Guess Snipe's Sentence

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How long will Snipes serve in jail?

1 day to 6 months
4
14%
6 months to 1 year
5
17%
1 year to 18 months
5
17%
18 months to 2 years
5
17%
2 years to 30 months
1
3%
30 months to 3 years
2
7%
Zero
7
24%
 
Total votes: 29

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Guess Snipe's Sentence

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Post by Joey Smith »

14 months
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Post by ElfNinosMom »

I don't think he'll spend a day in prison. I think he will get probation only. That's not included in the poll, though.
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18 months to 2 years.

Only because I think he ought to be made an example of.
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Zero
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Post by webhick »

6 months to a year in watered-down "celebrity" prison. Probably more like 6 months. 3 hours if you consider how often they're letting celebrities out of prison due to overcrowding.
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I'm thinking 3-4 months.

There's too much money at stake to let him go scott-free, but as a first offender (?) who seems to have seen the error of his ways, I doubt he'll get more than 6 months on three misdemeanor charges.

Anyone know what the guidelines would say?
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Post by Demosthenes »

Snipes was convicted on the same counts as Larken Rose, and Larken got a year in prison. Larken had also filed all his past returns and paid off all his back taxes prior to the sentencing.
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Zero.
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Oops. Let me amend that. Larken was sentenced to 15 months in prison for five misdemeanor failure to file counts. The underlying tax obligation was, of course, tiny in comparison to Snipes'.
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Post by Dr. Caligari »

Given the size of Snipes' deficiency, his guideline numbers (no longer mandatory, of course) have to be up in the 24-36 month range at least. Add in the threatening letter to the DOJ attorneys and the phony BOE, I could see a judge hitting him pretty hard.
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Dr. Caligari wrote:Given the size of Snipes' deficiency, his guideline numbers (no longer mandatory, of course) have to be up in the 24-36 month range at least. Add in the threatening letter to the DOJ attorneys and the phony BOE, I could see a judge hitting him pretty hard.
Well, that's more like it.
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Snipes to pay his taxes finally

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http://www.wesh.com/news/15192473/detail.html
"Mr. Snipes has always been committed to doing the right thing, and after this trial is over, he'll make whatever amends are required," Snipes' attorney, Robert Bernhoft, said.
And another tax denier will end up paying far, far, far more in the end (a reference to his future time in prison :wink: ) than if he had just paid his taxes in the first place.
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Post by grixit »

I voted 6 months to a year, but i suspect he'll get the celebutant special and be required to serve it by being locked in his house on weekends.

Otoh, he'll also get the harsh financial restrictions. I wonder how much the tabloids would pay for a picture of him and Kuglin on a date at MacDonalds.
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Re: Snipes to pay his taxes finally

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"Mr. Snipes has always been committed to doing the right thing, and after this trial is over, he'll make whatever amends are required," Snipes' attorney, Robert Bernhoft, said.
Remember, we're professionals. Kids, don't try saying sh*t like this at home.

Bobby, age 9, tried saying something like this without adult supervision, and his head exploded.
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Re: Snipes to pay his taxes finally

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LPC wrote:
"Mr. Snipes has always been committed to doing the right thing, and after this trial is over, he'll make whatever amends are required," Snipes' attorney, Robert Bernhoft, said.
Remember, we're professionals. Kids, don't try saying sh*t like this at home.

Bobby, age 9, tried saying something like this without adult supervision, and his head exploded.
Alas, poor Bobby.

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sentencing guidelines

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Assuming the 2007 version of the Federal Sentencing Guidelines applies, and using a rock-bottom tax loss of $2,500,000 as the basis for the sentence, with no enhancements (such as obstruction, for the letter mentioned by others), the offense level would be 24. With a Criminal History Category I (the lowest category), he would be looking at 51-63 months on the Guidelines. With a 36-month statutory maximum, his Guidelines sentence would be reduced to 36 months. I doubt that the version of the Guidelines would make a difference in any calculation, as the Tax Tables have been pretty consistent since 2002.

In case anyone is surprised that a misdemeanor conviction could yield such a high Guideline sentence, the Guidelines show that, even for the willful failure to file misdemeanor, the Tax Tables in 2T4.1 apply (and result in the significant Guideline sentence mentioned above).

If the tax loss were at least $7,000,000, his Guideline calculation would be at least 63-78 months. Keep in mind that the Court can take into account losses for acquitted counts when calculating total losses for purposes of the Guidelines, if the government proved the acquitted counts' losses by a preponderance of evidence. If all charged years are included, and if the obstruction enhancement applies, the Guidelines could be a good bit higher -- in the 8-10 year range, before reducing them to the statutory maximum. That would be a long way to depart down to give the sort of sentences that some of you are predicting.
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Re: Snipes to pay his taxes finally

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"Mr. Snipes has always been committed to doing the right thing, and after this trial is over, he'll make whatever amends are required," Snipes' attorney, Robert Bernhoft, said.

From the 29 page letter sent to the IRS by Snipes:
It is my sincere belief that there is never a wrong time to do the right thing.
See http://www.thesnipestrial.com/snipes29pp.pdf
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Re: Snipes to pay his taxes finally

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Doktor Avalanche wrote:
LPC wrote:
"Mr. Snipes has always been committed to doing the right thing, and after this trial is over, he'll make whatever amends are required," Snipes' attorney, Robert Bernhoft, said.
Remember, we're professionals. Kids, don't try saying sh*t like this at home.

Bobby, age 9, tried saying something like this without adult supervision, and his head exploded.
Alas, poor Bobby.

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This is *NOT* funny. I was *there*. If Bobby had just filed his tax returns, he'd be alive today.
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Re: Snipes to pay his taxes finally

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LPC wrote: This is *NOT* funny. I was *there*. If Bobby had just filed his tax returns, he'd be alive today.
Well, it was your digital camera I lifted this photo from. :wink:
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