Now you can't even arrest a detrimental necromancer...

[Hercule Parrot]

Members of an "anti-establishment cult" who stormed into a court with handcuffs have been found guilty of trying to kidnap a coroner. Mark Christopher, 59, Matthew Martin, 47, Shiza Harper, 45, and Sean Harper, 38, wanted to "shut down" Essex Coroner's Court and abduct senior coroner Lincoln Brookes in April 2023.

They were part of a "conspiracy theory" group who believed they could overrule the judicial system in England and Wales, a trial heard. All four have been found guilty at Chelmsford Crown Court of conspiracy to kidnap and conspiracy to commit false imprisonment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0xj25y20nqo

[The Observer]

Are there necromancers that are not detrimental?

I couldn't glean from the article exactly why this demented posse focused on the coroner. It left the impression that they just arbitrarily selected him as their first victim, despite seemingly having other, and possibly bigger, villians to arrest. And I am not sure what reason could be given for determining that "interfering with the dead" is a case of "fraud."

I guess they just though that the coroner would be far easier to take into custody than other targets.

[SpearGrass]

There's more on this on the Random Freemanesque Babblings II: Back to the Futile thread.

It wasn't just the coroner - having been ejected from the coroner's court, they were arrested on their way to the County Court (the one which had been closed down in fact). There's also a magistrates' court and a Crown Court in Southend, and conceivably that was third on their list.

Christopher Colon Martin, the guru of this group, is a particularly grasping example of the species. Some years ago he was selling MMS (i.e. bleach) as a cure-all - long before Donald Trump discovered it. His acolytes (two sheriffs and a postal inspector) paid a monthly subscription for the privilege, a magic document which renders you immune from legal action costs £330 and you have to pay to join a zoom call with him.

His particular offering is a smorgasbord of pseudo-legal theories - quantum grammar, no contract, no consent, and (its special USP I think) a theory that a post office is capable of ruling the world. Another one is the Cestui Que Vie Act, dead at sea, we were all declared dead in 1661 thing. That is what he was shouting in the coroner's court.

I'm relieved to read that the Coroner whose court they invaded was doing paper inquests - no grieving relatives were in the court, but these people didn't know that.

[The Observer]

Some years ago he was selling MMS (i.e. bleach) as a cure-all - long before Donald Trump discovered it.

Except Trump didn't "discover it." This was where the press took a statment out of context and twisted it into something that Trump never said and had clarified what he meant at that moment. See https://www.wfae.org/politics/2024-04-0 ... t-covid-19

This is why we require that politics that do not relate to the subject at hand be part of a post. I realize this was a passing comment on your part, but given that it relied on untruthful information, it will tend to start a flame war when other people object to it.

As part of honest disclosure, I did not vote for Trump in the prior elections nor do I intend to vote for him in the upcoming election. So let's return the conversation back to detrimental necromancers and not bring up political figures again.

[ArthurWankspittle]

Anna von Ritz Crackers is into Post Masters ruling the world, I think she appointed her husband as one.
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[SpearGrass]

Sentencing now adjourned to 8th November.

[rosy]

Sentenced today - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ym02kj146o

Seven years for Mark Christopher, 30 months for each of the other three.

[AnOwlCalledSage]

I've check Baillii/National Archives and I think that may be the first time that the term Organised Pseudolegal Commercial Arguments has been used in a UK court, so many thanks to our Canadian chums!

(I am aware that Meads v Meads has previously been referenced but OPCA isn't showing up in a basic search)

[John Uskglass]

The BBC TV report at the bottom of the article is worth a watch. Quite lengthy and includes the judges sentencing remarks.

I note that the police were forwarded the correspondence that preceded the attack, and assessed it as a low risk situation. I wonder if they will take a more proactive stance with FMOTL stuff in future?

[SpearGrass]

Judge's full sentencing remarks:

"... documents which were in legal language but made no sense".

The judge describes Christopher as "... intelligent, persuasive, manipulative and dishonest. Your group, of whom you are the self-appointed leader, preys on those who have vulnerabilities, particularly those who are in financial difficulties and whom you are able to persuade to pay you considerable sums of money ..."

Sentence: for Christopher, 7 years imprisonment and permanent restraining order to have no contact with the Chief Coroner and the Coroner whose court was invaded.
For the dupes (who still believe they were in the right), 30 months imprisonment, and the same restraining order.

Forfeiture of items such as handcuffs.

Pity CPS didn't apply for a confiscation order to make Christopher disgorge his ill-gotten gains. They could do it later.

[Albert Haddock]

I've check Baillii/National Archives and I think that may be the first time that the term Organised Pseudolegal Commercial Arguments has been used in a UK court, so many thanks to our Canadian chums!

(I am aware that Meads v Meads has previously been referenced but OPCA isn't showing up in a basic search)

See Salmon v Leeds Crown Court [2021] EWHC 1076 (Admin) at paragraph 41:

Although he did not describe himself as such, some of the Claimant's submissions were reminiscent of the language used by members of the 'Freemen of the Land' movement. Its adherents are part of what Rooke ACJ described in Meads v Meads [2012] ABQB 571 as 'Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument' litigants. His judgment contains a very interesting analysis and debunking of the various spurious legal arguments advanced by Freemen and their ilk in court, where they generally try and argue that the laws which apply to the rest of us do not apply to them.

[Albert Haddock]

For anyone who would prefer to read them, the sentencing remarks can be found here: https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/r-v- ... nd-harper/

[Albert Haddock]

His particular offering is a smorgasbord of pseudo-legal theories - quantum grammar, no contract, no consent, and (its special USP I think) a theory that a post office is capable of ruling the world.

That's a David Wynn Miller thing isn't it?

[John Uskglass]

Article in the Mail giving background to the case.

Inside the bizarre world of 'cult' leader and self-styled judge who claimed he could cure cancer and malaria... but is now behind bars for trying to kidnap a coroner at a council office in Essex

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Essex.html

[YiamCross]

Checking out Mark-kishon Christopher's website I'm particularly tempted by one of his 'Sole Uni Single Units' titled "How To Pay Your Taxes." A bargain at a mere £3,449. I wonder who's running it all now or whether he gets computer time inside to manage his worldwide interests and dispense justice to we, the people.