SubVet RULES !

[Nikki]

Over at LoserHeads, another inane thread started yesterday.

Acolyte danama.1 posted

The local IRS office here in Augusta, GA has called me in for a meeting This coming Monday (July 20, 2009) and told me to bring a witness and a lawyer or someone to represent me if I'd like.

They "requested" all kinds of info they want me to give them. Is there anyone in the Augusta, GA area who would go with me?

Handling this stuff by mail is much less stressful than having to meet with them in person. Thanks.

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To which SubVet, always a cornucopia of valuable advice replied

First things first. What do they want to meet about?

You have a right to know that and to be prepared.

Bring whatever papers you care to and put them in a box with a lid on it.

You may want to bring paperwork but you want unqualified immunity from prosecution if you decide to show them anything. You have that right as you have not been charged with anything.

Personally, I would also tell them that I demand to be compensated for my time and you expect payment in the form of say one ounce of gold for every hour of your time or fraction thereof. You also want compensation for your travel time to and from the meeting.

They have no right to demand you attend any meeting, they can only ask. I'd also make sure it was convenient for you, should you agree to attend a meeting. Make it one evening after you're done with work and have enjoyed a dinner.

Remember that you are an American, endowed by your CREATOR with UNALIENABLE rights and you have no written contract requiring performance with these goons. Stand on your authority as a free and sovereign MAN/WOMAN on the land.

It could be fun...

That should work

[notorial dissent]

That bulkhead must have been awfully hard, and if past efforts are any indication, he smacked his head with great regularlity.

[The Operative]

First things first. What do they want to meet about?

I'm fairly certain that the IRS told danama why they want to meet. I would guess that the IRS wants to know why danama believes he/she did not have income.

You have a right to know that and to be prepared.

Yes, and if danama listens to the IRS and follows instructions, he/she may not charged an insane amount in penalties and interest. However, if danama follows your meaning of prepared, it will probably go very badly for danama.

Bring whatever papers you care to and put them in a box with a lid on it.

Not really important, but I guess it would prevent anything from blowing away in the wind.

You may want to bring paperwork but you want unqualified immunity from prosecution if you decide to show them anything. You have that right as you have not been charged with anything.

Yeah, right. The IRS doesn't have the ability to give you immunity from prosecution. However, the IRS does have the ability to give to the Department of Justice any proof they may have of danama evading taxes. BTW, the IRS already has enough of that information from the W-2s provided by danama's employer and the CtC returns filed by danama.

Personally, I would also tell them that I demand to be compensated for my time and you expect payment in the form of say one ounce of gold for every hour of your time or fraction thereof. You also want compensation for your travel time to and from the meeting.

danama, when you tell the IRS person this, make sure to watch their face. The first expression will probably be disbelief because the person will think that they did not hear you correctly. That should be followed by "Excuse me? What did you say again?" When you repeat it, keep watching the IRS person's face. At this point, you should either see an eye roll , or maybe a laugh.

They have no right to demand you attend any meeting, they can only ask. I'd also make sure it was convenient for you, should you agree to attend a meeting. Make it one evening after you're done with work and have enjoyed a dinner.

The IRS is probably attempting to give danama an opportunity to correct a return before being assessed a frivolous filing penalty. If you want to put it off or ignore it, don't be surprised if you start receiving various correspondence from the IRS in your mailbox.

Remember that you are an American, endowed by your CREATOR with UNALIENABLE rights and you have no written contract requiring performance with these goons. Stand on your authority as a free and sovereign MAN/WOMAN on the land.

Danama, if you want to follow SubVet's advice, that is your choice. However, if you do, I recommend that you obtain a good piece of cardboard approximately 18" x 18". With a sharpie or other marker, write the following: "Will work for food!" You are going to need it.

[Thule]

It could be fun...

True...

[Famspear]

Well, surprise, surprise. The Pontificating Petermeister has had to step in -- in a new thread entitled The Forum will be down for awhile...:

Folks, this forum is going to be locked for awhile, until I can figure out a way of keeping it from being more a source of confusion and misunderstanding than the source of inspiration and organized, productive effort toward spreading the truth about the tax and the law that it is intended to be. Updates on this will be posted at http://www.losthorizons.com/Newsletter.htm .
-Pete

http://www.losthorizons.com/phpBB/viewt ... b000#19295

(Saturday, July 18, 2009)

[Famspear]

This is poetic justice. Has Hendrickson ever had to do this before?

I wonder if user SubVet is going to be banned.

[Nikki]

Folks, this forum is going to be locked for awhile, until I can figure out a way of keeping it from being more a source of confusion and misunderstanding than the source of inspiration and organized, productive effort toward spreading the truth about the tax and the law that it is intended to be. Updates on this will be posted at http://www.losthorizons.com/Newsletter.htm .
-Pete

Translation:

Too many CtC Educated Filers are now bitching about multiple $5,000 penalties, wage garnishments, and federal liens.

Also, the threads about futile letter responses to IRS notices have become to numerous.

Finally, there have been too many references to bogus sites such as FamilyGuardian.

Folks, all of this is cutting into my book sales, so it has to stop.

From now on, you will only be permitted to read the Gospel according to Pete as printed in indelible KoolAide.

[Lambkin]

I bet this has something to do with Pete being so busy losing in court that he can't police the forum adequately, while his wayward lieutenants on the forum are making up new rules of engagement that contravene the Gospels of Pete.

He may have also struck upon the ideal strategy for becoming irrelevant, since the regular forum addicts will quickly find a new forum. I'd love to see where they pop up next, or which one of them aspires to the guru's mantle.

[cynicalflyer]

I bet this has something to do with Pete being so busy losing in court that he can't police the forum adequately, while his wayward lieutenants on the forum are making up new rules of engagement that contravene the Gospels of Pete.

True, when you couple Richardf614's recent rant with this one by SubVet, a lot of the "senior" people there are going off the Pete "reservation".

And while Weston and individual others have gotten tossed out of the airlock by Darth Hendrickson, this is I believe a first...

[Famspear]

This is poetic justice. Has Hendrickson ever had to do this before?

I wonder if user SubVet is going to be banned.

Actually, I meant to say user "Richardf614." That's the one that's been going hyper-delusional.

[LPC]

Weird. It's like he put the whole forum in "time out."

[grixit]

When an entire nation seems to be straying from the faith, the church may have to resort to imposing an interdict.

[Thule]

Interesting development. Must be a downer for Blowhard, seeing that even his most trusted minions start thinking for themselves as soon as he's gone. Not smart thoughts, mind you, but at least it's independent thinking.

I have a feeling that Blowhard thought he could leave LH under the supervision of his loyal owls while he took care of his own mounting problems. After all, his designated birdies should have enough knowledge of CtC to answer most questions. Instead, things get out of hand and Richard starts his own religion.

Things are really falling apart in Hendrickstan.

[notorial dissent]

When an entire nation seems to be straying from the faith, the church may have to resort to imposing an interdict.

The last time I checked they called that England, and they start ignoring you all together.

The problem with interdicts, is they aren’t good for much when the ones you’ve interdicted don’t want to come back and play.

Thule, I really wouldn’t classify it as “thinking for themselves”, but rather as having adopted a new set of delusions since the old ones seem to be collapsing in on themselves.

[Judge Roy Bean]

The "Ohhhh sh*t" light is one of those non-standard indicators not everyone gets to see.

[Imalawman]

The "Ohhhh sh*t" light is one of those non-standard indicators not everyone gets to see.

I do wonder if Pete has had that "oh sh*t" moment. Its easy to talk a big game, but when he's trying to sleep at night one wonders if he ponders sleeping next to a big hairy felon for 5-10 years. I don't think that anything will ever result in a "come to jesus" moment for him - he's too far gone for that. But that doesn't mean he can't be scared sh*tless right now. Inquiring minds want to know.

[Thule]

Thule, I really wouldn’t classify it as “thinking for themselves”, but rather as having adopted a new set of delusions since the old ones seem to be collapsing in on themselves.[/color]

I stand corrected, "thinking" is not a word that should be used in this situation. Although Richard seems to be spouting some genuine gibberish.

Still, the speed with which people abandonded CtC and started drinking from other fountains of batsh*t is surprising.

[notorial dissent]

Well, when the current batsh*t fountain runs dry the true addict must quickly find a new source, or else perish for lack of sure fire protection, why they might have to start thinking for themselves, and that would just be too painful I suspect.

Actually, having read some of Richard's other maunderings, he is not bright enough to have come up with that nonsense on his own, so I suspect, like the rest of his brethren, he found it on the internet somewhere and adopted as his own true source of wisdom.

[Gregg]

Well, when the current batsh*t fountain runs dry the true addict must quickly find a new source, or else perish for lack of sure fire protection, why they might have to start thinking for themselves, and that would just be too painful I suspect.

Actually, having read some of Richard's other maunderings, he is not bright enough to have come up with that nonsense on his own, so I suspect, like the rest of his brethren, he found it on the internet somewhere and adopted as his own true source of wisdom.

but, but, but, Richard was a Federal DOJ Tax Prosecutor!

[jkeeb]

I don't think he really was a DOJ attorney. I'm thinking he was much higher than that, such as a Private Attorney General.