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Ed Brown is a judicial canary. As long as he is entitled to a lawyer, we can be sure that the rest of us will continue to be as well.
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I notice lawyers aren't in that list.....Famspear wrote:Methodists?wserra wrote:Hell, I've represented rustlers, cut throats, murderers.....bank robbers, ass-kickers, sh*t-kickers, Methodists.....
Methodists? Heavens man, have you no standards at all???!!!?
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All at once, or in different cases?wserra wrote:Hell, I've represented rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, sh*t-kickers, Methodists and the occasional terrorist.
I'm imagining a very weird class action suit.
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I would have been annoyed by the suggestion that I would be considered unfit to practice law if I voluntarily continued to represent my client and did NOT move to withdraw.Pottapaug1938 wrote:he assured me that neither he nor any member of the bar would take it as an indication of unfitness to practice law if I was compelled, by the court, to continue to represent this woman.
After having represented one particularly obnoxious client in a very drawn-out and acrimonious court proceeding, I had reason to talk to the judge later about a bar association matter, and I apologized to him for my role in the matter. His response was "Oh, that's just business." I'd like to think most other lawyers and judges understand the same thing.
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Actually, I was thinking of scenes from Blazing Saddles.LPC wrote:All at once, or in different cases?wserra wrote:Hell, I've represented rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, sh*t-kickers, Methodists and the occasional terrorist.
I'm imagining a very weird class action suit.
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Well, I'm sure Wes would point out that he doesn't have rapists on that list.Prof wrote:Actually, I was thinking of scenes from Blazing Saddles.
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I didn't know you defended my cousins.wserra wrote: nitwits, halfwits, dimwits,
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Not all that weird. Hedley Lamarr never paid them (or even reimbursed the "shitload of dimes" for the tollbooth).LPC wrote:I'm imagining a very weird class action suit.
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Did you bring enough for everyone? I didn't know there would be so many... BANG! Boy is he strict!Nikki wrote:No one got the "gum" reference
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Wes, are you sure you haven't been to one of my parties?wserra wrote: Hell, I've represented rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, sh*t-kickers, Methodists and the occasional terrorist. Hasn't affected my reputation.
Wait a second. That didn't come out exactly the way I intended.
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It looks like he may have defended one of them afterwards, though...Cathulhu wrote:Wes, are you sure you haven't been to one of my parties?wserra wrote: Hell, I've represented rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, sh*t-kickers, Methodists and the occasional terrorist. Hasn't affected my reputation.
Wait a second. That didn't come out exactly the way I intended.
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... or my old Boy Scout troop.CaptainKickback wrote:Sounds more like elements of my mother's side of the family........Cathulhu wrote:Wes, are you sure you haven't been to one of my parties?wserra wrote: Hell, I've represented rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, sh*t-kickers, Methodists and the occasional terrorist. Hasn't affected my reputation.
Wait a second. That didn't come out exactly the way I intended.
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Just the average people in line at the IRS public contact office -- which is significantly better the average Motor Vehicles office since it doesn't include any teenagers.rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, sh*t-kickers, Methodists and the occasional terrorist
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So Wes, if you found yourself in the position to represent Ed: family moron, would you start looking for an excuse?
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Understand, I haven't done criminal work at all for 12+ years. Would I have looked for an excuse back when federal criminal defense was almost all I did? No. Towards the end of the 20+ years I spent doing criminal law, personally I would have viewed it as a challenge, just as I did the WTC bombing trial. Professionally - well, read Gideon's Trumpet.Gregg wrote:So Wes, if you found yourself in the position to represent Ed: family moron, would you start looking for an excuse?
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I'm not surprised by that answer. If I were in the position, I might look at it that way. My biggest problem would be that I just don't suffer fools well. I can go along with you if you have an idea I don't agree with, not problem, but when you insist on stupid I don't have the patience.
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It's good you got out before you got caught.wserra wrote:Understand, I haven't done criminal work at all for 12+ years.
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What makes you think he didn't get caught? He ended up here, right?webhick wrote:It's good you got out before you got caught.
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Elaine's brief has now been filed by her court-appointed attorney. Despite the hurdles that need to be overcome, I think that the court-appointed attorney did a good job in her defense - much better than either Ed or Elaine could have done.
There are a number of interesting facts that are detailed.
There are a number of interesting facts that are detailed.