Dogwalker's battle against Title 18

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Re: Dogwalker's battle against Title 18

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Agent Observer wrote:Alot of these nutjobs are obsessed with hatred of the government/country and employ every conspiracy known to man as the reason.
Well ... hated of the government, yes.
Hatred of the country?
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The bumper sticker that reads "I love my country, but I fear my government" kinda sums up their stance nicely.
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The little footnote about information of a highly personal nature sounds like they may have found some porn on DW's computer, sometimes I wonder if just mentioning "we found something but it's not appropriate" is more damaging than just saying what it is.
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Just because something irrelevant to the charges at hand was found on the computer does not immediately imply pornography.

It could have been email between him and his wife, poetry, or grandiose plans to blow up the Vatican -- not necessarily porn.
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Nikki wrote:Just because something irrelevant to the charges at hand was found on the computer does not immediately imply pornography.

It could have been email between him and his wife, poetry, or grandiose plans to blow up the Vatican -- not necessarily porn.
That was kind of my point, that the way it is worded kind of hints at something that may be embarassing when it might not be, or maybeb it is. Suppose it is just his social security number and and bank account PIN, information that is "information of a highly personal nature" but could have just been stated as "personal identity and financial information"....
What I was saying was the way they say it puts the "uh oh" thoughts into the heads of many who read it...and I admit I DID think right away "Porn" but maybe I just have a corrupted mind.
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tracer wrote:
Agent Observer wrote:Alot of these nutjobs are obsessed with hatred of the government/country and employ every conspiracy known to man as the reason.
Well ... hated of the government, yes.
Hatred of the country?
<Jon Stewart> eeeeh, notsomuch </Jon Stewart>

The bumper sticker that reads "I love my country, but I fear my government" kinda sums up their stance nicely.
They love the country they imagine, but hate the reality they see, and really can't stand most of the people who live here.

If their fear was limited to things like illegal wiretaps, Guantanamo Bay, and extraordinary rendition, I would be agreeing with them, but what they fear the most is Social Security, Medicaid, and other social welfare programs funded with taxes.
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Gregg wrote:That was kind of my point, that the way it is worded kind of hints at something that may be embarassing when it might not be, or maybeb it is. Suppose it is just his social security number and and bank account PIN, information that is "information of a highly personal nature" but could have just been stated as "personal identity and financial information"....
What I was saying was the way they say it puts the "uh oh" thoughts into the heads of many who read it...and I admit I DID think right away "Porn" but maybe I just have a corrupted mind.
Maybe I have an uncorrupted mind, but I didn't read it that way.

It looks as though Riley was looking for a full disclosure by the government of everything they seized. The government responded by saying that they don't think they should disclose what they found on the computer in a filing on a public docket because what they found is not relevant to the case and is personal, and they think Riley would not want it made public. I don't see any suggestion that it was porn, because it could be any kind of personal correspondence, or personal writings or diaries, or something else which was obviously not mean to be published.

And if it is porn, so what? If the people involved are of legal age, then no significant laws have been violated and the government would still be right to keep it confidential while providing some vague and indefinite explanation for why they think it should not be disclosed in a public filing. (Referring to it as "personal identity information" would then create an inference in future cases that any description other that "personal identity information" means "porn," so you just can't win when you're trying to avoid negative inferences.)

So I think "information of a highly personal nature" means just that. Something that Riley didn't intend to be public, wouldn't want to be public, and shouldn't be public, and that's all we need to know.
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It's likely just "government speak." I've seen several statutes that actually define "personal information" or "information of a personal nature" or something similar as mundane factoids like one's SSN in combination with an account number or date of birth.
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CaptainKickback wrote:Or the picture of him in a pink tutu, leather-boy vest and studded dog collar while sporting the goth look for freakyboytoy.com.........
You're confusing Danny with Eliot Spitzer.
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CaptainKickback wrote:Or the picture of him in a pink tutu, leather-boy vest and studded dog collar while sporting the goth look for freakyboytoy.com.........
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ErsatzAnatchist wrote:
CaptainKickback wrote:Or the picture of him in a pink tutu, leather-boy vest and studded dog collar while sporting the goth look for freakyboytoy.com.........
Paging Webhick. Paging Webhick.

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  1. Danny won't wear a dog collar. He's the dogwalker.
  2. The pink tutu is only for special occasions. Like when grandma comes to visit.
  3. The leather-boy vest is only Sunday mass.
  4. As for the goth look...how else do you expect him to get that discount on Bludgeons and Wagons?
  5. And lastly, freakyboytoy.com is the only website that lets you trade in the market's newest commodity: sugar daddies.
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From Keith in RI, DW's whining again:

http://www.scribd.com/full/2273744?acce ... w84c11x2ei
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Why try to analyse the manifestations of the mental illnesses of the various players in the Ed: family permanently-locked-up saga?

The only thing I find at all interesting is how rapidly both E&E seem to have totally forgotten about their 4 indicted assistant-hole-diggers, all of whom face more time than their protagonists (thusfar, anyway.)

E&E whine, the moronic 4 whine, they all file idiotic motions and all of it is impervious to rational analysis as all of them are clearly on another planet.
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Danny's father is alive. Remember the video dad and brother Bill made right after Danny's arrest?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8149815024

When Danny refers to "my computer", he talking about the one at his home. The government seized subject to a search warrant, and Danny wants them to produce what they found so he can use it as exculpatory evidence since he can't have the computer itself. It's not an entirely unreasonable request, and if Danny weren't such a dumb shit about working with his court appointed lawyer, he's have full access to that evidence (inlcuding the photo of his bruise) through the lawyer.

Danny has been told he can have witnesses, and that the court will pay for their travel expenses *if* he provides an explanation of what each witness will add to his defense. Danny has yet to do so.

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/riley291.pdf

As for Danny complaining about continuances being forced on him, Danny was the one to ask the court for the last trial delay in January.

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/riley202.pdf
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