you never mentioned that before now.
Burnaby49 wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:13 pm So it still remains a mystery.
Probably not for long, once Don sees your post. I am sure he will make it available. Whether he will follow Menard's lead and ask for 100 CAD, I don't know. If he does, maybe you can convince him to accept a consumer note.
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I for one hope he keeps this up for a lot longer. Nothing is more enjoyable from the crank brigade as hearing their stories of grandeur and riches on the way.

I do have to wonder the intellectual quality of the person calling this umpteen times loser a genius.

I hope this is his best attempt yet at scamming the uneducated. He will soon tire of this and go back to begging for weed and beer, but in the meantime more comedy gold on the way. Let's hope he posts a picture of his tome. Google photo search is a wonderful tool. :wink:
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Let's hope he posts a picture of his tome.
There will be no picture because, as I've noted, there will be no book. He did some writing over 20 years ago and has been flogging that ever since. His proposed book is nothing more than another rehashing of the failed schemes in his original written works. I've long been of the opinion that Menard is now mentally incapable of actually carrying any of his proposed projects through to a conclusion. I must have made posts on Quatloos of at least a dozen schemes that he's tried to promote since he did his bunny-run from his own trial in 2015. Most were not even sovereign related, he actually enthused about starting real businesses, but they were all just fantasies, dreams he spun but did nothing to realize. This is no different.

Note that when I used 'original' in the above paragraph I didn't mean that any of the ideas he's promoted were original to him. As Donald's paper points out Menard was extremely liberal in stealing his main ideas from other sovereigns, who, in their turn, may have stolen them from someone else. His various publications are really compilations of ideas he's taken from elsewhere. But with 20 years of total failure behind his various schemes the market for Menard's publications is gone and nobody's going to spend $100 for the latest recycling. There's nothing they can't find on the internet for free, a price point Menard can't compete with regardless of whether or not he throws new bespoke wooden covers over his old bankrupt ideas.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Burnaby49 wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:38 pm
Let's hope he posts a picture of his tome.
There will be no picture because, as I've noted, there will be no book. He did some writing over 20 years ago and has been flogging that ever since. His proposed book is nothing more than another rehashing of the failed schemes in his original written works. I've long been of the opinion that Menard is now mentally incapable of actually carrying any of his proposed projects through to a conclusion. I must have made posts on Quatloos of at least a dozen schemes that he's tried to promote since he did his bunny-run from his own trial in 2015. Most were not even sovereign related, he actually enthused about starting real businesses, but they were all just fantasies, dreams he spun but did nothing to realize. This is no different.

Note that when I used 'original' in the above paragraph I didn't mean that any of the ideas he's promoted were original to him. As Donald's paper points out Menard was extremely liberal in stealing his main ideas from other sovereigns, who, in their turn, may have stolen them from someone else. His various publications are really compilations of ideas he's taken from elsewhere. But with 20 years of total failure behind his various schemes the market for Menard's publications is gone and nobody's going to spend $100 for the latest recycling. There's nothing they can't find on the internet for free, a price point Menard can't compete with regardless of whether or not he throws new bespoke wooden covers over his old bankrupt ideas.
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The "Part 1" paper was the article published in 2016:

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... _in_Canada

The reason "Part 2" and "Part 3" came out so close together was a quirk of how law journals tend to have an upper limit on article length, and I'm way, WAY too longwinded.

So Part 2 and Part 3 were originally one article, and that got too long. So I split them into two, each a little under 15,000 words. Submitted them both together to [journal name redacted] which responded with "Oh, lots of research here, but it's 'not law enough' to be published in this law review."

Or at least that's how I interpreted the response.

So I updated the two articles, expanded them a bit, submitted to the ever reliable Alberta Law Review, et voila!

I'm probably going to be doing periodic future instalments whenever I get enough new developments in Canada to warrant that step. Another 3-5 years maybe?
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So the prize goes to Albert Haddock for correctly guessing what part 1 was and I get to stand in the corner with a Dunce Cap for disputing Albert's claim.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Burnaby49 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:36 am So the prize goes to Albert Haddock...

Unfortunately, it's a copy of Rob's book.
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His masterpiece, Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception, hot off the press in 2002. A classic that's as relevant now as it was then.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3104939 ... Deception
"Yes Burnaby49, I do in fact believe all process servers are peace officers. I've good reason to believe so." Robert Menard in his May 28, 2015 video "Process Servers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-J2PhdGs
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Just be thankful you didn't get 2nd prize.*


*Two copies of Rob's book.
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Burnaby49 wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:55 am I’m slow on the uptake, it takes me a while to understand the simplest things.....
I wasn't going to say anything but since you brought it up....
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The Observer wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:50 pm
Burnaby49 wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:28 pm Strong market for his books?
I wasn't sure if James was referring to Menard selling his books or selling his artistic furniture.
I was speaking of the furniture but the point goes either way. Someone who has no reputation isn't going to sell exclusive furniture and someone who has a bad reputation isn't going to sell books. And $100k just isn't enough money to set up a shop from scratch including tools, building, lumber stock and all the extras.
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