The Real LB Bork Thread

[wserra]

Bork has picked up a groupie. Unfortunately, the guy could use a little more reason and a little less rant.

Still, he got Bork's attention:

I joined the pacinlawscam blog, and he deleted the feature. See, this psycho does not like the confrontation.

So the guy apparently doesn't like opposing opinions on his site. Who else do we know like that?

[Maltese Falcon]

Hey wserra,
I'm the author of the blog you posted. By the way, thanks for discovering it.
I read the older LB Bork thread here and I noticed that you beat me to the punch on that "Nationality Correction Form."

The blog itself isn't exactly the most serious thing on Earth. It's primary purpose is to house my CL trolls, because I love to troll. At the time, LB paid someone to spam up certain /pol/ sections, so I countered some of his postings, and followed the leads on Google, and compiled it into a blog.

Still, he got Bork's attention:

I joined the pacinlawscam blog, and he deleted the feature. See, this psycho does not like the confrontation.

So the guy apparently doesn't like opposing opinions on his site. Who else do we know like that?

You know, I was laughing really hard when I read that comment on his nmg thread. He had every opportunity to argue his position, and he didn't. He just did what he always does in debates: make dumb quips, ad hominems, etc.. So I closed the commenting feature on older posts, save everyone some time. He can still comment on the new ones.

[Dr. Caligari]

Welcome to Quatloos, Maltese Falcon.

[wserra]

Well, welcome to Quatloos, MF.

Success to crime.

[buck09]

Hey wserra,
I'm the author of the blog you posted. By the way, thanks for discovering it.

Hey - since you got involved with this nut at one point in time or another, was it though a local connection (i.e. WI and surrounding Midwestern area) or does he have a larger national presence?

Better yet, do you have a copy of his book? I do. I'm going to hang onto it for when the US atty's office or state AG needs it

[Maltese Falcon]

Hey wserra,
I'm the author of the blog you posted. By the way, thanks for discovering it.

Hey - since you got involved with this nut at one point in time or another, was it though a local connection (i.e. WI and surrounding Midwestern area) or does he have a larger national presence?

Better yet, do you have a copy of his book? I do. I'm going to hang onto it for when the US atty's office or state AG needs it

Nah, I live in MA, and I first heard of LB Bork and Pacinlaw on the Boston community politics section on Craigslist. It seems as if he's trying to go prime time by hiring spammers, but as long as we're here, he'll always be a national joke.

I don't own the The Red Amendment, but I have read the Promo - and man, that was awful. I can't believe that it's second ed. and it still has typos. How hard is it to run a spell check these days? Also, footnotes are supposed to contain citations and clarifications, not extra venom. Finally, that font. Let's just say that Blade Runner font does not make me think of a scary socialist future. To me, it simply screams 'failed sci-fi writer.'

That promo has me convinced that LB has never stepped foot in an accredited college.

So how's the rest of the book? Please, do tell in full detail Come to think of it, how did you get that book?

What do you think would happen if you were to infringe his copyrights and digitally redistribute the book? It's not like he could sue you, because he doesn't believe in these "14th Amendment courts". And even if he did take you, you could just say "Your Honor, this man is running an sovereign citizens scam. Here's the proof." So even if you got burned, the IRS would still pay him a visit.

Regardless, the IRS should pay him a visit.

[buck09]

Nah, I live in MA, and I first heard of LB Bork and Pacinlaw on the Boston community politics section on Craigslist. It seems as if he's trying to go prime time by hiring spammers, but as long as we're here, he'll always be a national joke.

Interesting, searching The Googles shows him spamming a bunch of community forums. My favorite response:

I'm reposting this until I get an answer from you, "spammer." You need help, whether you know it or not.

I have been reading up on your posts, visiting pacinlaw, notmygovernment, islandmakers, etc..

I deal with people like you on a daily basis. They all have the same problem: child support. You haven't been paying it, and you don't know where to turn. You fall for the dumbest tax defiance theories imaginable.

Listen, you care about your kids, right? Well, I can help you.

Call me, you know my number. We can settle things together, with dignity.

I don't own the The Red Amendment, but I have read the Promo - and man, that was awful. I can't believe that it's second ed. and it still has typos. How hard is it to run a spell check these days?

I can only read it in small portions. Grammar as bad as his gives me nosebleeds.

Also, footnotes are supposed to contain citations and clarifications, not extra venom. Finally, that font. Let's just say that Blade Runner font does not make me think of a scary socialist future. To me, it simply screams 'failed sci-fi writer.'

While I have no hard evidence, Bork's profile matches those of people who write erotic Sci-Fi fan fiction.

That promo has me convinced that LB has never stepped foot in an accredited college.

I suspect that his high school diploma is as hard to come by as Obama's Kenyan birth certificate.

So how's the rest of the book? Please, do tell in full detail Come to think of it, how did you get that book?

The rest of the book is just as awful. He didn't write a large chunk of it - there's a lot of copy and paste work. You can tell when that happens because the writing becomes lucid and grammatically correct, regardless if he's actually quoting another source or not. Matrix references abound. There is no logical thought progression between chapters, sections, etc.

To quote the movie Billy Madison:

Mr. Bork, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

As to how I got the book... Well, I'm a deep cover operative within the Sovereign Idiot movement, on loan to the UN by way of George Soro's paramilitary operations. I can tell you more, but only if you're on a one-way black helicopter trip to a FEMA detention camp.

What do you think would happen if you were to infringe his copyrights and digitally redistribute the book? It's not like he could sue you, because he doesn't believe in these "14th Amendment courts". And even if he did take you, you could just say "Your Honor, this man is running an sovereign citizens scam. Here's the proof." So even if you got burned, the IRS would still pay him a visit.

Thought about it, as I mentioned earlier in the thread. I don't think the IRS is the least bit interested in him. The guy lives in a sh*thole western Wisconsin hicktown and bums overnighters off his marks when he travels. I'm still hoping to bump into him in person at some point. I'm a pretty obnoxious bastard in person (if you're a con men, otherwise I'm just a politely quiet midwesterner), and would love to piss in his cornflakes if given the opportunity.

[Maltese Falcon]

By the way, buck09, I actually wrote that response (it's towards the bottom). I'm glad to know that some of my trollin' hasn't been wasted.

You should check out some of the other sovereign citizen groups and mailing lists his hired spammer crashed. Here's one of them: Eastern-Assembly-Union. Note that he is using his real name and is not very smart when it comes to internet anonymity. Note that the last message was August 4th, 2010, and a few messages above talks about corruption in the group.

From this, LB Bork seems to have a really competitive spirit, and wants to absorb other sovereigns like an amoeba. I think he wants to be the Mr. Sovereign Guru.

I can only read it in small portions. Grammar as bad as his gives me nosebleeds.

Isn't that a sign that you have been successfully mind controlled ?

Don't feel too bad. My eyes glaze over and I can't focus when I come across bad grammar or stupid beliefs. I don't know how you Quatloosians do it, but my hats off to you.

The rest of the book is just as awful. He didn't write a large chunk of it - there's a lot of copy and paste work. You can tell when that happens because the writing becomes lucid and grammatically correct, regardless if he's actually quoting another source or not. Matrix references abound. There is no logical thought progression between chapters, sections, etc.

I hate to bug you again about The Red Amendment, but what kind of Matrix references are they? Just quotes or thesis grade analyses?

Also, a lol for that classic Billy Madison quote.

Thought about it, as I mentioned earlier in the thread. I don't think the IRS is the least bit interested in him. The guy lives in a sh*thole western Wisconsin hicktown and bums overnighters off his marks when he travels. I'm still hoping to bump into him in person at some point. I'm a pretty obnoxious bastard in person (if you're a con men, otherwise I'm just a politely quiet midwesterner), and would love to piss in his cornflakes if given the opportunity.

As much as I don't want to give up hope, I'm gonna have to side with you on that.

[wserra]

Bork on how the DOJ seal (of all things) "illustrates the Federal Government ruling the Union under fascism in the name of 'peace'".

Coffee cups down first.

[Judge Roy Bean]

I love maroons who take Latin out of context! Especially maroons who don't have a command of grammar and punctuation.

The qui pro domina justitia sequitur phrase does not mean what Bork's over-simplified Latin-to-English translator tells his feeble brain.

Latin was the form of all legal proceedings way-back-when, and loosely speaking, the phrase relates to the Attorney General acting on behalf of the Queen (our lady of justice).

The rest of it wasn't worth reading.

[The Observer]

Might want to check out this link from DOJ explaining the history of the seal and phrase

[The Operative]

Might want to check out this link from DOJ explaining the history of the seal and phrase

That is a well researched and educated explanation which, according to Bork, automatically makes it wrong.

[The Jurist]

I see you Marxist monkey types have not retained lives as of yet.

Are you people ever going to answer my question in regard to private law? I am thinking not... The ad hominem attacks are much more fun, right? What a priceless waste of life.

Oh, I see that East Coast psycho boy joined the Quattards group. Nice! Could make some comments here on his activity and in-the-box mentality, but reserve such at this time.

Thanks for sending all the people to the PAC sites...
We are getting loads of hits... Had about 400 uniques today.
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p.s. I have noted that PAC generally beats the Quattards site on Google searches. Must have something to do with the popularity of the web portal configuration.

Oh, and the Latin of the DOJ Seal was translated by someone that has studied the language for 40 years. The rest of the content in the paper is obvious if you do not have your head in the dark cavern between your legs (like you schooled idgits do). And, nice touch on the reference from the DOJ site.... Like the government is trusted to tell the truth and not be deceptive. LOL

[The Jurist]

I could not care less about what he has to say on his personal forum. He is simply too chicken-s**t to seriously debate any of his theories on an open forum such as Quatloos. Every time he does stop by here, he only provides further evidence that: 1) he won't answer a direct question; 2) he cannot coherently state his theories; or 3) he has a problem with English comprehension.

You people are delusional... I have better things to do than play on the Quattard Forum that specializes in ad hominem attacks on people. Anyway, I have not seen any intelligent discussion of law on this forum (not that I am here all that often).

And Interesting...
1) You guys first
2) Really? See 3 below
3) Pots calling the kettle black

The rest of the post by "The Operative" is not worth addressing due to his (?)* delusional state of mind.

Night all!
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* Nice that everyone here pretty much hides behind monikers. The typical CyberPunk way.
Dan Evans is the only member I have noted that does not... At least someone is a man here.

[Thule]

I see you Marxist monkeys have not retained lives as of yet.

You should stop hanging out with your poo-flinging friends, they seem to influence your "thinking".

Are you people ever going to answer my question in regard to private law? I am thinking not... The ad hominem attacks are much more fun, right? What a priceless waste of life.

Let's see. In two fairly short posts you call people "Quattards", "Marxist monkeys", "delusional", "psycho boy", "idgits" and more. And you whine about ad hominem.

What was you question about private law again? Something like "Explain why there is no private law system"? See, you ask nonsensical questions, you really can't expect an answer. If you can come up with some idea on how this invisible private law system works, we can explain how wrong you are.

BTW, you still haven't answered my question on how there is no colony of pink elephants on the far side of the moon.

Oh, I see that East Coast psycho boy joined the Quattards group. Nice! Could make some comments here on his activity and in-the-box mentality, but reserve such at this time.

If you refer to Maltese Falcon, I think it speaks a lot for his integrety when you call him psycho boy. Guess he struck a nerve, hey?

Thanks for sending all the people to the PAC sites...
We are getting loads of hits... Had about 400 uniques today.

Quality beats quantity.

p.s. I have noted that PAC generally beats the Quattards site on Google searches. Must have something to do with the popularity of the web portal configuration.

Well, I did a little search on Alexa. Quatloos is nr 217201 in terms of traffic. Now, that is not stellar numbers. But way better than pacinlaw.org at 2665326. But like I said, quality beats quantity. After all, TMZ is #409.

Oh, and the Latin of the DOJ Seal was translated by someone that has studied the language for 40 years. The rest of the content in the paper is obvious if you do not have your head in the dark cavern between your legs (like you schooled idgits do).

Suuuuuure they have.

And, nice touch on the reference from the DOJ site.... Like the government is trusted to tell the truth and not be deceptive. LOL

I always find this amusing. Say that a super-powerful cabal is in control of the entire world, and desperatly wants to stay secret. Why do they leave signs such as this all over the place?

But I am really sorry that you think we are demeaning you. Let me make that up for you with a nice picture;

[Gregg]

Gregg is my real name, "Jurist", and I think a fair number of people know my full name is Gregg Evans (no relation to Dan)

And you still make less sense than a retarded monkey marching band.

[wserra]

Nice that everyone here pretty much hides behind monikers. The typical CyberPunk way.
Dan Evans is the only member I have noted that does not... At least someone is a man here.

Well, now, Lenny (or, speaking of hiding, is it "Brett"? Are you in Kieler, WI, or somewhere in IL?), you know who I am, and I make no secret of it. For example,

This is you, right...

http://www.iromlaw.com/Bio/WesleySerra.asp

And Wes, assumption is the mother of all defamation tort actions.

BTW, Lenny, that post certainly looks like a threat to sue me for defamation. You made it almost six months ago. Nothing has happened since.

And this one:

Maybe you and your friends here can give me a determination on this:
...
I have not made a Bar complaint in some time. Any merit? I and others think that there is.

That certainly looks like a threat to make a disciplinary complaint against me. Five months ago. I even gave you the address to which to send it. Nothing.

[The Jurist]

Cute, and how apropos. I thought most of you here believed in the Easter Bunny.
You guys sure do believe in everything else you have been told.

[The Jurist]

That certainly looks like a threat to make a disciplinary complaint against me. Five months ago. I even gave you the address to which to send it. Nothing.

Morning, Wes. You are up early hitting the hobby (although stamp collecting may be much more rewarding).

And, believe it or not... You "people (used loosely)" are not at the top of my list. Sorry, but I find you and yours here as more of an annoyance. My time is best spent leading people out of deception and into the ways of God. In regard, this last PAC E Letter has a strong message. You may want to view:

http://www.pacgroups.us/eletter/post/NL_0211.php

[The Jurist]

Gregg is my real name, "Jurist", and I think a fair number of people know my full name is Gregg Evans (no relation to Dan)

And you still make less sense than a retarded monkey marching band.

Hey, Greg.... I really thought you would be at church this morning ;~)

Sorry I do not make much sense... Must be the high IQ I maintain; and also being in the top 1% in mechanical aptitude in the United States. Sorry if you have trouble keeping up.

On that note, there is no Easter Bunny... Sorry to say.

And, retarded monkey marching band... LOL. The one on cymbals would be a hoot!

Will not be here for awhile... Better things to do you know.
Keep my thread here a goin'... Great for "business (for lack of better words).
It is almost up to the numbers of the UCC/Redemption thread. Thanks Wes!
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p.s. Forgot to tell Wes that my name is not "Brett"... That is disinfo form that idgit Chris Hansen of Family Guardian (idiot). There is a Brett Farve that used to play for the Packers in Wisconsin. What a "tool" he turned out to be. Also, I have no idea where that "Len" thing came from either. More weirdness.