How does that go?The owner of a gun shop, who was an alternate on the U. S. Olympic Shooting Team is trying to help me look into a tryout for the U. S. Olympic Shooting Team myself, as I've always enjoyed the hobby but not had time for it since I missed Sniper School by one shot at Ft. Dix in 1988.
So, basically, he enlisted but never made it through basic training. I'm not sure if I buy the story about why he was put out, or the story about how he was told to tell people he had never been in. I do know that he would have been enlisted in an "official capacity" since you take an oath before you get sent to basic.Someone asked if I was ever in the military. I've never been in the military in an official capacity. I've only received some weapons training, some overnight stuff in cold conditions and marching instruction. I developed a leak in my synovila membrane (right hip) at Ft. Dix in January, 1988, during basic training marching exercises in heavy boots some 20 miles in, and they sent me home the last week of Basic after a stay in the hospital. The 1st Sgt. instructed me that I was to tell people that I had never been in the Army because of the leak that ended my effort to become a 68 Bravo (helicopter engine mechanic) because you're not officially "in" until you finish Basic Training. My duties would have been to go down a rope from a hovering helicopter to see if anything could be salvaged from a shot down helicopter during wartime. They said I could try again in two years, but the romance all just went away after the first run through. There is not much more to say on the matter.
Gene's a bit younger than me, and I'm 44. So he would have been within enlistment age in 1988.CaptainKickback wrote:How old is Gene. If he tried joining in 1988 at age 18 (an estimate), it would mean he is now 36 or 37. If he is only 36 or 37, he sure looks like Hell. If he is a decade or two older, then his Army tale is yet another lie. Curious.
Once you take the oath at the AFEES, you're "in". If for some reason you get bounced out of basic, your discharge is either general (under honorable conditions), or other than honorable.ElfNinosMom wrote:So, basically, he enlisted but never made it through basic training. I'm not sure if I buy the story about why he was put out, or the story about how he was told to tell people he had never been in. I do know that he would have been enlisted in an "official capacity" since you take an oath before you get sent to basic.Someone asked if I was ever in the military. I've never been in the military in an official capacity. I've only received some weapons training, some overnight stuff in cold conditions and marching instruction. I developed a leak in my synovila membrane (right hip) at Ft. Dix in January, 1988, during basic training marching exercises in heavy boots some 20 miles in, and they sent me home the last week of Basic after a stay in the hospital. The 1st Sgt. instructed me that I was to tell people that I had never been in the Army because of the leak that ended my effort to become a 68 Bravo (helicopter engine mechanic) because you're not officially "in" until you finish Basic Training. My duties would have been to go down a rope from a hovering helicopter to see if anything could be salvaged from a shot down helicopter during wartime. They said I could try again in two years, but the romance all just went away after the first run through. There is not much more to say on the matter.
What do the Army vets here think?
Once you stick your right paw in the air and swear the oath of enlistment, you're officially in, you are under the authority of the UCMJ,. Lie #1.Someone asked if I was ever in the military. I've never been in the military in an official capacity.
Sounds like he got cycled out of recruit training.I've only received some weapons training, some overnight stuff in cold conditions and marching instruction.
If true, he should be in a wheelchair. Lie #2.I developed a leak in my synovila membrane (right hip) at Ft. Dix in January, 1988, during basic training marching exercises in heavy boots some 20 miles in, and they sent me home the last week of Basic after a stay in the hospital.
Lie #3.The 1st Sgt. instructed me that I was to tell people that I had never been in the Army because of the leak that ended my effort to become a 68 Bravo (helicopter engine mechanic) because you're not officially "in" until you finish Basic Training.
No, he would've been (at worst) a fobbit turning a wrench, "in the rear with the beer and the gear." No fast-roping into war zones or anything like that. Lie #4.My duties would have been to go down a rope from a hovering helicopter to see if anything could be salvaged from a shot down helicopter during wartime.
The injury described is permanently disqualifying. Lie #5.They said I could try again in two years, but the romance all just went away after the first run through.
Aside from saying that he's a lying gobshite, of course.There is not much more to say on the matter.
Because the Navy's Rules of Engagement go like this:Paul wrote:As ex-navy, I express no opinion on Gene's army "experience." I always thought the other services were a little flakey. I mean, if you have to be in, what could be better than holing up in an aircraft carrier, surrounded by steel, with a bunch of escort ships to keep unfriendlies away, where you can eat 3 hot meals a day, sleep out of the rain, and send the officers off to get shot at in the planes you fix? The only downside is that when they retire the plane that was brand new when you first hit the fleet (F-14) and decommission the carrier you spent the most time on (Kennedy), you start to feel like a relic.
On the other hand, you could have been in the Air Force flying B-52s that were built before you were born.Paul wrote:As ex-navy, I express no opinion on Gene's army "experience." I always thought the other services were a little flakey. I mean, if you have to be in, what could be better than holing up in an aircraft carrier, surrounded by steel, with a bunch of escort ships to keep unfriendlies away, where you can eat 3 hot meals a day, sleep out of the rain, and send the officers off to get shot at in the planes you fix? The only downside is that when they retire the plane that was brand new when you first hit the fleet (F-14) and decommission the carrier you spent the most time on (Kennedy), you start to feel like a relic.
They may have been originally built before he was born, but they have been "re-built" many times after that.On the other hand, you could have been in the Air Force flying B-52s that were built before you were born.
The loudest thing I ever heard was an E-major chord blasted through a wall of 200-watt Fender amps courtesy of Ted Nugent at the Hollywood Sportatoruim circa 1978.CaptainKickback wrote: My dad said the loudest thing he ever heard was 2 B-52s screaming down the runway behind a KC135 tanker (707 frame) with water injection.
