A Not So Innocent Spouse (Jo Delia Hovind)

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From: kwinkler@drdino.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:06:13 -0400

Subject: Re: DrDino.com Blog

(excerpts)

I apologize if you feel your questions are not fully answered.

Currently, CSE has chosen to limit correspondence regarding the legal case to
drdino.com/legal and e-mail, so as to not distract from the creation-gospel
message on our Web site.

I hope you will understand.

At the current time, there are many unknown variables in the case that
up-to-date facts are hard to come by.

Unfortunately, this causes a delay in what can be published or announced.

Please know that CSE strives for transparency in what it knows.

God Quest, Inc. is an independent para-church ministry, formed as a non-profit
corporation in the state of Florida.

Under the leadership of Eric Hovind, God Quest has acquired all operations of Creation Science Evangelism and continues to successfully operate it as a ministry.

I am unfamiliar with Eric Hovind's housing status.

Kyle Winkler
Creation Science Evangelism
kwinkler@drdino.com
P: 850-479-3466 x107
F: 850-479-8562
http://www.drdino.com

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Transparency?

Ha Ha Ha!

Eric has tried to put on airs of legitimacy.

Is it working?
Is it only a facade?

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darling wrote: From Kent Hovind:

"I still maintain my innocence and will fight this injustice until it is overturned or I die. Over 40 lawyers have looked at my case and agree that I broke no laws but am indeed a political prisoner. The government violated over 20 laws to put me here. Most of them are explained in document #365"
http://www.2peter3.com/court_documents.html
This reminds me of a Mighty Mouse episode from around 1980 in which Mighty Mouse snorts a crushed flower, which gives him enhanced powers. Rev. Donald Wildmon, of the American Family Association (so-called), whined loud and long about how the makers of this new version of an old cartoon were thus promoting cocaine use. Rev. Wildmon said that he had consulted with an attorney, who had confirmed that the substance in question was indeed cocaine.

Basic logical fallacies aside, I am trying to picture how it must have been for Rev. Wildmon to go around promoting this silliness, so wrapped up in his certainty that he was correct, and proving that he had no clue as to just how idiotic he came off to people outside his AFA daisy chain.
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Speaking of transparency, I wonder if Dr. Dino has posted a list of those 40 lawyers, their biographies, and their testimony about what they looked at and how it supported the alleged conclusion that Dr. Dino was "not guilty"?

I wonder if one of them is Jerold W. Barringer, his current mouthpiece before the U.S. Tax Court in for his personal income tax case which is pending trial!

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Does anyone else see the irony of him quoting the advise of 40 lawyers in a case he is defending pro se?
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Kent doesn't tell you that every one of those 'over 40 lawyers' continued by saying "and as soon as your retainer check clears, I would be delighted to represent you"
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Kent Hovind wrote:Over 40 lawyers have looked at my case and agree that I broke no laws but am indeed a political prisoner.
I wonder what Hovind found wrong with the first 39 lawyers that led him to consult the 40th?

Or, putting it differently, if Hovind didn't trust the opinions of 39 of 40 lawyers, why should we trust the opinions of 40 of the 40?

(Even assuming that the 40+ lawyers actually exist, of course.)
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Here's a different question: why is it so difficult for Hovind's followers to contact him when he's always checking his knee-mail?
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grixit wrote:
Here's a different question: why is it so difficult
for Hovind's followers to contact him when he's
always checking his knee-mail?
Seriously speaking, some may be having trouble contacting him because they address their correspondence to Dr. Hovind!

> Dr. Hovind has arrived at a new facility.
> His new mailing address is:
>
>> Kent Hovind #06452-017
>> FPC PO Box 9000
>> Berlin, NH 03570
>> USA
>
> When sending mail to Dr. Hovind, please refer
> to the guidelines listed on the Contact Dr. Hovind page.

There it says:

> You may not write to him using the title of
> “Dr.”
>
> They will return the mail to you if it is
> addressed in this manner.

That was before the move to the new cage. Maybe his new keepers will humor him by allowing mail to "Dr. Hovind" to get through to him.

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LPC wrote:
Kent Hovind wrote:Over 40 lawyers have looked at my case and agree that I broke no laws but am indeed a political prisoner. If they all agreed that you broke no laws and were such a tragic case, then why didn't they offer to help you? Maybe because you couldn't find anyone to give you the time of day???
I wonder what Hovind found wrong with the first 39 lawyers that led him to consult the 40th?
He didn't like being laughed at, repeatedly???
Or, putting it differently, if Hovind didn't trust the opinions of 39 of 40 lawyers, why should we trust the opinions of 40 of the 40?
That's all the higher he can count? It has some magical significance to him?? More likely it was a number he picked out of his hat.
(Even assuming that the 40+ lawyers actually exist, of course.)
I think that is assuming an awful lot.
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notorial dissent wrote:
LPC wrote:Or, putting it differently, if Hovind didn't trust the opinions of 39 of 40 lawyers, why should we trust the opinions of 40 of the 40?
That's all the higher he can count? It has some magical significance to him??
The number 40 does appear often in the Bible, and may have some cultural or mystical significance to both the authors of the Bible and Hovind (assuming he actually knows anything about the Bible).

For example, the great flood (that Noah survived in the ark) was the result of rain for forty days and forty nights. Moses and the Israelites spend 40 years in the desert after leaving Egypt and before arriving at the promised land. Jesus spent 40 days in the wilderness after his baptism by John the Baptist.
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Thanks, that was kind of where I was heading and didn't quite want to go there, but that was what occurred to me when I read that.

Although I am more inclined to believe that he just pulled a number out of the air that sounded good to bolster his story, just like he has with all his other arguments and excuses, it suited his needs at the time.
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LPC wrote:For example, the great flood (that Noah survived in the ark) was the result of rain for forty days and forty nights. Moses and the Israelites spend 40 years in the desert after leaving Egypt and before arriving at the promised land. Jesus spent 40 days in the wilderness after his baptism by John the Baptist.
Which one of those is most like the "40 lawyers". In his case, probably "40 years in the desert".
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Had the Court been able to give those things proper consideration, Dr. Dino would have been given the "40 years" instead of just 10!

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Don't forget 40 lashes was a common punishmnet.
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UNITED STATES TAX COURT

Dkt. No. 1362-10

JO DELIA HOVIND,
Petitioner,

v.

COMMISSIONER OF INTERNAL REVENUE,
Respondent .

DECISION

Pursuant to the opinion of the Court. filed
October 3, 2012, and incorporating herein the
facts recited in respondent's computation as
the findings of the Court, it is

ORDERED AND DECIDED:

That there are deficiencies, penalties, and
additions to tax due from petitioner as follows:

Additions to Tax/Penalties
I.R.C. SS
Year Deficiency 6651(a)(1) 6663(a)

1998 $ 51,314.00 $13,212.00 $ 38,485.50
1999 $ 92,741.00 $23,185.25 $ 69,555.75
2000 $ 93,541.00 $23,385.25 $ 70,155.75
2001 $ 72,720.00 $18,180.00 $ 54,540.00
2002 $ 72,579.00 $18,144.75 $ 54,434.25
2003 $ 64,486.00 $16,121.00 $ 48,364.50
2004 $130,104.00 $32,526.00 $ 97,578.00
2005 $145,365.00 $36,341.25 $109,023.75
2006 $ 69,917.00 $17,479.25 $ 52,437.75

December 18, 2012

(Signed) L. Paige Marvel
Judge

Entered: 2012

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