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Re: Reference Catalog of Intel on NESARA

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Hi, it's Texino and I would like to address Chem trails.

People see crop dusting where various chemicals are released at nearly ground level and it's a short jump between that and the thought that there might be a way to spread harmful toxins over a large area by doing the same thing at high altitude.

When you look at the make up of vapor or condensation trails left by high flying aircraft you find that they are caused by the warm exhaust gases (mainly CO2 and water) cooling in the frigid air and the water particles becoming ice crystals and forming cloud like tracks across the sky. So what you have are basically clouds in the stratosphere that will be distorted by the upper winds and eventually dissipate. I do not know of any instance where vapor trails have been seen to come down to earth. Therefore, one must ask how any poisons from the so called chem trails are reaching the population?

If you go back to crop dusting, the aircraft are spreading a substance that is heavier than air. The lower they fly, the better the chance that they will place the payload where it is needed. If, a duster were to climb to 500 feet the coverage would be spread further but the concentration would be reduced. It the plane goes to 1000 feet the chemicals would most likely disperse so widely as not to affect anyone.

The point then is for chem trails to be successful, the chemical would need to be highly concentrated and heavy enough to fall into the lower atmosphere to be part of the air we breathe. If you apply this logic, chem trails do not seem a particularly viable way of affecting a population. Historically, chemical warfare required that a gas be inhaled or a substance contact the skin of the victim. This required the formulation of agents which would hover close to the ground and remain in the target area. From this one should infer that high altitude release of a harmful agent would be almost impossible to control and therefore would affect the general population at random including those whose machinations were behind the plot.

Of course I or anyone else, for that matter, can theorize all we want on this subject and still have no effect on the person who has convinced him or her self that chem-trails are a fact. I feel that logic, fact finding as well as a little experience in the field, give my opinion some weight over those whose main comeback is to accuse me of being part of a conspiracy.

Just to add to the "There is nothing new under the sun" file, I recently came across an article about earth tilting, which had been discussed in the distant past, and how when the earth tilted for cleansing purposes, current continents would disappear while previous continents would rise (think Atlantis) I'll have to find it again because it was very much like some of PHBs stuff except it was written a few hundred years prior. Surprising what a bit of research can dig up. That is why I always mistrust someone who tells me they have "The Truth"

Enough for now. I will try and find a reference for the prior earth tilting article and post it.

Thank you, Tomas
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texino wrote:Hi, it's Texino and I would like to address Chem trails.

People see crop dusting where various chemicals are released at nearly ground level and it's a short jump between that and the thought that there might be a way to spread harmful toxins over a large area by doing the same thing at high altitude.

When you look at the make up of vapor or condensation trails left by high flying aircraft you find that they are caused by the warm exhaust gases (mainly CO2 and water) cooling in the frigid air and the water particles becoming ice crystals and forming cloud like tracks across the sky. So what you have are basically clouds in the stratosphere that will be distorted by the upper winds and eventually dissipate. I do not know of any instance where vapor trails have been seen to come down to earth. Therefore, one must ask how any poisons from the so called chem trails are reaching the population?

To begin, the point of chemical trials of terrestrial aircraft is for the purpose of weather modification, population and behavior control as well as military testing of chemical compounds on the general public and its health impacts.

On February 20, 1999, strange "Contrails" were reported over Long Island, NY by 'concerned citizens' who also took photos. These photos reveal the characteristic "X" mark seen in almost all cases of chemtrails. Earlier this year, reports by Ken Welch have been posted on various sites on the Internet. His reports are titled Contrail Spraying of Cities is Real Part 1 , Part II, and Part III These articles chronicle Ken's apprehension and dismay at the discovery that the United States government was brazenly spraying the skies of southern Texas on April 9, 1999 with Chemtrails. Ken has also posted E-mails at his web site that were sent to him in May '99 of reports of sprayings over South Carolina and Indiana . In June, a report from Florida said that sprayings had been going on for weeks over the Ft Lauderdale and Jacksonville areas, including military bases.

It is being reported that people with average or below average immunity are experiencing pneumonia-like respiratory symptoms, while people with stronger immunity are only experiencing slight discomfort for a day or two or no symptoms at all. Some people have gotten very ill and the symptoms seem to keep returning after a short period of improvement. It's possible that some of these sprayings might contain special bioengineered pathogens designed to affect only certain racial groups.

Radio talk show host Jeff Rense has offered the idea that these sprayed pathogens might be part of a Binary weapon system. In other words, a second substance might be required (aerial spraying or substances added to the water supply for example) to bring out the virulent phase of the pathogen, but of course this is only speculation. Rick Malinowski's long and detailed article also suggest the notion of a 2 or 3 part piggy back element to the chemtrail sprayings. My own suspicions are that these sprayings are intended for multiple purposes including low level population reduction (see NWO Population Control), mind control and/or tracking, and to foster weakness and apathy among the general population in anticipation of the New World Order takeover agenda which will likely include the imposition of martial law (a sickly population is a lot more controllable and compliant than a healthy, vigorous one).

William Thomas
William Thomas was the first reporter to attract national attention to the chemtrails issue. He has been interviewed many times on the Art Bell Radio show to discuss the chemtrails story and has many excellent articles and Photos posted at his own web site as well as other locations including-Jeff Rense's Sightings on the Radio . Thomas has concluded that these sprayings are genocidal in nature and are intended to reduce or weaken the general population. In a November '99 interview with Art Bell, Thomas also voiced the idea that there might be a mind control element to the most recent spraying, since many people are reporting mental confusion and depression following recent sprayings. Thomas has reminded radio listeners that the government has had a long history of exposing the public to biological pathogens without their knowledge or consent.
Thomas has also reported that spraying samples have been analyzed and have revealed that many deadly and toxic pathogens have been found including Mycoplasma Fermetens Incognitus (the SAME bioengineered pathogen that Dr Garth Nicholson had discovered in about 45% of the veterans who came down with Gulf War Illness). Thomas found that Mycoplasma, however, was only ONE pathogen among a group of highly toxic biohazard substances analyzed from the chemtrail residues.

Why?
The evidence is obvious and plentiful that these sprayings have been taking place almost daily since the Fall of '98 and many people have gotten sick and undoubtedly some have died from the effects of these pathogen/toxin sprayings, but the $64 question is WHY ?


Some writers have wistfully speculated that the government is trying to vaccinate us against a coming plague of bio terrorist origin. Most people would like to believe that, but the evidence is too strong in the opposite direction. Of course, sprayings might have different intentions for different sectors of the population: Possible population reduction for the weak and immune compromised; possible vaccine protection intended for certain ethnic groups; and possible ID tracking. It's hard to say. Only insiders know the real story, or more probably know some parts of the Real Story.

What most Americans don't realize is that the upper echelons of the United States government is no longer a government "of , by, and for " the people (See the New World Order). The United States government-as with all other major governments of the world-is under the total domination and control of the Illuminati (architects of the so-called New World Order). The Illuminati's plan to reduce the global population by 4 billion people before the year 2050 was laid out in the Global 2000 report assembled by the Carter administration. in the late 70's.

It should be obvious-that in order to REDUCE the world's population from its present size of six billion down to 2 billion (even over a fifty year span) would require that the majority of people now living would have to be exterminated in some way. The amazing thing about the Illuminati is that they place all their ghastly plans right out in the open for everyone to see, if people would only look and read what they are saying.

Debunkers
A genocidal operation of this size and scope would require the Illuminati controllers to promote contravening propaganda in the opposite direction in order to limit or defuse political agitation, possible retaliatory action, and to quell the concerns of the average American who might stumble upon the chemtrail story. It's Standard Operating Procedure for the Illuminati. For example, when Senate committee hearings took place a few years ago (early '90's) on re-examining the Kennedy assassination, just coincidentally an author (and CIA asset) by the name of Gerald Posner, who had recently published a book titled "Case Closed", suddenly appears on the national scene. In his book, Posner claimed unequivocally that Oswald was the lone assassin, that there was no conspiracy involving others, and that the Warren Commission was correct in its original findings. Reviews of his opinions and that of his book received front page coverage throughout mainstream media. Frontline produced a 2 hour "documentary" on Posner's claims which failed to offer opposing views by other Kennedy assassination investigators/authors to refute or take issue with Posner's position.

In 1997, on the 50 year anniversary of the Roswell, New Mexico UFO Crash of 1947, the government offered up a high ranking Air Force officer to make an utter fool of himself on national TV (CNN) by stating that the so called "bodies" of aliens beings-which were recovered from the Roswell crash-were "in fact" really only test dummies that the Air Force had sent aloft to see how they would fare under crash conditions. This orchestrated and staged press conference had already stated that the dummies were deployed in 1954. When one reporter asked this Air Force officer what the connection was between a 1954 test of crash dummies and the 1947 Roswell UFO crash, the stunned officer could only mumble that apparently "time compression" had "taken place". It was a Golden Moment for those of us who rail against the unending stream of lies and unmitigated deception fostered upon the American public by the (corportate/Illuminati controlled) mainstream media and government spokesmen.

[Update January 2002]
The party line from chemtrail debunkers has changed over the past 3 years. Early on, chemtrail disinformation artists wanted the public to think that chemtrails were really just ordinary contrails that were persisting longer than usual due to changing atmospheric conditions and similar tripe. Later, when the persistent contrail theme had worn too thin, debukers needed to create some sort of logical excuse for chemtrails, so they began to peddle the aerial immunization against 'terrorists' biologicals or solar wind "protection" gambit.

Lately, the current unofficial party line seems to be
1. protection of the ozone layer,
2. secret military radar blanketing technology,
3. aerosol 'vaccinations' of some sort and
4. some vague reference to 'protection from aliens' (??? you got me).

Debunkers will usually offer themselves as experts or authorities on chemtrails and will always give you a 80-90% dose of real info layered in with their hidden propaganda message. Another trait I've noticed from debunkers is the the sheer volume of their presentation coupled with a lot of technical jargon, scientific looking graphs and pictures to bolster the image of scientific validity and depth of investigation. But if you read their 'reports' carefully enough, you can spot the party line-loud and clear. Lastly, debunkers will always yell "fraud" the loudest for those articles and authors who hit closest to home where truth is concerned. A good place to start honing your discernment skills is with the highly circulated and often referenced "Chemtrails Report". It is a text book example of the current state of the art in disinformaiton.


If you go back to crop dusting, the aircraft are spreading a substance that is heavier than air. The lower they fly, the better the chance that they will place the payload where it is needed. If, a duster were to climb to 500 feet the coverage would be spread further but the concentration would be reduced. It the plane goes to 1000 feet the chemicals would most likely disperse so widely as not to affect anyone.
Heavy compounds like you suggested in crop dusting are highly noticeable and will only affect a small area. Something like that would not be used in covert operations on civilian population. As stated above in texico's response after a certain altitude chemical dispersion would be far longer and wider than normal crop dusting, which would certainly be the point if one were to want to poison entire cities without people being aware. Analysis of the compounds ejected from military craft in such various cases include Aluminum Oxide, Barium Oxide, and red blood cells with allows for theoretical parasitic viruses to latch on to the human immune system efficiently causing the immune system to be compromised and causes brain functioning at 12-14 cycles per second. A brain functioning at this cyclical level is agitated and therefore cannot be perceptive of any cycle not within the same frequency especially if that brain is artificially stabilized to that frequency.

Alpha waves are electromagnetic oscillations in the frequency range of 8–12 Hz arising from synchronous and coherent (in phase / constructive) electrical activity of thalamic pacemaker cells in the human brain. They are also called Berger's wave in memory of the founder of EEG (Brazier 1970).

Where beta represented arousal, alpha represents non-arousal. Alpha brainwaves are slower, and higher in amplitude. Their frequency ranges from 9 to 14 cycles per second. A person who has completed a task and sits down to rest is often in an alpha state. A person who takes time out to reflect or meditate is usually in an alpha state. A person who takes a break from a conference and walks in the garden is often in an alpha state.


The point then is for chem trails to be successful, the chemical would need to be highly concentrated and heavy enough to fall into the lower atmosphere to be part of the air we breathe. If you apply this logic, chem trails do not seem a particularly viable way of affecting a population. Historically, chemical warfare required that a gas be inhaled or a substance contact the skin of the victim. This required the formulation of agents which would hover close to the ground and remain in the target area. From this one should infer that high altitude release of a harmful agent would be almost impossible to control and therefore would affect the general population at random including those whose machinations were behind the plot.
Saying that for chem-trials to be successful they would have to be "concentrated" and "heavy"
shows an obvious lack of knowledge in fundamental chemistry and math. By your inane logic LSD should not affect a persons mind or body because it is weighed in Micrograms which makes it neither heavy nor concentrated. A virus such as influenza is also neither heavy nor concentrated so the application of the "concentrated"/"heavy" does not apply.

Historically wars were fought with swords and shields. This however does not apply today so to apply logic of chemical warfare from WW1 to today's warfare or tactics does not apply.

Those who would want to remain unaffected by such a plot would have created an antidote or vaccine that would not allow cross contamination of the virus between vaccinated and not vaccinated.

Of course I or anyone else, for that matter, can theorize all we want on this subject and still have no effect on the person who has convinced him or her self that chem-trails are a fact. I feel that logic, fact finding as well as a little experience in the field, give my opinion some weight over those whose main comeback is to accuse me of being part of a conspiracy.
Personally you seem to have not done ANY fact finding on the subject, and any experience in the field would have given you better insight about general science and math.

Who accused you of being a part of the conspiracy? You don't seem like you have enough knowledge to work with such sophisticated and technical people.

Just to add to the "There is nothing new under the sun" file, I recently came across an article about earth tilting, which had been discussed in the distant past, and how when the earth tilted for cleansing purposes, current continents would disappear while previous continents would rise (think Atlantis) I'll have to find it again because it was very much like some of PHBs stuff except it was written a few hundred years prior. Surprising what a bit of research can dig up. That is why I always mistrust someone who tells me they have "The Truth"
The above has nothing to do with any topic of discussion.
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1 - All the "x-marks" and other fancy topographicap photographs of alleged chemtrails have been taken by flatlanders. They are deliberately ignorant of the fact that airplanes fly at many different altitudes, separated by thousands of feet. These strange-appearing combinations of contrails only occur when many layers of them are forced into a two-dimensional perspective.

2 - Unless there are ultra-super-secret government aircraft operating in the commercial air space dispersing these chemicals, there isn't a single commercial jet with the capability to do so. They don't have the holding tanks or dispensing equipment. Even if they did, there are so many people watching them every second they're on the ground that the conspiracy to keep this a secret would be unsustainable.

3 - If there were any intention of airborn dispersal of chemicals to act on people, it would not be done from tens of thousands of feet of altitude. The vagaries of the winds would prevent any effective application of the chemicals on a target audience. Even during the Viet Nam war, when US forces were spraying Agent Orange defolant, it was done from just a few hundred feet above the tree canopy.

Chemtrails are not the product of any secret government program. They are the product of the over-active imaginations of conspiracy theorists who are long on paranoia and short on both facts and logic.
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I only have 2 things to say about Chemtrails

1. Consider the sources.

2. I heard a person on the radio claim that "when we were kids there were no contrails." This person was younger than me, and I have a very distinct memory of watching contrails when I was 4-5 years old. My father had taken us to watch the launch of a "Strato-Lab" balloon the fall before, not long after Sputnik, and I got the space bug. I would watch the contrails and think they were jets going up into space. Where I lived was near an Air Force base (SAC) and we had lots of them. People have the right to their own opinions, but their own facts.
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texino wrote:Just to add to the "There is nothing new under the sun" file, I recently came across an article about earth tilting, which had been discussed in the distant past, and how when the earth tilted for cleansing purposes, current continents would disappear while previous continents would rise (think Atlantis) I'll have to find it again because it was very much like some of PHBs stuff except it was written a few hundred years prior. Surprising what a bit of research can dig up. That is why I always mistrust someone who tells me they have "The Truth"
The "north magnetic pole" isn't necessarily north nor is it necessarily near the pole. I has just happened to be during the last few thousand years (although it's always moving). Over the years it's moved around quite a bit, as evidenced by the magnetic fields of ignious rocks. Some people who don't understand that the magnetic pole isn't the same as the actual pole read about this and figured that the earth "tilted" or "flipped," which isn't what happened. This has become a common "urban myth" with Bellringer claiming that when the earth "flips" it would rotate the other way and cause a 5-mile high wave to completely cleanse the land surface. Yeah right. Anyway, this has been about to happen "soon" for a couple decades, so I don't think we have to rush out and get on a spaceship right now...
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Nikki wrote:1 - All the "x-marks" and other fancy topographicap photographs of alleged chemtrails have been taken by flatlanders. They are deliberately ignorant of the fact that airplanes fly at many different altitudes, separated by thousands of feet. These strange-appearing combinations of contrails only occur when many layers of them are forced into a two-dimensional perspective.
Spelled topographic wrong. Saying "flatlanders" are deliberately ignorant is in itself deliberately ignorant since you are:

1. Prejudice seeing as you assume they mistake differing elevations of contrails and call them chem-trials.

2. Think strange appearing combination of contrails only occur "When many layers of them are forced into a 2d perspective".

Facts of Contrails and why they do not = Chem-trials
1.Condensation from engine exhaust
- The main products of hydrocarbon fuel combustion are carbon dioxide and water vapor. At high altitudes this water vapour emerges into a cold environment, and the local increase in water vapour can push the water content of the air past saturation point. The vapour then condenses into tiny water droplets and/or deposits into ice. These millions of tiny water droplets and/or ice crystals form the vapour trail or contrails. The energy drop (and therefore, time and distance) the vapour needs to condense accounts for the contrail forming some way behind the aircraft's engines. The majority of the cloud content comes from water trapped in the surrounding air.[citation needed] At high altitudes, supercooled water vapour requires a trigger to encourage deposition or condensation. The exhaust particles in the aircraft's exhaust act as this trigger, causing the trapped vapour to rapidly turn to ice crystals. Exhaust vapour trails or contrails usually occur above 8000 metres (26,000 feet). where the temperature is below -40°C (-40°F).[1]

2.Condensation from decreases in pressure
- The wings of an aircraft cause a fall in air pressure in the vicinity of the wing. This brings with it a fall in temperature. The combined effect of the fall in pressure and temperature can cause water to condense out of the air and form trailing vortices. This effect is more common on humid days. Trailing vortices can sometimes be seen behind the wing flaps of airliners during takeoff and landing, during landing of the Space shuttle, and on the upper wing surface of military jet aircraft performing high-energy maneuvers. Additionally, the area around the intake of a turbo-fan engine will be at a lower pressure than the surrounding air, and may result in a condensation fog forming in the intake during high-thrust settings.

These sorts of vapour trails contrast with the other major type of contrails which are caused by the combustion of jet fuel. Contrails produced from jet engine exhaust are seen at high altitude, directly behind each engine. In contrast, vapour trails caused by a drop in air pressure are usually seen at low altitude where the ambient humidity is higher, and they trail behind the wingtips and wing flaps rather than behind the jet engines.

3.Vapour trails or contrails and climate
- Vapour trails or contrails, by affecting the Earth's radiation balance, act as a radiative forcing. Studies have found that vapour trails or contrails trap outgoing longwave radiation emitted by the Earth and atmosphere (positive radiative forcing) at a greater rate than they reflect incoming solar radiation (negative radiative forcing). Therefore, the overall net effect of contrails is positive, i.e. a warming.[2] However, the effect varies daily and annually, and overall the magnitude of the forcing is not well known: globally (for 1992 air traffic conditions), values range from 3.5 mW/m² to 17 mW/m². Other studies have determined that night flights are mostly responsible for the warming effect: while accounting for only 25% of daily air traffic, they contribute 60 to 80% of contrail radiative forcing. Similarly, winter flights account for only 22% of annual air traffic, but contribute half of the annual mean radiative forcing.[3]

4. Distrails
- Short for dissipation trail. Where an aircraft passes through a cloud, it can clear a path through it; this is known as a distrail. Because the plane's contrail is not yet visible (contrails usually form above 26,000 feet, depending on the temperature and other factors) the distrail looks like a tunnel through the cloud if the cloud is very thin.[8]

In short -
Chem-trials = Purposeful dumping of foreign material into the public atmosphere by terrestrial aircraft.

Con-trails are defined as above. It is pointless to argue that Contrail = Chem=trial because it does not.


2 - Unless there are ultra-super-secret government aircraft operating in the commercial air space dispersing these chemicals, there isn't a single commercial jet with the capability to do so. They don't have the holding tanks or dispensing equipment. Even if they did, there are so many people watching them every second they're on the ground that the conspiracy to keep this a secret would be unsustainable.
You certainly lack the creativity to realize how a plot such as population control would be executed. Obviously those personnel helping to create a toxic environment would have most likely been tricked into doing such things because they would assume that they are helping people instead of damaging their friends and family. More than likely commercial aircraft would not be used in such exercises but aircraft that certainly resembles usual commercial aircraft. Most likely many remote aircraft would be used utilizing:

Agriculture chemical spray valve
Document Type and Number:
United States Patent 4156439

Abstract:
A low operating force valve which handles solutions having highly abrasive wettable powders. The valve is a low pressure butterfly-type, 3-way, two-position, valve; including a recirculating path in the closed position which is opened by a convex-shaped disc carried on a stem which rotates on the main valve shaft in conjunction with the two butterfly halves.

The above is a low tech example of a commercial spray valve and below is examples of more recent tech examples of the same thing.

Thermal inkjets

Most consumer inkjet printers (Lexmark, Hewlett-Packard, and Canon) use print cartridges with a series of tiny electrically heated chambers constructed by photolithography. To produce an image, the printer runs a pulse of current through the heating elements causing a steam explosion in the chamber to form a bubble, which propels a droplet of ink onto the paper (hence Canon's tradename of Bubblejet for its inkjets). The ink's surface tension as well as the condensation and thus contraction of the vapour bubble, pulls a further charge of ink into the chamber through a narrow channel attached to an ink reservoir.

The ink used is known as aqueous (i.e. water-based inks using pigments or dyes) and the print head is generally cheaper to produce than other inkjet technologies. The principle was discovered by Canon engineer Ichiro Endo in August 1977.

Note that thermal inkjets have no relation to thermal printers, which produce images by heating thermal paper, as seen on older fax machines, cash register, ATM receipt, and lottery ticket printers.

Certain Epson printers use special Durabrite Ultra ink which is a type of thermal ink.

In continuous ink jet technology, a high-pressure pump directs liquid ink from a reservoir through a gunbody and a microscopic nozzle, creating a continuous stream of ink droplets via the Plateau-Rayleigh instability. A piezoelectric crystal creates an acoustic wave as it vibrates within the gunbody and causes the stream of liquid to break into droplets at regular intervals – 64,000 to 165,000 drops per second may be achieved. The ink droplets are subjected to an electrostatic field created by a charging electrode as they form, the field varies according to the degree of drop deflection desired. This results in a controlled, variable electrostatic charge on each droplet. Charged droplets are separated by one or more uncharged “guard droplets” to minimize electrostatic repulsion between neighbouring droplets.


3 - If there were any intention of airborn dispersal of chemicals to act on people, it would not be done from tens of thousands of feet of altitude. The vagaries of the winds would prevent any effective application of the chemicals on a target audience. Even during the Viet Nam war, when US forces were spraying Agent Orange defolant, it was done from just a few hundred feet above the tree canopy.

Chemtrails are not the product of any secret government program. They are the product of the over-active imaginations of conspiracy theorists who are long on paranoia and short on both facts and logic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPqCMIuEk4

A TV news report from Germany has confirmed that the German Military is manipulating the climate in Germany. As a result scientists have filed a lawsuit against the government for climate manipulation. ...


The video concludes, "We can state with a 97% certainty that we have on our hands chemical trails (chemtrails) comprised by fine dust containing polymers and metals... The purpose of chemtrails, which are well documented over the United State and other parts of the world, according to researchers, is to manipulate the weather.
http://www.rense.com/general79/barium.htm

Karsten Brandt, German meteorologist states, "The Federal Army is Manipulating the Meteorological maps." ... Mr. Brandt in the interview, "I was surprised that this artificial cloud was so wide-spread. The radar images are stunning considering the needed tons of dispersed elements - although, the federal army claims that only small amounts of material were propagated. The military heads claim that the substances used are not harmful." ...


The forefront of these operations in the United States appears to be the US Navy, as detailed in "Death in the Air: Globalism, Terrorism & Toxic Warfare," by Dr. Len Horowitz. An alternative theory to direct toxification of the atmosphere to explain Chemtrails, is that a new weapon related to controlling weather events is being deployed. By creating droughts and thus famines, large populations could be easily controlled or eliminated. Other countries could be easily controlled and brought to their knees by a global power if the weather could be controlled or altered.

Johannes Remmel, German Green party representative states, "The government must provide explanations to the unsuspecting population." While radar is tracking suspicious aircraft, the Germany Military then uses counterfeit satellite imagery to hide their operations.

... In Germany, weather manipulation is prohibited, and I would likewise believe that it is prohibited in the U.S. as well.

Since Chemtrails are so widespread, I would rule out the idea that this is just military performing operations to disrupt radar signals as part of some sort of drill.

Many government watchdogs claim global depopulation, the targeted reduction of the world's population by two-thirds, is secretly the reason behind chemtrail spraying. ...

For a while I was confused between chemtrails, and contrails. Contrails are the exhaust of an air craft, it leaves a trail in the sky and the trail rapidly dissipates. With chemtrails, they initially look identical to contrails, but rather than the trail dissipating, the trail expands and then starts to look like a cloud. Over the Silicon Valley where I live, I daily witness these chemtrails starting and stopping from airplanes. In other words, the plane has control over the chemicals it is releasing. Also, I have noticed on some days the area is filled with a gray hazy muck, and the mountains almost disappear. This is highly unusual especially when just one day before, the mountains were totally clear.

Part of the undercurrents, at least in the United States, is the concept being marketing through radio, television and schools, that the earth is overpopulated. The idea of overpopulation, as the cause of our problems, was something that I had believed in for a time.

I believed in that idea until I realized the abundance of nature. Just seeing the amount of food produced by one healthy tree, and the millions of acres of unused land in central California, helped me understand Nature's abundance. ...


Humans are grossly misusing earth's delicate resources, and thus we have created an experience of lack and deprivation. The lack we experience is not natural, but a reflection of our disconnection from the source of life. ...

Every action, thought, and feeling has a cause and an effect. We all need to work together to bring more awareness to the dreaded reality - that our government seems bent on making this planet a military war zone. ..

Weather modification is not a secret. Anyone denying such events are completely unaware of what governments are doing or are capable of and any advice given by such people shows others how asinine that thought process of constant denial without research proves ignorance and a lazy personality.
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I'm calling a maroon alert.
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texino wrote:I'm calling a maroon alert.
Actually, it should gbe a lavender and chartruse alert.

illustratorvox really should look at the appearance of his (her's it's ?) posts.

moderator should consider invoking the FLUSH ruile, unless the audience's consensus is that the posts are moderately amusing.

unfortunately, illustriousbox's posts don't even approach the creativity of some of his predecessor candidates for villiage idiot
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illustratorvox wrote:Information concerning the following is helpful:
2. Freemasonry
Did you know the following were Freemasons? (And yes, these have been verified through genuine historical sources.)

1. George Washington
2. Thomas Jefferson
3. Samuel Adams
4. Paul Revere
5. John Hancock
6. Benjamin Franklin

Does this mean the entire concept of the U.S.A. is an Illuminati plot?!?!?!?
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Nikki wrote:
texino wrote:I'm calling a maroon alert.
Actually, it should gbe a lavender and chartruse alert.

illustratorvox really should look at the appearance of his (her's it's ?) posts.

moderator should consider invoking the FLUSH ruile, unless the audience's consensus is that the posts are moderately amusing.

unfortunately, illustriousbox's posts don't even approach the creativity of some of his predecessor candidates for villiage idiot
Right you are, they were not only hard to read, the optical interaction gave me a headache, so I changed them to (which I chose arbitrarily, it wasn't my choice but fate that it's kind of maroon-like).

There are lots of people out there who will believe in massive conspiracies, and Chemtrails are one that's been popular for quite a while. I remember hearing about them killing off 2/3s of our population in a couple of years - 10 years ago. Wonder how that worked out...
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Re: Reference Catalog of Intel on NESARA

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Trippy wrote:
illustratorvox wrote:Information concerning the following is helpful:
2. Freemasonry
Did you know the following were Freemasons? (And yes, these have been verified through genuine historical sources.)

1. George Washington
2. Thomas Jefferson
3. Samuel Adams
4. Paul Revere
5. John Hancock
6. Benjamin Franklin

Does this mean the entire concept of the U.S.A. is an Illuminati plot?!?!?!?
According to one of the links, so were Hitler, Stalin and Mao. No doubt you remember the picture of Mao driving around in the little car wearing a fez...
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Re: Reference Catalog of Intel on NESARA

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(Texino-that's me- lied to a big shot Free Mason and lived)

I was having my house appraised. When the appraiser arrived, I was standing outside and could not help but notice that his Lincoln Towne Car was bedecked with all manner of Masonic badges.
He did not shake my hand. Everything was fine until we went into my studio where I had placed an ornate official Freemason Fez over a large body condenser mic as a dust cover. The guy said "Are you a Mason?" For some reason, I could not just say no, I'm not. Instead I went into a complex explanation about how that fez belonged to my wife's dead uncle and had great sentimental value an was I supposed to turn it in or something? The appraiser didn't say anything,
but he did low ball my house causing me to have to get another appraisal from someone on the "Light side." I'm pretty certain that this guy tried to kill me by staring at me with Mason-a-vision and had I not been wearing my tin foil t-shirt I would not be here to tell the tale! I did get rid of that fez (I had got in a yard sale) and replaced it with a "Tall Cedars of Lebanon" pyramid style fez, which makes a much better mic cover anyway. Don't know much about the plot of the Cedars or their Illuminati connection. Maybe someone will clue me in.
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